Which actor/actress were you surprised to discover is hugely connected?

Agreed. But iI think it’s not unusual for people to gloss over the role that luck or privilege plays in their life curcumstance.

I think because the ‘hard work should be rewarded’ is a very idealised narrative, so nobody wants to admit they’ve had it easy and didn’t earn what they have.

Kate Winslet being a culprit of this. She wasn’t a nepo baby herself I don’t think, but she bends herself in a pretzel trying to convince us her daughter isn’t a nepo baby and still had to prove herself.

I think she’s funny. She’s not married although she is in a relationship.

I don’t think Tom Cruise did either. There are loads that haven’t gone through the nepo pathway.

It's not how beautiful you are, it's how the camera catches you.

I know someone (A) who's sister (B) is a model. They look alike, A is stunning but it's B the camera loves.

I think Kate Moss has a fairly non descript face. There are many more beautiful women than her, but her & her daughter have quite elfin features & are almost a blank canvas and all their features fit together well. I actually think her daughter is quite beautiful in a not too obvious way and there's no doubt the camera loves them (wish I could say the same about me. I always think I look OK but quickly change my mind when I see recent photos!)

@Empress13 , the 'look' changes. The models you mentioned had the look in demand at that time.

Lila Moss is nothing like a supermodel short, lank hair and a very non descript face she takes after her father. Certainly doesnt stand out in the crowd. So unfair when there are sO many beautiful girls who cannot get a foot in. Long gone are the stunning supermodels of yester year Linda E, Claudia, Cindy, Christie T, Naomi etc.

@IcedPurple , Well she looks plain next to me but I guessed I'm blessed.

I think Kaia Gerber is extremely bland. Pretty, but I'd struggle to pick her out of a line up of Insta models. I also think she looks much more like her father. Her brother Presley is the male version of Cyndy.

I know that nepotism in the acting world is endemic, but I hate it when parents or children make excuses such as 'Oh, but being related to X only opens the door for you - you then have to prove yourself!'

That's just the point - what most young performers need is just to have the door opened for them. It's like so many nice jobs - lots of us (or our children) could defnitely DO them, but could we GET them??

I don't know if this is still true, but a friend who worked in publishing in the early 2000s told me that magazine publishing was extremely hard to get into and for book publishing - you just had to know someone and get an introduction. It may have changed, but there are so many 'industries' which are effectively closed to ordinary Joes and Joannas.

I just wish everyone involved would be honest about this.

Kaia Gerber has that special something. Lila Moss does too but not in the way her mother has.

I hope she does. However, the reality is that the vast vast majority of actors never 'make it' in the sense of ever being able to make a living from their craft. Being talented is not enough in a highly competitive profession.

Would Kate Moss' daughter Lila even be considered a model without her famous mother??

Nope. She's not even particularly tall. That alone would put her outside of consideration at the first hurdle.

I'm not sure any of the 'nepo models' would make it on their own merits, even though height and looks - unlike say, acting talent or sporting ability - are highly hereditable. Sure, the likes of Kaia Gerber or Lily Rose Depp are pretty, but there are so so many pretty girls out there. All of them lack that special something their parents have.

Fee-paying schools are different in Ireland because they’re usually much cheaper than their UK counterparts (as the government pays the teachers).

Do you blame him?

Although (quoting myself!) his wife does turn up in a lot of the same stuff as him, either on screen or behind it - or both.

I recall reading somewhere that, when he is involved in casting, Stephen Graham tries to make sure that as much of the cast as possible are non-nepo and from non-privileged backgrounds.

@MimiGC , there are lots of actors who didn't have contacts when they started out. If your DD is talented she'll make it.

Actor and singer, David Dundas, of the Blue Jeans/Jeans On song, lovely man, quietly spoken, now aged 80, is actually Lord David Paul Nicholas Dundas.

Dad was Lawrence Aldred Mervyn Dundas, 3rd Marquess of Zetland, and mum was Penelope Pike (Katherine Mary Penelope Pike), Marchioness of Zetland!

Roy Kinnear from C and the C Factory 1971, father of Rory Kinnear (spitting image of him)

There have definitely been people from normal backgrounds who have made it - I think it’s just harder to break in if you don’t have those connections.

I heard John Simm on a podcast talking about his upbringing; very much working class, got into drama school and went from there.

Matthew Rhys is another one, I think his parents were teachers - he just auditioned for Rada and got in. It is still possible, but more difficult I suppose.

If she’s going to drama school they should help her with getting an agent etc.

My daughter is currently applying to drama school and has dreams of becoming an actor. We have no connections to anyone in any of the performing or creative arts, so she will have to do it all on her own merit. Reading this thread is quite depressing.

Ahhh we are talking mixed up here! I was referring to Dakota Johnson as terrible acting and no Oscar! Misread from the top!

I don’t think Melanie Griffiths is much better mind!

Also did not know until now that her mum was Goldie Hawn!!! Omg