AIBU to post solidarity with the Jewish community here?

It’s done to appease conscience rather than to create substantive, systemic change.

Well, I wonder about that.

Would the ability to create substantive, systemic change not depend on how many people started wearing them? What prominence they were given, if it was a movement that was reported on, debated, got a high profile, grew...

The marches have had an impact, haven't they? They've contributed to the rise in antisemitism and legitimised antisemitic views, while leaving Jewish people more fearful. Perhaps an attempt to redress the balance could go some way to doing that. I'd like to think so, at any rate.

Perhaps a badge wouldn't be the thing that would do it, but something needs to happen to turn this shit around.

No, i was referring to a poster claiming that Gaza was the worst atrocity since the Holocaust.

The demonization of israel as somehow uniquely evil is both driven by and a contributor to anti semitism.

Obviously that poster, like many others, relies on social media as the sole source of their knowledge.

Eh? Who are you? 🤣

I left a comment directed at the OP, why have you twisted it and made it about you. Are you low on attention?

I think if you’re a non-Jew then wearing a pin of the Star of David is performative. Like wearing a Black Lives Matter t-shirt, or leaving a “Free Palestine” comment on a random YouTube video.

It’s done to appease conscience rather than to create substantive, systemic change.

I think it's important to add that an estimated 70 - 80, 000 Jewish refugees arrived in GB prior to the start of WW2 in 1939; and a further estimated 10,000 arrived during the war.

I agree that anti-Semitism was a factor in the decision to stop refugees. But it wasn't the only one. Once the war began, the Government's view was that arrivals from a Nazi-occupied country were potential spies or enemies. There was also grave concern as to whether there would be sufficient future food supplies to feed the existing population and my Grandparents lived through rationing and shortages of various food types throughout the war. The future food supply concern was such that the government issued a pamphlet to pet owners at the beginning of the war advising them to euthanise their pets as feeding them would become unsustainable. An estimated 750,000 cats and dogs were put to sleep as a consequence.

Mentioned after OP baited it twice yes.

Why does a genocide have to be the 'worst' genocide to be worth discussing? What an odd standard to measure mass murder by.

Could you link me to a thread set up to bash Jewish people? I'm struggling to find one.

Me too.

Much love to the Jewish community x

Indeed they are.

Thanks @RochelleMajerKrich for a thread supporting the Jewish community.

You can change it. Just click on preferred answer and it changes

There are antisemites everywhere, including on MN. You should see some of the posts regarding conflict, appalling comments.

And the idea that Gaza (so yes it has indeed been mentioned) is the worst atrocity since the Holocaust. The partition of india, the Pakistani genocide in Bangladesh, the Indonesian genocide in East Timor and West Papua,.Sri Lankan genocide, Russia in Chechnya, Rwandan genocide, Khmer Rouge in Cambodia, Sudan,.DRC, Biafra civil war, Syria, Iraq, Rohingya genocide, Balkan civil war etc etc (sadly plenty more). But no THIS is the worst....
Perhaps the pp needs to read about history and not jsut get information from social media.

I know I can’t speak for all Jews but I would never view your wearing of a Star of David as cultural appropriation. It’s a truly heartwarming gesture so thank you!

Wow, if you really genuinely believe that people recognise Polanski as being antisemitic because he ‘disagrees on Gaza’, you really need to inform yourself much more of what he’s doing, saying, allowing and encouraging within his party.

I’m not going to derail this thread by detailing it here, but you will find other current threads where you can be informed - if you want to be.

I can’t speak to @RochelleMajerKrich’s motivation for starting this thread but the victims of the attack in Golders Green and the wider circle of people who it affects are on my mind. There are more pressing concerns around things like personal safety.

So the poster who was complaining that antisemtiism is being weaponised to stop protests was referring to which protests exactly? Trans rights?

