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To think almost every woman in the world has suffered some form of sexual harassment by age 30?

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Fearlesssloth · 04/05/2026 08:51

I was having a conversation with a friend the other day. She claims never to have experienced any kind of sexual harassment at all. She’s 37, grew up in the UK, has lived a normal life. I just don’t believe her. Never been groped, never had a sexual remark made to or about her, never felt threatened by a man trying to chat her up, not even a wolf whistle apparently! In her words, “it must be because I’m so ugly”! Still, I find it hard to believe any woman could get to 37 and escape any kind of sexual harassment. So I’m wondering, AIBU? Has anyone on here never experienced any kind of sexual harassment? I’m a similar age to my friend, and I’m lucky in that I haven’t experienced anything really serious, but all the smaller things do add up and give me the rage at men and their sense of entitlement. When I was about 13 and in my school uniform, a man started touching himself on the seat on the train next to me, another man showed me his erection through his trousers on another train, lots of wolf whistles and sexual comments shouted at me while in school uniform (which is just so gross 🤮 ) this was early 2000s. Anyone know if this stuff still happens a lot to school girls? When I was 16 a man I was giving directions to on the street randomly groped my boob. Worst part about it though was that I instinctively slapped him (which got rid of him sharpish) and my friends acted like I was the unreasonable one, ‘why was I acting crazy’, I ‘need to chill out’ etc. which reinforced the idea that women just have to put up with this stuff. Other times I’ve been cornered by men, pinned to the wall, forcibly kissed, had my bum grabbed SO many times, I caught a man filming me once while I was getting changed in what I thought was a private area. What women have to put up with gives me the absolute rage. I just hope that it’s at least better now than it used to be. I wouldn’t really know cos I’m married and rarely in the drunken kind of situations anymore that a lot of these situations occurred in. I haven’t been wolf-whistled at or harassed in the street for a really long time, but that may be because I’m late 30s and it’s all the school girls that are having to put up with it…So tell me about all your experiences of sexual harassment over the years. And if you are that rare person, like my friend whose never been harassed, tell me why you think that is

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Greenfinch7 · 04/05/2026 12:14

I'm 60 and have never been harassed- never touched and no lewd comments. I had no male attention at all until I met my first boyfriend at 24, who became my husband. I think I often have a grumpy, off-putting face, and am flat chested. I don't think I am ugly but probably come across as unfeminine. I also never went clubbing or partying (lots of friends and parties, but just with people I knew, really).

VarioPerfect · 04/05/2026 12:02

I was going to say I haven’t - I’m 39 - but then all the cat calls came back to me. A lot of “give us a smile love” which quickly morphed into aggression.

The worst was when I was a teenager, in my school uniform, an old man with a stick asked me to help him across the road, tried to grope my breasts as I did so, and then used his walking stick to lift up my skirt as I walked away from him. I was so shocked but mostly embarrassed and ashamed, like I’d done something wrong. Reading some of these I feel lucky that that was the extent of it.

Fearlesssloth · 04/05/2026 12:02

MeridaBrave · 04/05/2026 11:58

I haven’t. I’m 51. Not overweight or unattractive, but into bodybuilding / weight lifting. Men at gym treat me as one of the gym bros. They compliment me on my muscles or how much I can lift but in the same way that they’d speak to a man.

I work in finance. I’ve had some stupid comments - like when are you having children etc but nothing ever that I felt physically intimately and even the comments could be laughed off (some would describe as harassment but more like colleagues asking when I am having kids etc).

i think it’s because I am very strong (ripped) and I say what I think, so no one would want to risk it? Also I have small breasts and almost always dress in unisex clothes. I don’t think I’m especially unattractive but my hair is in a ponytail I don’t wear make up etc.

the only thing I can think of is some builders wolf whistling at me aged 16 on holiday in Italy? Or in a park and some strange random man was standing on a bridge with his pants around his ankles. But i don’t view these as harassment - maybe my bar is too high.

Yeah if you think someone flashing you is not harassment your bar is definitely too high!

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Fearlesssloth · 04/05/2026 12:01

Weddinghoildaywoos · 04/05/2026 11:59

I'm 34. I can honestly say I've never had any form of sexual harassment. Including cat calling etc. Saying that I accept I'm a minority

Why do you think that is?

