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Do people pretend not to know who people are in order to seem intelligent?

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coulditbeme2323 · 05/05/2026 09:35

Do people pretend not to know who people are in order to seem intelligent?

This question is prompted from reading comments online re The Met Gala?

Now let me prefix this by saying I have no interest in reality tv, Showbiz mags, etc - but surely there are some people who you know who they are because everybody does!

There were people saying "who" on a photo of Kim Kardashian. I have never seen an episode of the show, have no interest in her, but of course I know who she is - because how can you not?

Another British example is Jordan/Kate Price. No interest in her, but she has literally been headline news in The UK for 20 years. If you live in The UK - surely its impossible to not at least know who she is?

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coulditbeme2323 · 14/05/2026 14:06

IpsyUpsyDaisyDoos · 14/05/2026 14:05

You're saying you think KK is the most intelligent business woman to ever have existed?

And you're judging other people?

Of course I am not saying that!

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IpsyUpsyDaisyDoos · 14/05/2026 14:05

coulditbeme2323 · 14/05/2026 14:04

To be honest I think both parts of your statement can be true.

Kanye is a perfect example. Clearly in many many ways unhinged, but also built up one of the most successful trainer brands of all time.

You're saying you think KK is the most intelligent business woman to ever have existed?

And you're judging other people?

coulditbeme2323 · 14/05/2026 14:04

IpsyUpsyDaisyDoos · 14/05/2026 14:02

Which means you're agreeing that KK only managed it because of having made her name by being someone dodgy's step daughter and leaking a sex tape then marrying a well known crazy person?

Or you think that KK is the most intelligent business woman ever to have lived.

Because that's the only reason you think she could do it but you doubt someone you know literally nothing about on the internet could.

To be honest I think both parts of your statement can be true.

Kanye is a perfect example. Clearly in many many ways unhinged, but also built up one of the most successful trainer brands of all time.

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IpsyUpsyDaisyDoos · 14/05/2026 14:02

coulditbeme2323 · 14/05/2026 14:00

Because the percentage of the world that have companies worth 5 billion is minute.

So again I doubt it.

Which means you're agreeing that KK only managed it because of having made her name by being someone dodgy's step daughter and leaking a sex tape then marrying a well known crazy person?

Or you think that KK is the most intelligent business woman ever to have lived.

Because that's the only reason you think she could do it but you doubt someone you know literally nothing about on the internet could.

coulditbeme2323 · 14/05/2026 14:00

IpsyUpsyDaisyDoos · 14/05/2026 13:59

What makes you doubt it? You don't know who I am or anything about me. Because I don't sell every aspect of my life to the tabloids.

So you were being rude, because you have no idea of my capabilities but you've just told me I'm less likely to succeed than Kim Kardashian even if I did exactly the same as her.

Because the percentage of the world that have companies worth 5 billion is minute.

So again I doubt it.

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IpsyUpsyDaisyDoos · 14/05/2026 13:59

coulditbeme2323 · 14/05/2026 13:57

I doubt it to be honest, and I am not being rude - but I doubt it.

What makes you doubt it? You don't know who I am or anything about me. Because I don't sell every aspect of my life to the tabloids.

So you were being rude, because you have no idea of my capabilities but you've just told me I'm less likely to succeed than Kim Kardashian even if I did exactly the same as her.

coulditbeme2323 · 14/05/2026 13:57

IpsyUpsyDaisyDoos · 14/05/2026 13:56

Maybe I would if I was willing to sell my entire life?

I doubt it to be honest, and I am not being rude - but I doubt it.

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IpsyUpsyDaisyDoos · 14/05/2026 13:56

coulditbeme2323 · 14/05/2026 13:55

I just wonder if you had a company worth 5 billion?

Maybe I would if I was willing to sell my entire life?

coulditbeme2323 · 14/05/2026 13:55

IpsyUpsyDaisyDoos · 14/05/2026 13:54

Which is only selling because of her name, which she made by being the step daughter of someone and having a sex tape then marrying and divorcing a crazy person.

