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Is it unreasonable for airlines not to provide wider seats for obese passengers?

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Kag13 · 04/05/2026 21:05

I have today spent a four and a half hour Jet2 flight seated next to a young man who was at least 20 stone, probably larger. I could not use the left hand armrest as his body (fat) buldged over it and into my personal space (which on a budget airline is not that large) and his leg was resting over part of my seat.
Luckily I am only 5’2” and not that big but what would happen if someone of the same size was seated next to him?
it made for a very uncomfortable flight for me. Am I being unreasonable to think this is not right?

OP posts:
Imdunfer · 05/05/2026 18:58

Harmonypus · 05/05/2026 18:20

Some of us are 'larger' and it's not because we're greedy pigs, it can be genetic or due to a health condition, some of us are disabled.
Being disabled costs us approximately £10k more every year than being able-bodied, so why should we incur even more costs for something that's not a lifestyle choice but totally out of our control?

I'm sorry that you are disabled but if you are a UK citizen then you will be in receipt of disability benefits. There are lots of things that are out of people's control, like being old and too stiff to sit with normal legroom, having a temporary knee injury, being too tall, (for which benefits are not payable). It wouldn't be fair for you to have a bigger seat for no extra payment without all those people having one too

Can you explain why you expect people's fellow passengers to contribute to paying for the seats of everyone who can't sit in a standard seat?

Thechaseison71 · 05/05/2026 18:57

Justusethebloodyphone · 05/05/2026 18:54

That’s not really how it works. The model exists on long haul with the various premium economy options. There are people who always book them but they are often sold as cheaper upgrades closer to the time, even at the airport. No matter what individuals think, the statistics show the majority are primarily cost conscious when they book flights.

They are sold as " cheaper" options at airport because price point is too high beforehand. About 3x economy And I'm not suggesting the wider seats get better meals etc

Puzzledandpissedoff · 05/05/2026 18:56

I see Air France and Delta are also prepared to deny boarding to those who haven't booked an extra seat if the aircraft is full, though if there are spare seats they can be obliged to buy one at check in

So the idea seems to be speading, and it's probably no bad thing

Without being unkind I put my arm rest down as I don't like being encroached on by strangers it makes me extremely uncomfortable and anxious. I would have no issue asking them to move off my seat so I can put the arm down as I deserve to feel comfortable and safe too

Edited to add that, as mentioned upthread, I find it better not to raise the armrest in the first place, @Dancingintherain09. Any suggestion from a fellow traveller that "they can't fit with it down" brings a suggestion to take it up with the staff and maybe a reminder that they have to be down for takeoff and landing anyway

Justusethebloodyphone · 05/05/2026 18:54

Thechaseison71 · 05/05/2026 17:44

If say half the plane had 2 wider seat instead of 3 but charged 1.5 the amount of regular seats they'd still get the same money. And save on meals, luggage allowance and cabin crew.

That’s not really how it works. The model exists on long haul with the various premium economy options. There are people who always book them but they are often sold as cheaper upgrades closer to the time, even at the airport. No matter what individuals think, the statistics show the majority are primarily cost conscious when they book flights.

CarrotVan · 05/05/2026 18:53

It is possible to not hate/judge fat people or actually be sympathetic and generally a decent person AND want to be comfortable with full use of the service paid for. I am baffled by people saying otherwise.

I have long term skeletal issues following pregnancy and if I weren’t able to use my seat fully I would be in significant pain for days. Thankfully the kids are still small
enough to be buffers!

Sunshineandgrapefruit · 05/05/2026 18:52

Aren't there weight/ size limits on the seats? Surely that needs to be taken into account. They're so strict on luggage it must matter. It should be flagged at booking, tick this box if over xx lb and then that's the taken Into account. As back up staff at check in and again on the gates should flag it. I don't agree that someone who needs two seats should have to pay for two. The airline should take the hit, they can afford it, but there should be a way to recognise more space is required and adjust accordingly.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 05/05/2026 18:50

SteveHill · 05/05/2026 18:14

Put yourself in the airline's position: seats means revenues. Wider seats means fewer seats means lower revenues. Which puts up fares for all passengers.

The fairest policy is not to provide wider seats, but to insist that oversized people must buy two seats.

As of 2026, Southwest Airlines enforces a policy requiring customers of size to purchase an extra seat if they cannot fit within the armrests. Many international carriers, including Emirates, United Airlines, and Jetstar, also require passengers to book a second seat if they cannot safely fit, buckle their seatbelt, or if they encroach on the adjacent space.

