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AIBU to consider voting Green instead of Labour in local elections?

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Neutralplayer · 04/05/2026 17:26

I’m strongly thinking of ditching Labour & voting for the Green party in the forthcoming local elections because Labour has been such a dismal failure. Do you think this is a good idea or am I being unreasonable?

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domenica1 · 04/05/2026 19:47

Mischance · 04/05/2026 19:00

At a local level it is about what their policies are for the locality. Our green councillor is the most active one we have ever had, taking up local causes and helping people.

Pothole mending and community workshops with a side of antisemitism. Lovely.

TheGreatDownandOut · 04/05/2026 19:45

TheKeatingFive · 04/05/2026 19:35

I know, right?

I hate how polarised it’s become. I think it was you earlier on in this thread that was accused of being a Reform supporter because you didn’t want to vote Green. Why do people think they’re the only two options?

wingingthings · 04/05/2026 19:36

I'll be voting 100. They're the only party that have a sensible economic outlook - taking wealth and rethinking our outdated infrastructure. Labour are a bunch of self serving sleazeballs - Lord Mandelson anyone????

TheKeatingFive · 04/05/2026 19:35

TheGreatDownandOut · 04/05/2026 19:33

Where are all the sensible, centrist parties 😩😩

I know, right?

TheGreatDownandOut · 04/05/2026 19:33

Where are all the sensible, centrist parties 😩😩

Andouillette · 04/05/2026 19:21

Achi11ia · 04/05/2026 18:38

And you think reform care about women’s rights! 🤣😆🤣

Not for a minute. Greens and Reform are two cheeks of a very unattractive arse and I wouldn't vote for either of them. We don't need any flavour of warped ideology and racism, we need sensible politics, delivered in a way that benefits the most people possible.

StainedGlasses · 04/05/2026 19:13

YABU for posting about the elections at all. Do whatever you choose.

BackToLurk · 04/05/2026 19:10

Chinkirk · 04/05/2026 19:01

Ed Davey thinks a woman can have a penis. He says it all the time. He hasn’t even pretended to roll back on this at all.

The Lib Dem’s appear to have shifted slightly. They’ve also annoyed TRAs by taking on board the SC judgement in relation to internal elections.

https://liberalvoiceforwomen.org/blog/safeguards-matter

Ed Davey Acknowledges Importance of GRA Safeguards — Liberal Voice for Women

Ed Davey gave a very encouraging performance on BBC Radio4’s Any Questions last Friday night, with a distinct shift towards a much more moderate position regarding women’s and trans rights.

https://liberalvoiceforwomen.org/blog/safeguards-matter

CatherineRachel16 · 04/05/2026 19:07

Neutralplayer · 04/05/2026 18:54

Thank you for all your replies - lots to think about here…

I'm voting Green as unhappy with Labour. But I think it's entirely reasonable to vote for whomever you like.

Achi11ia · 04/05/2026 19:06

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Or Reform

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HarrietofFire · 04/05/2026 19:05

Chinkirk · 04/05/2026 19:01

Ed Davey thinks a woman can have a penis. He says it all the time. He hasn’t even pretended to roll back on this at all.

As many people have pointed out, I’m not voting for the parliamentary party leader. My local Lib Dem councillors are actually far more sensible and have been doing the job well for years.

Achi11ia · 04/05/2026 19:04

Chinkirk · 04/05/2026 19:02

I said Reform know what a woman is. And they do. And the Greens don’t. How can you think if protecting women’s rights when you don’t know what a woman is?

So you’re ignoring everything in that list. Okaaaay

CatherineRachel16 · 04/05/2026 19:04

Lovingapeacefulgarden · 04/05/2026 17:35

I think you should read there manifesto and up on them. There politics are seriously scary and I dread to see the state the country we will be in if they get in power.

Not goading, just curious. What policies do you find scary?

Chinkirk · 04/05/2026 19:02

Achi11ia · 04/05/2026 18:54

Um I think you need to get out and read up on Reform a bit more. 🤣

Ways Reform threaten women’s rights :-

Scrapping the Equality Act 2010: Reform has pledged to replace the Equality Act 2010 and eliminate "diversity, equality, and inclusion" measures. Critics suggest this would remove crucial protections against sex discrimination in the workplace and in public life.
Reproductive Rights and Abortion: Reform leader Nigel Farage has described the current 24-week abortion limit as "utterly ludicrous," raising concerns about restricting access to abortion. Some members have argued against an "absolute right" to bodily autonomy.
Workplace Rights: Proposals to replace the Employment Rights Act have caused concern over the potential loss of protections for maternity leave, job security, and discrimination protections.
"Pro-Family" Policies and Tax: Some proponents associated with the party have suggested a "reverse child benefit" or tax increases for childless individuals, aimed at encouraging a traditional, "family-friendly" structure that critics say would push women into the home and limit their choices.

Rhetoric and Representation
Gender Gap and Misogyny: Reports indicate that Reform UK has struggled to attract women voters, with a significant gender divide in support. The party has been accused of fostering a "nasty thread of misogyny".
Offensive Remarks: Multiple candidates have been accused of making sexist or offensive remarks about women in public life.
Andrew Tate: Farage has referred to misogynist influencer Andrew Tate as an "important voice for men," attracting criticism for appearing to endorse such views.