Unless you think she'd have made it as a designer without all of that?

I just wonder if you had a company worth 5 billion?

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IpsyUpsyDaisyDoos · 14/05/2026 13:54

coulditbeme2323 · 14/05/2026 13:48

KK has built a clothing brand that Wall Street has valued at 5 billion dollars.

Which is only selling because of her name, which she made by being the step daughter of someone and having a sex tape then marrying and divorcing a crazy person.

Unless you think she'd have made it as a designer without all of that?

WaitingForMojo · 14/05/2026 13:50

I genuinely have no clue who most famous people are. It just isn’t on my radar. Not sure that makes me seem intelligent! It’s not that I think I’m above it, I just seem to filter out the irrelevant information. I have heard the name Kim Kardashian. I don’t know whether she is an actor, singer etc or what she appears in. I wouldn’t recognise her.

coulditbeme2323 · 14/05/2026 13:48

CoffeeCantata · 14/05/2026 13:46

Exactly.

But when I do hear of these people and ask about them, hoping to find the reason for their high profile, I'm always left baffled. They are truly famous for being famous, and shameless self-promoters.

My feeling: yes, but what have they done? Oh - got some implants. OK.

KK has built a clothing brand that Wall Street has valued at 5 billion dollars.

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CoffeeCantata · 14/05/2026 13:46

HeadofAudiology · 14/05/2026 11:08

I have heard of both Kim Kardashian and Katie Price, but have little interest in their vapid lives. I might just about be able to identify them in a line-up of blow-up "gentlemen's relaxation" dolls.

Exactly.

But when I do hear of these people and ask about them, hoping to find the reason for their high profile, I'm always left baffled. They are truly famous for being famous, and shameless self-promoters.

My feeling: yes, but what have they done? Oh - got some implants. OK.

FarmGirl78 · 14/05/2026 13:02

There's also the issues that with extreme contouring, face lifts, cheek implants, lip fillers, hair extensions, nose jobs, turkey teeth and now mounjaro it's easy for slebs to radically alter their appearance QUICKLY.

So you've not seen Katie Price's face in 18 months or whatever because you don't watch much telly, read tabloids or your Facebook algorithms mean you don't cross her path online, and then suddenly you see a pic and don't recognise who it is. People change drastically these days, it's easily done.

I've certainly done it in the past where I've not recognised Lady Gaga etc. It doesn't mean I don't know who she is. I've seen her in concert, followed her career online, but I didn't recognise her in a photo recently. I would have said to anyone with me "Who's that?". It doesn't mean I'm being pious or wanting to give the impression such is beneath me.

FernandoSor · 14/05/2026 11:30

Ilostallthepens · 14/05/2026 10:34

By just living in the world.

Interesting that not one person on this thread has said they have genuinely never heard of her…

Well, as I have mentioned I can guarantee that my parents will have never heard of them. And they do of course live in the world - it's just a very different world to the one you imagine everyone lives in. They are wealthy, live rurally, do not use the internet, take no interest in popular culture, and their lives revolve around classical music, gardening, and reading. Shopping is delivered or done in the very genteel nearby market town. Holidays are in rural France. And that's all fine.

What is interesting is the belief that such people simply cannot exist.

FernandoSor · 14/05/2026 11:18

Ilostallthepens · 13/05/2026 17:55

On billboards, the side of buses, bus stops, adverts on tv, front covers of magazines you might walk past in a shop

I mean, in my case I can answer all these: there are no billboards where I live, our buses don't carry advertising, our bus stops are just wooden shelters or a pole, I don't watch TV with adverts, and I don't take note of the front cover of magazines as I don't buy them, other than Private Eye, which comes via the post.

HeadofAudiology · 14/05/2026 11:08

I have heard of both Kim Kardashian and Katie Price, but have little interest in their vapid lives. I might just about be able to identify them in a line-up of blow-up "gentlemen's relaxation" dolls.

