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To think there will be many more disabled adults in 20 years?

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Walkyrie · 03/05/2026 22:04

I’m disabled myself, just to put that out there.

It just seems like the number of people with a disability, usually a psychiatric one, is going through the roof.

40% of disability benefit claimants are claiming for mental health related reasons. The number of anxious children and teens on here, and that I know in my own life and family, is really really high. So many schools refusers and kids in need of extra support, special school placements and so on. It seems there are a lot of unemployed young adults living at home who simply don’t have the mental acuity to get a job, live independently, have a life of their own.

3 children in my family are currently school refusing, one we only found out about today but it was not a surprise as she’s always been very anxious and has selective mutism.

My AIBU is, should we be doing something to prepare for what may be a very high number of adults not working in years to come? How will we sustain them all?

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CostOfLoving · 04/05/2026 00:13

Hallamule · 04/05/2026 00:08

Nor is life more stressful

I think it might be stressful in a different way than our brains and bodies can deal with.

So not objectively more stress, just more of the wrong kind of stress that leaves us crippled rather than rising to the challenge.

Livelovebehappy · 04/05/2026 00:13

I’m no politician but I predict in 20 years time, the UK will be in a mess. AI will have really embedded - less jobs. Disability claimants will probably have overtaken people actually holding down full time jobs, so more coming out of the pot than going in. The Rich will have been taxed to the hilt, so will have escaped to their holidays homes abroad, so the middle earners will be picking up the slack. It makes for very grim reading, but that will be the reality.

SlumChum · 04/05/2026 00:12

The only way forward is to create more jobs that can be filled by disabled people, or have universal basic income funded by taxes on companies that use lots of AI/robotics in place of humans. We need to find ways of paying people for work they can do, or putting money in people's pockets regardless, in order for the economy to function. If we don't, then money simply stops circulating.

SemperIdem · 04/05/2026 00:12

Hallamule · 04/05/2026 00:07

Adults with high functioning neurodiversity have always had children.

I understand what @elliejjtiny is getting at here. We are living through a time where it has never been more important to be able to fit oneself into a label, there is far less freedom to be a bit different, not follow the beaten path. As far as I can see it, life in 2026 is far more restrictive than it was 2006. Not least because employers will do a tick box exercise on being flexible and making reasonable adjustments and then still be horribly difficult in reality.

Abandofangelsincivvies · 04/05/2026 00:11

ClawsandEffect · 03/05/2026 23:16

In my family, 4 in the generation under mine. The youngest is 20, oldest 40. Out of these 4,

1 is in full-time, very functional employment, living independently (had to be forced into moving out).

1 in part-time employment, living with parents, not paying their way.

1 in sporadic employment, living independently BUT funded by parents.

1 unemployed (unemployable?), living with and funded by parents.

I think it is no coincidence that the one that is employed and independent had the strictest parent. This individual is ND, diagnosed in childhood.

The other 3 are also ND to varying degrees. But had permissive parents. 1 of these 3 was allowed to drop out of school. Officially home schooled. In reality did very little educationally. Another 1 of them was allowed to drop out of FE college (there WAS a traumatic family experience that contributed to this).

The child who dropped out of school is probably the cleverest of all of the 4 of that them. A life wasted, because without any education, they are stuck in insecure, entry level jobs. We had such high hopes for them when they were small. All that ability wasted.

I think the common factor is not the ND. I'm pretty sure ND runs through our whole family, not just the one that was diagnosed. I think the key factor is parental expectation that education is mandatory. Also parental willingness to have a firm boundary over what is acceptable and what isn't. Unkind? Probably. Practical? Also probably.

Parents have to take responsibility. If you want a functional child, you have to force them to become functional. This doesn't apply to 100% of children. There will always be a proportion who can't achieve it. But most can. And allowing them to think they can opt out hobbles them before they begin.

As the mother of one adult child with ASD, and one allistic adult child, both of whom are making their way in the world, working and studying for their Masters, I have a slightly different viewpoint.

Totally agree about expectations and inculcating a can-do attitude. We prioritised education for both dc too but had the means to call in private tutors for a couple of years when my autistic child could not cope in mainstream school, And I could afford to give up my work and support them during that period too. And to support their travel. And support their gradual return to ft education which took place in increments. Not everyone has those choices available to them.

I believe that some ASD children should be pushed more and there are some for whom that would be a disaster. I think the majority of parents do their best to encourage children to stay in ft education until it becomes appallingly difficult. And most parents know their dc best too. Especially when they mask at school to a high degree.

I’m in my sixties and when I look back at my own classmates from years ago, the correlation between educational performance and academic success is not quite as clear cut as you might think. Yes the majority of us who studied at university have achieved what I would call a basic to average middle class lifestyle. But I can think of two of my classmates who failed exams, one of whom had dyslexia, who have gone on to out perform all of the rest of us in terms of earning power and soaring careers. They are both highly successful business entrepreneurs.