I said Reform know what a woman is. And they do. And the Greens don’t. How can you think if protecting women’s rights when you don’t know what a woman is?

LiviaDrusillaAugusta · 04/05/2026 19:02

If you don’t like women or Jewish people then go for it

landlordhell · 04/05/2026 19:02

Labour need more time. Was never going to be easy given what they inherited.

Chinkirk · 04/05/2026 19:01

HarrietofFire · 04/05/2026 18:56

https://www.libdems.org.uk/code-of-conduct/transphobia

The Lib Dems are a viable alternative in my area. This is their policy and while not perfect, at least they don’t insist that trans women are women.

Ed Davey thinks a woman can have a penis. He says it all the time. He hasn’t even pretended to roll back on this at all.

Mischance · 04/05/2026 19:00

Swiftie1878 · 04/05/2026 18:08

If you’re thinking of voting Green, you are almost deranged enough to not be entitled to vote at all.
Please read their policies. They are nut jobs. And dangerous ones at that.

At a local level it is about what their policies are for the locality. Our green councillor is the most active one we have ever had, taking up local causes and helping people.

Chinkirk · 04/05/2026 19:00

MrsBennetsPoorNervesAreBack · 04/05/2026 18:48

You're insane if you vote for Reform if you care about women's rights. Knowing what a woman is doesn't seem to have stopped the Republicans from eroding women's rights in the US.

Of course I’m not voting Reform. Or Green. And I judge anyone who thinks it’s a reasonable thing to do. It’s as reasonable as smacking a small child. You don’t have to do something so vile. So don’t.

Talkinpeace · 04/05/2026 18:59

Councils run Leisure Centres - do they prioritise safeguarding of women and girls

Councils run LEA schools - do they ensure that safeguarding is key to all policies

Councils run local transport - do they prioritise buses and trams that can be used by those too young or old to drive

Councils deal with potholes - do they prioritise repairs over legal fights

Councils fund adult social care - do they try to keep offshore private equity companies from taking profits

Councils fund SEN education - are they trying to keep private profiteers out

Councils handle bin collections - is the recycling system in your area working

Councils DO NOT build homes
Councils DO NOT control where asylum hostels are placed
Councils DO NOT set Whitehall policy
Councils DO NOT report to local MPs

HarrietofFire · 04/05/2026 18:56

https://www.libdems.org.uk/code-of-conduct/transphobia

The Lib Dems are a viable alternative in my area. This is their policy and while not perfect, at least they don’t insist that trans women are women.

Transphobia

Definition of transphobia

https://www.libdems.org.uk/code-of-conduct/transphobia

Achi11ia · 04/05/2026 18:54

Chinkirk · 04/05/2026 18:45

They know what a woman is, which is the very lowest bar for being able to protect women’s rights. Greens, SNP and Lib Dem’s fail to even reach that lowest of the low bar. The jury’s out on Labour until they publish the ECHR guidance.

Um I think you need to get out and read up on Reform a bit more. 🤣

Ways Reform threaten women’s rights :-

Scrapping the Equality Act 2010: Reform has pledged to replace the Equality Act 2010 and eliminate "diversity, equality, and inclusion" measures. Critics suggest this would remove crucial protections against sex discrimination in the workplace and in public life.
Reproductive Rights and Abortion: Reform leader Nigel Farage has described the current 24-week abortion limit as "utterly ludicrous," raising concerns about restricting access to abortion. Some members have argued against an "absolute right" to bodily autonomy.
Workplace Rights: Proposals to replace the Employment Rights Act have caused concern over the potential loss of protections for maternity leave, job security, and discrimination protections.
"Pro-Family" Policies and Tax: Some proponents associated with the party have suggested a "reverse child benefit" or tax increases for childless individuals, aimed at encouraging a traditional, "family-friendly" structure that critics say would push women into the home and limit their choices.

Rhetoric and Representation
Gender Gap and Misogyny: Reports indicate that Reform UK has struggled to attract women voters, with a significant gender divide in support. The party has been accused of fostering a "nasty thread of misogyny".
Offensive Remarks: Multiple candidates have been accused of making sexist or offensive remarks about women in public life.
Andrew Tate: Farage has referred to misogynist influencer Andrew Tate as an "important voice for men," attracting criticism for appearing to endorse such views.

Equality Act 2010

An Act to make provision to require Ministers of the Crown and others when making strategic decisions about the exercise of their functions to have regard to the desirability of reducing socio-economic inequalities; to reform and harmonise equality law...

https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2010/15/contents

Neutralplayer · 04/05/2026 18:54

Thank you for all your replies - lots to think about here…

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Wearenotborg · 04/05/2026 18:53

MrsBennetsPoorNervesAreBack · 04/05/2026 18:48

You're insane if you vote for Reform if you care about women's rights. Knowing what a woman is doesn't seem to have stopped the Republicans from eroding women's rights in the US.

To be fair, thdemocrats would also habe eroded women’s rights. The Americans were damned either way