Immigration Detention Centres in Green Constituencies

The average stay in an IRC is 1-2 weeks. No-one is in one for years or months.

Of course it doesn't
But if you give all the easier work to the private sector you gradually decimate the nhs...its not rocket science...

It depends. If they're a risk to the public they should be detained for a short period before removal. If they've served their sentence and are not a risk but are liable to be removed they sounds be released on a tag. Not locked up for months or years after serving a sentence.

To your second point - I was responding to the PP who swerved from talking about immigration detention to talking about asylum applicants in housing. But fwiw people can be detained while awaiting the outcome of an appeal (ie when they are still having their status determined) they can also have fresh grounds while detained so it's not correct to suggest everyone is liable to removal and appeal rights exhausted.

I've had a look at the Reform healthcare policy and whilst it does have increasing private sector involvement- absolutely nowhere does it state getting rid of the NHS.

"Reform UK's health policycenters on increasing private sector involvement in the NHS to reduce wait times, promising to eliminate NHS waiting lists within two years. Key proposals include giving patients vouchers for private treatment if they cannot see a GP within 3 days or a consultant within 3 weeks, while providing 20% tax relief on private healthcare insurance. "

Source: BBC

It's not a threat; it's a promise.

It could be done by having for example the subsistence payment having to be paid in person at specific locations. Or temporary work permits restricted to certain locations. Or accommodation (non detention) being at certain locations. Or the threat that if they are found outside certain registered locations then they could be placed in detention centres etc etc.
So I think that there are plenty of ways it could work.

It could be done by having for example the subsistence payment having to be paid in person at specific locations. Or temporary work permits restricted to certain locations. Or accommodation (non detention) being at certain locations. Or the threat that if they are found outside certain registered locations then they could be placed in detention centres etc etc.
So I think that there are plenty of ways it could work.

I'm not a Green voter but I wouldn't really have a problem with more migrants in my area. Faster processing and then they can work legally and contribute.

The problem would be keeping them in Green areas - how would Reform constituencies stop them from going there to work, live, etc?

If I said no to Detention centres, do you think Farage would listen?

It's not a threat; it's a promise.

Leaving ECHR

It is illegal to use threats as a canvassing ploy, and I presume that is what is intended here.

Ok they can’t be detained, are the greens happy to have non detained asylum seekers funnelled to green voting areas? I’m not a reform voter, I just find it interesting how hysterical greens have been about this.

I don’t understand why they don’t just say “no to detention centres, yes to migrants in our areas”.

Its only right that Green areas get what they vote for

Ah yes, the Green Party are famously pro detention centres. And Reform don’t like them at all..

If areas get what they vote for, can Green areas keep the human rights act, and we’ll just have it scrapped from Reform areas?

Reform areas should be private healthcare only, no SEND provision, no workforce born abroad, no local taxes for the wealthy, mass-reduction of Benefits, reduction of Social Care …

Sadly, people who are in favour of removing human rights generally assume that only other people's rights will be affected.

“Since 1980, the Court has ruled against the UK in only 13 removal cases, indicating that such stops are rare. The Human Rights Act 1998 requires UK courts to "take into account" these rights”

So 13 cases in 45 years … not sure leaving the EHCR will do much at all.

Won’t Reform need to repeal the Human Rights Act instead? If they do that, all of these are fair game

• The right to life
• The right to freedom from torture and inhumane or degrading treatment
• Protection against slavery and forced labour
• The right to liberty and freedom except in particular circumstances, e.g. if you have committed a crime
• The right to a fair trial
• The right not to be punished for something that wasn't illegal when you did it
• The right to privacy and family life and freedom from surveillance
• The right to marry
• Freedom of thought, religion and belief
• Freedom of expression
• Freedom of assembly and association
• No discrimination on the basis of religion, race, gender or other characteristics
• Protection of property
• The right to an education
• The right to free elections
• Abolition of the death penalty

Got a SEND child? No right to an Education for you
Discriminated against for being pregnant? Tough luck
Want to bring a group together to protest about the government? No way

Leaving ECHR

Can someone answer me something. So reform have said every “illegal” immigrant will be kept in a detention centre, processed and deported within a few weeks.

how are they going to legally do this when the courts have repeatedly told the Tories and Labour that stuff like this can’t happen. Our law doesn’t allow it. Are Reform going to ignore the law? Because I’d suspect there would be enough legal people who would take cases in and get awarded massive compensation for anyone deported against the law. Or are they going to try and change the law? Won’t that have to go through the House of Lords? Is that possible or won’t the Lords just refuse to change stuff?

My boss is far left and lives in a very affulent area and they do not have migrants hanging about where he lives.

He is far too liberal and accommodating to the masses flooding into the country. Has no idea because it doesnt affect him. Same with those in power, they have no idea.

Its only right that Green areas get what they vote for.