To think there will be many more disabled adults in 20 years?

There is no money though. Money is just the poor relation of bartering. My care work should be worth far more than some middle management person's is. My skill is real where middle management is not. I am definitely worth more than those paid 100's of thousands at the highest levels that grift from top job to top job.
Money is basically figures on a monitor somewhere and when the machines fight back we'll all be digitally erased anyway.... to begin with.

Every pregnant woman should have a risk assessment at their workplace so that they can avoid any duties that might affect the foetus. For example working with chemicals or radiation, heavy lifting or working long hours without scheduled breaks.

Im genuinely sorry to hear that. You should apply for adult disability payment if you can. The first step would to be to go to your GP and get a fit note - you don't need to leave work or be unemployed to apply for it . You would be applying for the daily living component if you have MH issues

I went through the process two years ago. It wasn't horrible. It can help people with certain conditions stay in work. You can apply online. You could also see if you would be entitled to a UC top up if your wife had to drop hours because of her health. If she's really not coping - citizens advice might help you or there are websites where you find out what your benefit entitlement would be if she had to work part time because her health is suffering.

That’s not I’m saying. If anything, it’s the opposite and that no one should judge as they haven’t walked in the other persons shoes. FWIW, I’m off work with MH issues and I’m not lazy

Ah ok, sorry I should have checked rather than assumed. In that case I have no idea, it sounds wild though - phone in with burnout, stay on full pay? Why wouldn’t everyone do that?!

Working doesn't always help peoples mental health either.
As I said previously I have been through the process of lcwra three times for mental health. Refused every time even when I was very unwell. I also don't get something for nothing. I paid into the system for decades

People like me have to get on with it according to some people. Because Im not really unwell in their eyes. Im lazy and I want something for nothing

We don't manage it. Not properly. My wife can hardly walk at night when she gets home, and she's still in mourning, to an extent, due to her mum's death last June. We're in turmoil if I'm being perfectly honest with you. I'm 60 in two months, and I've been looking for a job I can do at night or weekends to help make ends meet, but I need to be there for my wife as well. I don't know what to do. Everything's a mess.

Ok so I am not in the uk so may be different but where I am you can’t manage them out for 2 years. They don’t need a medical diagnosis from their own doctor but will have discussions with the company doctor which is an external party (initially by phone ) and it doesn’t take much for them to agree that someone can’t work. The company doctor then manages the process (working with hr) to get them back to work but it can take a long time.

Firstly if that happens I'll eat my hat.

Secondly I can't help but feel older people, and I'm talking older than me (I'm 43) who parented harshly want validation, want those parenting kindly to ultimately be harming their children.

Because I know if I'd parented harshly, if I'd parented like my parents and their parents, I'd carry enormous guilt but if I was emotionally unable to deal with that guilt I'd be looking externally for validation of my methods.

And if that's you, which si how it sounds, or alternatively you're potentially a grouchy non parent who doesn't want to be bothered by people entertaining their kids having feelings then I guess we just see how it pans out

The point here is not that people with (say) schizophrenia, genetic issues or similar conditions should just "get on with it", when that is obviously an unrealistic expectation. It's the grey area in the middle where the assessment is less clear that is the problem. Less available work is part of it, but it's also due to some people's willingness to avoid work and get something for nothing if they can. The work ethic in this country has really changed in the past 50 years and the recognition that we give work life balance has provided a vehicle for that. Faced with a choice of living in a country with very little economic wealth or people accepting a bit more strain on their mental health, I know which I would choose. Being idle does not support anyone's mental health, and being poor is certainly bad for it.

Employers can get rid of people through capability if they are unwell and it's also easier to do that if they have less than two years service. Employees sickness pay doesn't last forever either. When that runs out then the employee would need to claim benefits if they aren't well enough to work

I think you can yes, you can take them through the sickness or performance process and manage them out if they are not medically unwell. I don’t believe burnout is a medically recognised condition, so to continue on sick pay they would need a diagnosis/sick note. If your company is paying burnout leave for anyone that calls in and says ‘I have burnout, I’m not coming in’ then they’ve only got themselves to blame.

The response was about you and you possibly being able to claim lwrca or Pip and still be able to work. I find it very sad that you think some people with mental health issues are lazy just because you manage it

If a person says they can’t some in to work as they are suffering with a burnout you can’t force them to come in and say you are putting them on a plan. When on burnout leave they are put on an integration plan but it needs there cooperation and a develop plan can only be put in place once they are seen as fully recovered.

I don’t know how old you are but phones and other devices weren’t around when I was a teenager so I had to leave my room to do all the things listed. But now, teenagers can do them at home.

So what’s your point? You want them to things that aren’t boring? You want them to leave the house? What evidence is there that doing that would result in fewer disabled adults (your starting point)?

I was too anxious to leave my house because I had ptsd. Not anxiety. However lcwra is being cut in half for new claimants and if there's a change of govt pretty sure there's going to be a benefits shake up

My wife's disabled, and gets PIP and a Blue Badge, but she works full time in NHS Scotland as a nursing assistant. Her life's hell due to the pain she's in but we can't afford for her to give up work, but I don't think she'll be able to work for all that much longer. We'd be sunk if she couldn't work just now, though.

I think it's astonishing that there's this narrative (this isn't a dig at you btw) that people who have mental health issues and work are strong and people on benefits are less strong

I worked to the point where I just couldn't anymore. I was stalked for 15 months then there was one huge event that almost ruined my life. I was really unwell - and the dwp kept saying - no you're fit to work. And a comment was made in a previous post that someone like me is a lazy bastard - because I have anxiety

Given that phones and other devices can be used for many things - gaming, socialising, learning, education, watching shows or films, applying for jobs, etc - it’s hard to conclude anything even if it’s true.

What should they be doing instead, in your view?

You are just reinforcing the myth that people with mental health issues aren't really unwell. I have been through the lcwra process three times. I didn't get it three times when I was on medication. Once under the care of a psychologist and with a ptsd diagnosis. It's not easy to get. Many people are refused

I have ptsd and depression as well and I had a triple leg fracture two years ago that I eventually got disability benefits for for a short period of time while the injury healed.

You can work if you get Pip or lcwra or not if you aren't well enough.