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Lemonthyme · 04/05/2026 12:01

Yeah @MeridaBrave your bar is too high.

Weddinghoildaywoos · 04/05/2026 11:59

I'm 34. I can honestly say I've never had any form of sexual harassment. Including cat calling etc. Saying that I accept I'm a minority

MeridaBrave · 04/05/2026 11:58

I haven’t. I’m 51. Not overweight or unattractive, but into bodybuilding / weight lifting. Men at gym treat me as one of the gym bros. They compliment me on my muscles or how much I can lift but in the same way that they’d speak to a man.

I work in finance. I’ve had some stupid comments - like when are you having children etc but nothing ever that I felt physically intimately and even the comments could be laughed off (some would describe as harassment but more like colleagues asking when I am having kids etc).

i think it’s because I am very strong (ripped) and I say what I think, so no one would want to risk it? Also I have small breasts and almost always dress in unisex clothes. I don’t think I’m especially unattractive but my hair is in a ponytail I don’t wear make up etc.

the only thing I can think of is some builders wolf whistling at me aged 16 on holiday in Italy? Or in a park and some strange random man was standing on a bridge with his pants around his ankles. But i don’t view these as harassment - maybe my bar is too high.

PinkHairbrushClub · 04/05/2026 11:54

I had a friend who declared the same. The crucial reason we’re not friends anymore is she dismissed and minimised other women’s experiences as a result of her insistence. It was very much a vibe of “if that counts as sexual assault then I cannot claim to have never been assaulted” and she very strangely started to treat it as part of her personality. It was around the time that “me too” kicked off.

Fearlesssloth · 04/05/2026 11:54

redskyAtNigh · 04/05/2026 11:34

I don't think attractiveness is a factor either.
Men sexually harass women because they can. So any woman will do.

I actually sometimes think that if I'd actually said "alright then" to any of the many men who have suggested over the years that I might like to give them a blow job as I walked along minding my own business, that an awful lot of them would actually not have wanted to go through with it. The point was to embarrass and to show their superiority. They had no interest in me as an actual person.

I don’t think attractiveness is not a factor at all. Yes, some men are just on a power trip but a lot of the time it is a direct result of a woman being very attractive and it wouldn’t have happened if she wasn’t. I used to have a friend who was absolutely stunning, like jaw-droppingly. Both men and women stopped to stare at her. She modelled occasionally and also had ginormous boobs. And my god, going anywhere with her was an absolute nightmare. The comments were relentless, stuff like ‘hello gorgeous’, ‘oh my god, I’d give anything to fuck you’, ‘give us a shot on your tits’, guys following her into shops, trying to start conversations with her, constantly asking for her number. They were honestly like starved dogs who’d just seen a big juicy piece of meat. It was gross and pathetic. But a lot, not all but a lot of those same guys would’ve walked straight past an average looking woman

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Gemtastic · 04/05/2026 11:52

YourShyLion · 04/05/2026 10:22

It depends on your definition. I've had several experiences that other people would classify as harassment or even assault but I definitely do not. The me too nonsense has broadened the whole definition to ridiculous lengths to the point that a man blowing his nose in the wrong direction has some bonkers women shouting harassment or assault.

It does a huge disservice to people who have genuinely been harassed or assaulted.

It's a woman's world these days. Guys can't do or say anything without some crazy woman trying to vilify them. Women should be thoroughly ashamed of themselves.

What a load of shit.

What’s wrong with you? You’re a massive part of the problem if you’re actually a woman.

looselegs · 04/05/2026 11:51

I'm 57.......so many incidents,especially in the 80s/ early 90s... men pushing their erections into your leg in a busy pub...openly squeezing your boobs..Wolf whistling and shouting stuff out of car windows..... I worked behind a bar and the crap I had to put up with was obscene. And was supposed to just laugh it off as it was part of the job....
My daughter is 22 and the shit she's had to put up with is worse.....although she's got a mouth on her so retaliates very quickly!

ChamonixMountainBum · 04/05/2026 11:48

I have a theory that all male driving instructors are pervs

Probably not helped by the fact that 70s/80s porno 'storylines' often featured said driving instructors shagging their way through willing and compliant young girls. Up there with bored housewives and visiting tradesmen.