So to say that the cleverest of the young people in your family has wasted their life and therefore this will apply to most adult dc who drop out of ft education is untrue, and dare I say, rather offensive. First, it depends what your assessment encompasses when you classify a life as “wasted”, and second, from that person’s pov, if their life is a struggle, they and their family may see them as living as successfully as they can within their particular limitations and may be proud of them for doing so. You can have a fabulous academic brain and be completely unable to function in the real world.

And sorry, but the entire condition of autism, auto > the self, can be hidden internally, especially in girls, so you may be judging them on the grounds of the public face they present to the world rather than their inner struggles, the extent of which may only be fully apparent to their parents.

Also, unless your mh is good, you can’t really learn properly or excel in anything. I have seen children with severe anxiety or with autism or other SEN being forced to stay in school and enduring years of stress, and although they completed their school education and passed exams, it all fell apart at university or later on when the wheels came off.

Autism was explained to me, and I am
sorry if I offend anyone by writing this, as essentially a different wiring of the brain that can cause developmental delays in some areas. Therefore some teenagers or young adults can really benefit from a year or two outside of mainstream education so that certain parts of their development has time to catch up and mature with the rest. And some can go on to excel or at least function after that pause and others do not, But I suspect the reasons that lay behind their being able to cope or not, are more innate than anything relating to what their parents did or didn’t do.

Most parents in the UK are desperately trying to find ways to get their anxious or neurodiverse child’s education supported in mainstream education and many are met with a blank wall despite making enormous efforts on their behalf.

Hallamule · 04/05/2026 00:08

Nor is life more stressful

Hallamule · 04/05/2026 00:07

elliejjtiny · 03/05/2026 22:22

I agree. A combination of babies surviving, adults with high functioning neurodiversity having children and life becoming more stressful means there are more people with disabilities.

Adults with high functioning neurodiversity have always had children.

Bunnyfuller1 · 04/05/2026 00:06

MistressoftheDarkSide · 04/05/2026 00:02

I do think that secretly a scarily large number of people think that eugenics in its more extreme forms might be a solution. There is a dehumanising zeitgeist aimed at anyone who is "costing too much money". It's all couched very cleverly of course, and designed to divert attention from things like the biggest wealth transfer upwards to already "rich" people which really got going during the pandemic.

It's why I am extremely conflicted about Assisted Dying, especially given a couple of recent cases in the news.

But it appears the vast majority are more concerned about immigration than the accumulation and hiding of vast wealth, and consider policies to redress the latter ‘madness/nonsense/barmy left’.

MistressoftheDarkSide · 04/05/2026 00:02

I do think that secretly a scarily large number of people think that eugenics in its more extreme forms might be a solution. There is a dehumanising zeitgeist aimed at anyone who is "costing too much money". It's all couched very cleverly of course, and designed to divert attention from things like the biggest wealth transfer upwards to already "rich" people which really got going during the pandemic.

It's why I am extremely conflicted about Assisted Dying, especially given a couple of recent cases in the news.

Charlize43 · 03/05/2026 23:56

Maybe we should just switch the internet off, where's the plug?

But seriously, maybe introduced eco therapy and instead of having these youngsters with MH issues sitting at home looking at Tik Tok, we could get them growing food, weeding and useful gardening.

Dontlletmedownbruce · 03/05/2026 23:55

@Charlize43 as far as I know eugenics and the practise of sterilising genetically undesirable people was way more widespread that Nazi Germany and was going on all over the world including the US. The Nazis took it too far and everyone likes to pretend they were the only ones. The US had a programme and targeted not just intellectually disabled but the poor, criminal men, promiscuous women and unsurprisingly had a massive bias towards non whites. The UK had a programme too but I don't know if it ever actually carried out procedures without consent. I read a book on it years ago but can't recall. I just googled it now and apparently 14 EU countries still legalise the practice but I don't know if that's just a legal loophole or if it actually happens. Unbelievable stuff.

SemperIdem · 03/05/2026 23:54

MistressoftheDarkSide · 03/05/2026 23:47

Good luck with trying to separate one from the other, especially given how income can be extracted from the latter. For younger generations, the online world is all encompassing.

I watched "Grayson Perry has seen the future" this morning. I'm still boggling at the San Francisco business woman who is married to her ChatBot husband.

Income can only be extracted from social media because it is given the absolute free rein it is currently.

The internet cannot continue to be governed by the rules it was in its infancy, when it was a ‘place’ we went to (the home computer, the work computer) when it has evolved into an all encompassing 24/7 omnipotent presence.

Bunnyfuller1 · 03/05/2026 23:54

I’m sure this is unpopular but think for a minute…

Who are the biggest net users of NHS? The elderly. As well as state pensions which were never expected to be funded for as long as they are, more and more money is being spent on pensioners to keep them alive, to the develop another health issue requiring further interventions to keep them alive. Add in the pensions being paid, and other support. Those that contribute the least are taking the most out! And there’s more of them!