I see Air France and Delta are also prepared to deny boarding to those who haven't booked an extra seat if the aircraft is full, though if there are spare seats they can be obliged to buy one at check in

So the idea seems to be speading, and it's probably no bad thing

notimagain · 05/05/2026 18:48

Monty36 · 05/05/2026 18:35

How the airlines must laugh. Customers that expect such a low level of service.
And of course, they wouldn’t ever dream of denting their profits for their customers comfort. People are right, any changes would hike up the prices.

But people are not going to get shorter, thinner or less bigger built anytime soon.

If you don’t expect positive change by a company, it won’t happen. So we are all lumbered with hard smallish seats and little leg room. And I believe some have, despite people saying otherwise, reduced their seating sizes over the years.

Oh well. Cramped it is.

Up until recently airlines were generally making sub 10 €/£/$ per average passenger over the year, so there's not as much profit to dent as many people make out...

And given current events any of those profits banked will soon be spent trying to keep airlines afloat during the coming downturn.

I'm not hearing much laughing from the airlines or their current employees ATM.

Dancingintherain09 · 05/05/2026 18:42

So, I had this discussion with a friend of mine (she admits she's a 'bigger' person, and needs to squeeze into seats) She said sometimes sits at an angle to not be on other's seat. We both think that like tall people who have to pay for seats with extra leg room there should be higher priced seats with two per row instead of the three which cost 50% more for the 50% more room. Without being unkind I put my arm rest down as I don't like being encroached on by strangers it makes me extremely uncomfortable and anxious. I would have no issue asking them to move off my seat so I can put the arm down as I deserve to feel comfortable and safe too.

user1464187087 · 05/05/2026 18:39

Imdunfer · 05/05/2026 18:37

The man who sat beside me was running sweat the entire flight, beads of it on his skin, wet clothes. He couldn't put his arms by his side, he had them propped on top of his belly so they were just under his chin. And his armpit was therefore right on my shoulder.

The judgemental person on this thread is you. The rest of us are simply describing our unpleasant experiences.

That must have been a pleasant experience for you.......not.
It's made me feel slightly sick!

Gwenna · 05/05/2026 18:38

NewBeginnings77 · 04/05/2026 22:33

Its all very well saying buy 2 seats, except when you do and then....the arm rests are fixed. As we have had happen to us twice now (partner is very tall and very wide). 2 VERY uncomfortable flights and partner didnt actually get the 2 seats paid for due to it. So it's very possible to buy 2 seats but not guaranteed they're usable as a double space.

Excellent point.

Imdunfer · 05/05/2026 18:37

Sensiblesal · 05/05/2026 17:07

I’m not.

I fly a lot. I don’t judge other people cos I’m not an unpleasant person.
yes I have had larger people sat next to me, one couple a while back, she had mobility issues and needed assistance on & off the plane. She was encroaching on my seat a little and hubby was in the aisle a bit, could tell both were uncomfortable and she was so uneedingly apologetic that I couldn’t get off till she had assistance ( I wasn’t bothered)

lovely lady we had chatted a bit about our travels here and there

neither were ‘dripping in sweat’. Nor was there ‘ fat’ everywhere, mostly cos they were dressed like normal people

nothing wrong with having compassion for our fellow humans. Judging others and describing people in the way people are on this thread reeks of the those peoples insecurities not the people they are judging

I made one post on the thread not multiple till replying to you. I hope your day & mood get better

Edited

The man who sat beside me was running sweat the entire flight, beads of it on his skin, wet clothes. He couldn't put his arms by his side, he had them propped on top of his belly so they were just under his chin. And his armpit was therefore right on my shoulder.

The judgemental person on this thread is you. The rest of us are simply describing our unpleasant experiences.

AJLOAL · 05/05/2026 18:35

PolkaDotPorridge · 04/05/2026 21:07

That sounds very uncomfortable for you, if they’re that big then they should be charged for two seats!

Completely agree.

Monty36 · 05/05/2026 18:35

How the airlines must laugh. Customers that expect such a low level of service.
And of course, they wouldn’t ever dream of denting their profits for their customers comfort. People are right, any changes would hike up the prices.

But people are not going to get shorter, thinner or less bigger built anytime soon.

If you don’t expect positive change by a company, it won’t happen. So we are all lumbered with hard smallish seats and little leg room. And I believe some have, despite people saying otherwise, reduced their seating sizes over the years.

Oh well. Cramped it is.

Whammyammy · 05/05/2026 18:31

Had a long flight back from San Diego back end of last year. I had a window seat, a very large woman asked if id swap with her middle seat, which i declined. She then insisted the arm rest was up, presumably so she could spill over into my seat. I declined also.
She called the cabin crew, who explained it was an almost full flight and no spare seats and the arm rest was to stay down for take off and landing, but up after if we both agree...I didn't.