Nellodee · 04/05/2026 11:47

FloraDora2 · 04/05/2026 10:15

Now in my mid sixties and when in my teens I endured several gropings and a few flashers too. I say endured because it never occurred to me to report anyone. Being told by more than one work colleague what they'd like to do to me just made me blush because I wasn't the confident and assertive woman I eventually became. A few years later I stupidly accepted a lift home late at night after the public transport had stopped and to save taxi fare I got into the front passenger seat next to a man I'd seen in the bar that evening. My friend lived in the opposite direction to my home so we parted ways.
Now for the horrible part. We chatted on the journey and he seemed okay. I directed him to my road and he parked in a little area just along from my home. I knew at that point he probably wanted a kiss and maybe a grope in return for the lift. I didn't want any of that but he leaned over and I let him kiss me thinking get it over with then say goodnight. Quick as a flash he tipped my seat back and climbed on top of me. He raped me. I was repulsed but didn't struggle because something told me if I'd tried to fight him off I may have come to much greater harm.
This was several decades ago and today is the first time I've shared. I've never forgotten his smell.

I’m sorry that happened to you and sorry you had to carry it around for so long without support. I hope you have found your own healing over the years.

JuliettaCaeser · 04/05/2026 11:46

To the poster that said “<women> should be thoroughly ashamed of themselves” ?!? Are you mentally unwell?!

Gemtastic · 04/05/2026 11:44

Too many times to list them all but started at 12 - flashed at once, much older guy put his hand on my knee! All the other people in the train carriage looked out the window. I hit him with my umbrella.

Hand up my skirt. Boobs grabbed - both day time wearing boring clothes.

Wanked at late at night walking down street. More flashers etc. etc.

Im not remotely attractive but I do have big boobs so that might be part of it. I think some men think that the accident of genetics means you’re more up for it.

Several much older married guys at work coming onto me and touching me inappropriately.

Maybe the creepiest was the guy that came up to me in the park and whispered in my ear he’d been loving looking up my skirt for the last hour.

I know someone who’s much prettier than me blonde and slimmer - she says it’s never happened to her. Maybe they think she’s more untouchable but the uglier women are more desperate??? Or I look more sexual because of the boobs? Or maybe she is better at giving keep off vibes?

IDK but it’s one of the best things about being older - strangers no longer do it although some acquaintances still try their luck occasionally.

I wonder if they know how much we despise them.

ehb102 · 04/05/2026 11:42

Sexual harassment isn't just supposed sexual compliments, it is also harassment on the grounds of your sex. Abuse about your appearance can also be sexual harassment. Yelling "You ugly bitch" at women for example.

DuskOPorter · 04/05/2026 11:42

Men sexually harass women because they can

Absolutely, power, dominance, control, looking for a dopamine hit.

Yellowpapersun · 04/05/2026 11:41

A woman my age (64) most probably has experienced sexual abuse. In my youth it wasn't thought of as SA, it was quite usual to be pinched or grabbed or subjected to a mouthful of filth. I can think of lots of incidents where I was groped, including in the middle of Marks and Spencer, at football matches several times, on the bus and train. A family friend who ran a pub said one of the regulars used to try to lift up her top to see her bra. It was rife in the 60s and 70s.

MrsBennetsPoorNervesAreBack · 04/05/2026 11:37

Fearlesssloth · 04/05/2026 11:28

I have a theory that all male driving instructors are pervs! The amount of women I know that have been propositioned or even assaulted by their driving instructors as teenagers is insane, myself included. When I was 17, at the end of my course of driving lessons before I’d taken my test, my driving instructor said “how about a farewell kiss” and lent over to try and kiss me..i opened the door and literally ran away! But then I tried to justify it in my head and started thinking I’d overreacted, ‘he was just being nice’, ‘I owe him in some way’, ‘it could’ve been worse’, ‘maybe he was just going for my cheek’, ‘I should’ve just let him, maybe I was rude’. Fuck that, even if it was just the cheek it still would have been massively inappropriate but I can only understand that as a fully grown woman. And that’s the problem- young women & girls need to understand that relatively minor incidents like this are never ok and that’s why this kind of behaviour needs to be nipped in the bud, otherwise it results in women questioning themselves, blaming themselves, and prioritising ‘being polite’. I have 3 other friends whose driving instructors were inappropriate with them, and I’ve heard stories of more women it’s happened to too. When my dd learns to drive I’m gonna make damn sure she has a female driving instructor!