I honestly think heroic life-prolonging procedures for those of state pension age is a luxury we can no longer afford. The wealthy don’t want to pay any (more) tax,, the middle class is disappearing thanks to the cost of living and not receiving any support whilst their income has stagnated, and the working class need benefit support because low/no income opportunities/childcare costs.

I watch some of the medical fly on the wall stuff, and there are so many 80+ having extensive surgery to remove a cancer to give them a few more years.

I get the emotional aspect, but at this stage I honestly think it’s a luxury the public can’t fund. This would also extend to keeping those with dementia and other terminal diagnoses. Once state pension is hit then medicine needs to be considered On a cost/benefit basis.

Kirbert2 · 03/05/2026 23:53

My disabled son wouldn't have survived 30+ years ago but did due to advances in medicine. I think that's definitely a big part of it.

LongDarkTeatime · 03/05/2026 23:53

With the de-funding of mental health services and education, yes.

If FaRage gets in it’ll be 10x worse, remember he’s published he wants to privatise the NHS to an American model. It’s clear he wants to run the UK like Trump runs the US for his own profit.

Decoratingisnotmyforte · 03/05/2026 23:52

Do we really have more disabled people or is it just that disabled people are more visible than they were before?

Walkyrie · 03/05/2026 23:50

Anyahyacinth · 03/05/2026 23:48

You mean all the lovely care and NHS staff who are immigrants currently caring for the disabled people in the UK?

Another vote for an utterly pointless goady post...

Is it lost on you that immigrants also need care and will get old or do you expect them to work like robots until they drop

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Anyahyacinth · 03/05/2026 23:49

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Anyahyacinth · 03/05/2026 23:48

Walkyrie · 03/05/2026 22:09

Early doors but people seem to be agreeing with me. Lots of things have become big issues because addressing them at a time they could still make a difference was considered taboo. Look at immigration.

You mean all the lovely care and NHS staff who are immigrants currently caring for the disabled people in the UK?

Another vote for an utterly pointless goady post...

MistressoftheDarkSide · 03/05/2026 23:47

SemperIdem · 03/05/2026 23:41

@MistressoftheDarkSide

No employer requires an employee to be proficient in pro eating disorder TikToks. Microsoft Excel yes, mental health damaging bilge, no.

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Good luck with trying to separate one from the other, especially given how income can be extracted from the latter. For younger generations, the online world is all encompassing.

I watched "Grayson Perry has seen the future" this morning. I'm still boggling at the San Francisco business woman who is married to her ChatBot husband.

MissRaspberryRipples · 03/05/2026 23:45

Because a lot of these young adults have already seen that if they claim pip they don't have to work, they're better off sitting on benefits. Whilst mental health isn't made up is sitting about not working really helping the issue? There's so many adults now claiming pip for mental health, drug and alcohol addiction etc. they don't want to get off drink/drugs etc because they know that if they're rehabilitated they have no reason to not work and come off the handouts that DWP give to them for not having to lift a finger and actually work for what they want. A family member of mine was dangerously overweight and had weight loss surgery then moaned that he lost some of his disability benefits because the weight he lost meant that physically he could go out and get a job

Isekaied · 03/05/2026 23:44

It's an answer no one wants to say.

But people even if disabled will need to work if they can.

That means if you're missing a leg or an arm. Can't see. Or are deaf. If you're able to do work you still need to work.

The other thing is people need to take more responsibility in taking care of their health.

The amount for young people I see smoking weed - this is a leading cause of irreversible mental health problems. Nitrous/ ketamine abuse etc.

I see kids aged 14 smoking weed. And know they will end up with irreversible mental health problems and never work again.

Social media also is a leading cause of mental health issues.

There lots that could be done by the government but they're too scared to do anything about social media and the effect it's having on young kids.

Obviously people who cant work at all won't be working but everyone else will need to try.

socialdilemmawhattodo · 03/05/2026 23:44

youalright · 03/05/2026 22:09

I think if the nhs keeps getting worse and people keep having children at an older age then yes.

Older parents as an issue? What a peculiar view. We are normally much tougher parents, and funnily enough even when our kids do have issues they are shown resilience and how to get on with life despite their issues. I personally think that gentle (ie no) parenting is to blame for much of this. We simply as a society can no longer to afford to support adults who choose not to contribute.

seasmussealife1 · 03/05/2026 23:42

Dollymylove · 03/05/2026 22:47

The pensioners are always a target for mumsnetters. Those who have spent a lifetime working.
We are paying 100s of 1000s of healthy people to sit on their arses every day because they are too lazy to get a job. How about getting them to earn their benefits by going out picking litter, tidying up the areas, cleaning up graffiti etc. Anyone refusing will have their benefits suspended.
Oh but we cant do that can we, its against their yuman rites innit

Us tax payers should be demanding we see it from our office window. /S

Kittkats · 03/05/2026 23:42

XenoBitch · 03/05/2026 22:56

2.6 job seekers to every vacancy.

Yet in my experience only 1 in 5 I shortlist for interview turns up. Are they actually job seekers, or just trying to convince UC they want to work?