If you're that big buy 2xseats/better clas with bigger seats, don't expect to share someone else's seat

Aliflowers · 05/05/2026 18:29

Tabla · 05/05/2026 11:23

Most obese people don’t want to be obese. Often it will have resulted from some struggles in life and bad things happening. Losing weight is not easy. Otherwise tell me why there are millions of people on WLI. So it isn’t.

I think airlines should book 2 seats for passengers over a certain weight or hip or waist or shoulder measurement / whatever and I think that their second seat should be free. It’s disgusting to stigmatise and charge people for their weight when they have enough to deal with. And it’s also wrong for people like the OP to be inconvenienced.

In our family we have an airline problem as we are so tall. Both DH and DS are over 6ft6inches and I am tired of having to pay £££ for extra leg room. It isn’t fair.

I wouldn’t have been able to sit next to the person the OP describes as I am 6 ft and built. I need my entire seat. Me and DH find it hard to sit together on flights as his shoulders are so broad that they encroach onto my seat. And I need my entire seat as I am tall and built.

It is on the airlines to provide seats that passengers can fit into and not to discriminate. Otherwise, why do children get cheaper seats? They are using a whole seat. So obese people ought to get 2 seats for the price of 1.

I fly a lot with my children and have never had a “cheaper” seat for them. They’re booked as a child certainly but the seat price is identical to the price paid for an adult seat on the same flight.

ThatCyanCat · 05/05/2026 18:27

Even if all plus sized people were plus sized because they ate pies all day while stapled to the sofa, it wouldn't matter. Airlines aren't there to moralise or police bodies and lifestyles. Ticket prices aren't a reward and punishment system for how you eat and exercise.

I'm inclined to agree that if you need more space than the allocated seat provides, the best solution is to purchase a second one, and perhaps the airline can refund one if it's not full (I think some domestic American airlines do this). I just can't think of any other solution that ensures people can have full and proper use of their own space, as they're entitled to.

I'm sure we can discuss and implement this without being rude, cruel and nasty about the people it affects.

Gwenna · 05/05/2026 18:24

Tabla · 05/05/2026 13:02

Solutions seem easy in your world. They aren’t, otherwise these problems wouldn’t exist. Do you also think things like:
the unemployed should just get a job
the depressed should snap out of it
the anorexics should just eat
the overcrowded should just buy a big house
the homeless should just rent a flat

?

Well said!

Gwenna · 05/05/2026 18:23

PoppinjayPolly · 04/05/2026 21:58

Why would it make it more affordable? Airlines would just ramp the prices!

It would surely need to be less expensive than two full standard seats.

Harmonypus · 05/05/2026 18:20

Some of us are 'larger' and it's not because we're greedy pigs, it can be genetic or due to a health condition, some of us are disabled.
Being disabled costs us approximately £10k more every year than being able-bodied, so why should we incur even more costs for something that's not a lifestyle choice but totally out of our control?

LaurieFairyCake · 05/05/2026 18:18

The bottom line is that having a strangers body encroaching on your personal space and touching you for 4+ hours is AWFUL.

ErrolTheDragon · 05/05/2026 18:17

OhamIreally · 05/05/2026 16:27

They aren’t 3x2 they are 3x3. If that’s what you thought then maybe that explains the shrinkflation.

it must depend on what planes each airline is using - we’ve almost always been on easyJet for short haul but I think always some sort of Airbus and the configuration is always 2x3, one aisle and has been for years. They can’t, and haven’t, squeezed in a whole extra seat into narrow bodied planes.

SteveHill · 05/05/2026 18:14

Put yourself in the airline's position: seats means revenues. Wider seats means fewer seats means lower revenues. Which puts up fares for all passengers.

The fairest policy is not to provide wider seats, but to insist that oversized people must buy two seats.

As of 2026, Southwest Airlines enforces a policy requiring customers of size to purchase an extra seat if they cannot fit within the armrests. Many international carriers, including Emirates, United Airlines, and Jetstar, also require passengers to book a second seat if they cannot safely fit, buckle their seatbelt, or if they encroach on the adjacent space.

CrazyCricketLady · 05/05/2026 18:13

Nothing beats a Jet2 Holiday...

notimagain · 05/05/2026 18:13

@SerafinasGoose

markets dictate business models and at present what customers most prioritise is cheaper tickets. That's regardless of the conditions in which they're expected to fly.

Yep.