To be fair, my driving instructor was male and not in the least bit pervy. And dd's instructor was also a man, recommended to her by a number of her female friends - don't think he ever did anything untoward.

redskyAtNigh · 04/05/2026 11:34

I don't think attractiveness is a factor either.
Men sexually harass women because they can. So any woman will do.

I actually sometimes think that if I'd actually said "alright then" to any of the many men who have suggested over the years that I might like to give them a blow job as I walked along minding my own business, that an awful lot of them would actually not have wanted to go through with it. The point was to embarrass and to show their superiority. They had no interest in me as an actual person.

Fearlesssloth · 04/05/2026 11:34

Malasana · 04/05/2026 11:11

My earliest was walking to school in the early 80s aged 11 and this particular house we had to walk past always had the bloke who lived there wanking at the bedroom window at us.
Vile.
Continued from there really.

Shame it was the 80s and not now, nowadays people would probably film him and put it online to shame him, that’s what I’d do!

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Fearlesssloth · 04/05/2026 11:28

Threesloths · 04/05/2026 10:16

Whistles. Cat-calls. Early 20s a bloke walking towards me in a S London shopping centre grabbed my crutch. Drunk in a pub at 18 being sick in the sink in the ladies a bloke I’d been talking to came in to see if I was ok and put his hand in my knickers. Aged 20 my driving instructor told me if I was ever going to a fancy dress he could see me dressed as a schoolgirl. Whilst holding my baby son the bloke who’d come to fix my boiler pretended to be interested in the baby and made sure his hand went between the baby and my body. Vile. Fuck off. I’m 64 now. On the odd occasion I get a double take from a white van man, usually when I’m driving.

I have a theory that all male driving instructors are pervs! The amount of women I know that have been propositioned or even assaulted by their driving instructors as teenagers is insane, myself included. When I was 17, at the end of my course of driving lessons before I’d taken my test, my driving instructor said “how about a farewell kiss” and lent over to try and kiss me..i opened the door and literally ran away! But then I tried to justify it in my head and started thinking I’d overreacted, ‘he was just being nice’, ‘I owe him in some way’, ‘it could’ve been worse’, ‘maybe he was just going for my cheek’, ‘I should’ve just let him, maybe I was rude’. Fuck that, even if it was just the cheek it still would have been massively inappropriate but I can only understand that as a fully grown woman. And that’s the problem- young women & girls need to understand that relatively minor incidents like this are never ok and that’s why this kind of behaviour needs to be nipped in the bud, otherwise it results in women questioning themselves, blaming themselves, and prioritising ‘being polite’. I have 3 other friends whose driving instructors were inappropriate with them, and I’ve heard stories of more women it’s happened to too. When my dd learns to drive I’m gonna make damn sure she has a female driving instructor!

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DuskOPorter · 04/05/2026 11:27

Yep my own brother, my FIL plenty of unwanted harassment on the streets. More aghast given how common it is that women still rush to NAMALT it is so hard to defend.

redskyAtNigh · 04/05/2026 11:27

I think low level sexual harassment has become so normalised that it's just accepted.
I also think women consciously or unconsciously do change their behaviour to avoid incidents where sexual harassment might happen.

I can see that both of these things might be true for your friend.

A really basic low level example that springs to mind is that most secondary school girls will wear shorts under their skirts because they know some of the boys will try to look up them.

An example of changing your behaviour is not to go out at night, or to take a different route home, or to avoid a pub where you see there is a group of raucous men.

Lemonaided · 04/05/2026 11:27

I don’t believe there are woman who haven’t experienced this because it started when I was in the last year of primary school in my school uniform. At 13 a vicar drove me home and whispered to me with a look in his eye that my body could drive a man to rape. Men have said revolting things to me when I was heavily pregnant. It still happens even though I am an overweight menopausal old hag.

It has nothing to do with how attractive you are or perceived to be. I agree with others that there are woman who brush this stuff away to lightly or believe it to be a compliment.

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