AIBU to consider voting Green instead of Labour in local elections?

You're insane if you vote for Reform if you care about women's rights. Knowing what a woman is doesn't seem to have stopped the Republicans from eroding women's rights in the US.

Great news, we don’t have to vote for either of the utterly abhorrent Greens or Reform.

Let’s be frank, these parties are popular as they offer easy solutions to complex problems - the cost of living, inequality etc. Greens blame the rich, Reform blame the immigrants. Both are spinning an equally ludicrous lie. Don’t be gullible and fall for it.

They know what a woman is, which is the very lowest bar for being able to protect women’s rights. Greens, SNP and Lib Dem’s fail to even reach that lowest of the low bar. The jury’s out on Labour until they publish the ECHR guidance.

I used to like the Green party and consider them a viable alternative, but I think they've lost the plot, sadly.

Zack Polanski is a very skilled communicator, but I don't find him a credible leader and I don't see him as offering any workable solutions to the problems that we are facing as a nation.

The Green Party isn’t as good with environmental policies as before, but people are delusional if they think Reform are a better option. If we ever considered voting Reform in for the GE, we would have Trump 2.0 in the UK. As for Labour, they have done pretty atrociously in domestic issues, and have done somewhat ok with foreign policy. Take of that what you will.

Hmm. Racists or antisemites? You don’t HAVE to vote for either you know.

Did I say anything remotely like that?

Clue, if you have to make up complete shit, it's because you don't have a point.

Sadly, both left and right leaning parties will cheerfully sell womem down the river.

So if pro women’s rights is being “anti-trans”, does that mean the trans rights movement is misogynistic? If not, why not?

Labour are a sorry disappointment, but the Greens are a disgrace. They are not about the environment- they have some crazy policies- open borders, closing prisons down (?!) not to mention the anti-semitism. Really- they are not a serious option.

Errr just a bit. Have you seen how Reform are imploding and unable to even manage roles at a local level.

How has Labour been a failure?

What appeals to you about the party of rabid Jew-haters?

What the hell happened to the environmental aspect? It's all so bizarre.

And you think reform care about women’s rights! 🤣😆🤣

Complete bullshit. You cannot protect women's rights to single sex spaces when you let men on the grounds of their 'gender identity'.

And you know this. You just don't care about women's rights.

Just one of the many, many reasons not to vote for this horror show of a party.

Being anti trans doesn’t protect women. It just stigmatises a marginalised group.

see above re drug legalisation. IMO people who at least aren’t open to the well researched and studied debate about drug legalisation generally have contempt for drug users. Which isn’t a view that I hold, no.

The first 2 items have been debated many times.

RE drug policy - as someone who works in this area - suggesting that legalisation will somehow increase the danger of these two things is misleading. Anyone could get either of these items delivered to their door within 48 hours via the dark web.

The point of drug legalisation is to prevent harm to users. The amount of people in the US currently dying from Fentanyl overdoses due to contaminated product is a staggering. The worry is it’s only a matter of time before it’s introduced over here. A policy of legalisation prevents drug related deaths.

So if you want to protect women and don’t want drugs legalised youre right wing. Gotcha. You seem nice 🤣🤣🤣🤣

I think the Save The Whales spirit of Greens disappeared a long time ago. They’re just a bunch of dangerous nutters now. I appreciate the other options are also poor.

I mean the green leader of Suffolk county is against solar farms, nationally they are suggesting an across the board subsidy for fuel- and in general the oppose pretty much all building eg HS2 and houses - have cut council housing building in Bristol for w’example and their maternity polices are shocking

Local elections are the most effective way to get change bar a GE. More effective than protests, petitions or anything else.

Well yes small boats are a problem, we have trouble housing them and monitoring them and no-one has been checked to make sure they are safe to be in the UK

Gender critical fem8nism protects womens rights, not mens rights. Perfectly reasonable for women to advocate for themselves.

Crack is bad for you and for society, so is ghb which was banned because people were using it to drug and rape women.

Anyone who finds green policies objectionable is being perfectly reasonabke and sane,

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@ForCyanGuide "Mumsnet has a heavy right wing bias "

Wtf? Are you on the same Mumsnet as me? I'm a socialist and couldn't stomach to be on this forum if that was the case.

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