as pointed upthread i had a practising Jewish grandmother, my mother and I have a Jewish surname but are atheist. My grandmother was Eastern European.
I actually think this thread and I await this comment to be removed, is disingenuous and actually a bath faith post wanting to target Zack Polanski.
I am politically homeless, have no skin in the game but the fact he is being called antisemetic for standing up for his beliefs regarding Gaza is insane. Why don’t people understand that opposing Zionism isn’t an issue with Jewish people?! Why can’t we oppose the death of Muslims in what is a live streamed genocide? Israel’s government have literally murdered premature babies. Hamas are evil. They do not represent Muslims. We know this. So why does Israels government who are complicit in evil represent Jews?! The things that if you fact check on independent sources the idf have done are some of the worst things I’ve heard of since the holocaust. Are you saying every member of the Jewish community who oppose this, of which there are 1000s, many who have and will continue to protest, are also antisemetic? The images the media are posting of Polanski which I would post but find abhorrent, are so racist I am glad my grandmother won’t see them. They’re some of the worst imagery of belittling features belonging to a Jewish person I have seen.
Once again, not a green supporter, no skin in the game but it’s madness how the only Jewish person leading a political party with a chance of getting in is being slated for antisemitism. Bullshit. Do you know what’s antisemitism? Young men trapped in the mansosphere thinking “Jews run the world and they’re the illuminati”. It’s denying the holocaust. It’s making Jewish people fear to leave their homes because someone wants to harm them for being Jewish. It’s little thugs who wear Norwegian black metal t shirts that read “support your local gestapo captain” in Norwegian looking at you funny inside a pub because one you went to school with tells his thug friend your surname is Cohen and they’re staring you out and laughing as they walk past you. By not allowing criticism of Israel, or pissing all over the only Jewish leader we have labelling him antisemitic that is actually eating into the disgusting stereotype of “self hating Jew”, this does not help anyone.
We should despise racism in all its forms and not make allowances for it simply because you dislike the Jewish person it’s being aimed towards. My Jewish aunt and uncle are the most conservative people I have ever met and Polanski’s politics would send their heads spinning, but I very much doubt they’d label him an antisemite because he disagrees with their stance on Gaza. Because to my family, antisemitism means something and isn’t a word we chuck around
to score points.
Of course this will likely be jumped on, removed of I’ll have backlash. But I am sick of disingenuous posts giving support to a community I’m a hell of a lot more able to have a say on than plenty others who do, when all it really is bad faith posting to dig at a Jewish man or support Isreal. You don’t care about the way Jewish people feel when a Jewish woman earlier up thread said we should be allowed to criticise the actions of a government without it watering down the genuine meaning of antisemitism.
I remember my grandma trying to teach me Hebrew, turns out I can barely speak English, I remember her cooking beautiful Jewish dishes her mother taught her, I remember her telling me that being evacuated to a boring place with no handsome men when her friends were all meeting soilders was heartbreaking for her. I will remember her stories of rations and telling me that when children in the street had a birthday, other families donated butter and eggs so each child in the street could have a slice of cake. She was my idol and I miss her and her stories but I am relieved that she hasn’t had to live through fear of antisemitism but also the pretence that is solidarity which is and clearly always was a reason to slate a Jewish person.

Sorry @beethecrackon24995 if I’ve made things worse. I am frustrated with the ignorance that these kinds of threads attract, whilst appreciating the kind sentiment of the majority.

OP whilst I appreciate the sentiment as it us lovely, I hate posts like this as they always bring out the jew hating MN brigade and also, end up about Israel

Oh good, well we agree then. You can be one without the other - as long as you’re consistent with your views.

So…if it wasn’t mentioned here - the OP (and you seemingly) are jus desperate for an argument that no one else wanted.

They supposedly just wanted to express their solidarity with Jewish people. Which for the most part was supported and sympathised with in the comments. With one poster noting that it felt performative (which is fine, people can have opinions can’t they).

To say “oh someone is going to bring up Gaza soon” when no one has, and then multiple comments later to say the same thing is just bizarre. Maybe someone will, maybe they won’t. But as things stood they hadn’t, so why try and derail your own thread which was supposedly only designed to show your support for a group of people having a tough time.

Israel isn't an "ethno religious state".
But fair enough that if you oppsoe the existence of any nation state with any national or religious identity then, yes, youre consistent as i said

If you believe only Jews are not allowed self determination then yes you're anti semitic

So? It was inferred here (antisemitism has been weaponsied to stop protest....protesting what exactly?) and its been said (multiple times) elsewhere to try to explain away and dismiss antisemitism

It's really breathtaking.

Sure, Jews have generally been treated well in the UK (second time around at least). Yet the British government only allowed children on the kinder transports in 1938 - their parents were deemed to be too Jewish and were abandoned to their fate, mostly murdered.

And the winds can always change in the UK too. We see it happening.

No one here had said that - despite the OP desperately hoping they would. Twice.

Perhaps that is the thought of “a lot of commentators”. But that doesn’t mean those are the views of everyone and certainly no one here has expressed those views. If the OP wanted that conversation (again) they should have started a different thread.