SunConure · 14/05/2026 10:52

@Matronic6 there’s probably a performative element but then all of social media is performative and riddled with showing off, virtue signalling, humble bragging, moral grandstanding, piling on and other unhealthy behaviours. Why single out “who?”
It’s fairly harmless

Ilostallthepens · 14/05/2026 10:34

CoffeeCantata · 14/05/2026 08:15

Or maybe they actually ARE just too high class and cultured ever to have come across KK?

Just a thought.

I wish pps would have the imagination to realise that not everyone shares the same interests or tastes, or lives the same life. Where would someone who mainly listens to Radio 3 and reads books ever hear of KK?

By just living in the world.

Interesting that not one person on this thread has said they have genuinely never heard of her…

SunConure · 14/05/2026 09:23

@Needmorelego good points
and yes there probably is an element of intellectual snobbery but I must admit the two times I’ve replied “who”
the message was irrelevant to the group it was being posted in and delivered with the sort of breathless urgency and outrage that should be reserved for events such as Japan invading Pearl Harbor

Needmorelego · 14/05/2026 09:01

@SunConure but people whose ONLY interest is celebrity gossip/fashion is probably actually a small amount of people.
A person can be interested in celebs and (for example) politics or law at the same time.
I mean Elle Woods solved the case thanks to her knowledge of designer shoes and rules about hair perm maintenance 😁
(if you don't know who that is then the correct response is "who is Elle Woods?" not a snippy "who" 😂😂😂)

SunConure · 14/05/2026 08:41

@Needmorelego im an educator by profession I guess my vocation is to do with trying to raise standards of critical thought. It’s not ONLY about different interests it’s about being empty headed and knowing nothing about the word except who wore what. How can people make sensible decisions regarding voting, jury service, when their main interest is celebrity gossip. Maybe my “who” might encourage someone to think? I doubt it though. Ha ha. But then, it’s up to me what I do

really and I don’t need to particularly have a reason.

Needmorelego · 14/05/2026 08:39

Snorerephron · 14/05/2026 08:30

But op was talking about comments on social media. It's quite impressive to be able to infer sarcasm from a brief social media comment

No you can definitely tell.
Especially on sites like the Daily Mail online 😁
For example the thread here on Mumsnet about Vernon Kaye and Tess Daly I commented "I thought they split years ago" - which is a conversation comment.
But sometimes a thread like that will have comments of "who?".
That's what the OP means. If you don't know who they are why read the thread?
If you do read it you could think "nope... still don't know who these people are" but there's no need to add a comment of "who?".
A "who" on a thread like that is very much someone acting like they are sooooo clever and superior because they don't know who these people are.
It's being snobby.

Snorerephron · 14/05/2026 08:30

Needmorelego · 14/05/2026 08:04

@Snorerephron but would your mum say "who" in a sarcastic manner if she was with a group of people and the name came up in conversation or would she say something like "I don't know who that is....what are they famous for?"
That's the difference the OP is meaning.

But op was talking about comments on social media. It's quite impressive to be able to infer sarcasm from a brief social media comment

CoffeeCantata · 14/05/2026 08:15

Ilostallthepens · 14/05/2026 07:11

I think you and a lot of other posters are missing the point of this thread. It’s not about how much you do or don’t know about Kim Kardashian or how interested you are or aren’t in her. It’s about the intensely annoying, pompous fools who pretend they’ve never even heard the mere mention of her name in their entire lives. They’re trying to create the illusion that they’re far too cultured and high-class for her name or face to have ever crossed over into their world. Total bollocks and smacks of insecurity

Or maybe they actually ARE just too high class and cultured ever to have come across KK?

Just a thought.

I wish pps would have the imagination to realise that not everyone shares the same interests or tastes, or lives the same life. Where would someone who mainly listens to Radio 3 and reads books ever hear of KK?

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