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To start to think reform will be voted in next time, and they will be running the country

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Whatdoyouthinktothis · 03/05/2026 10:37

I’ve been a life long labour voter, but I’m starting to think reform will be elected next time
mainly just due to so many criminals that want to harm us being allowed in and allowed to stay
and uncontrolled immigration

I think they are going to win it on this reason alone
every single day there’s a news story usually more than one someone’s been raped by one of these criminals one the other day even said he didn’t understand what rape is and he thought rape was just sex

what do you all think ?
Will reform be running the country soon ?
if they are are the capable of running things in other areas ?
if they take over how do you see that actually panning out ?

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IRodeIn · 03/05/2026 21:13

cardibach · 03/05/2026 21:01

Possible, but not proven by my words. Your political position is.

It is actually. Your world view is quite extreme, which is why you see it that way. Political central concerns are considered:
Economic balance
Social stability and gradual change
Pragmatism over ideology
Fiscal responsibility
Institutional trust

I’d guess you also believe the ‘far right’ is taking over?

BIossomtoes · 03/05/2026 21:12

Flyingintotheunknown · 03/05/2026 21:12

Really? So how is it he has such low ratings 2 years in? When it took the tories 14 years to get such low ratings and even then, not as low as the current PM.

Because people are fuckwits. And his ratings are similar to Thatcher’s in 1981.

Flyingintotheunknown · 03/05/2026 21:12

BIossomtoes · 03/05/2026 21:11

He’s certainly better than Johnson or Truss. Marginally better than Cameron. About the same as May and Sunak. The best PMs over the period were Major and Brown - they have that quality rare in politicians - integrity.

Really? So how is it he has such low ratings 2 years in? When it took the tories 14 years to get such low ratings and even then, not as low as the current PM.

BIossomtoes · 03/05/2026 21:11

Flyingintotheunknown · 03/05/2026 21:01

Well Starmer has been. Are you seriously suggesting he’s a better PM than any other we have had in the last 3- 4 decades?

He’s certainly better than Johnson or Truss. Marginally better than Cameron. About the same as May and Sunak. The best PMs over the period were Major and Brown - they have that quality rare in politicians - integrity.

Cherry8809 · 03/05/2026 21:07

Plasticdreams · 03/05/2026 20:15

Unlike you, I have lived in other countries and speak multiple languages. If you’re considering voting Reform, it’s YOU who doesn’t belong in this country as you are a traitor and do not deserve to be here and benefit from this wonderful country we call home.

1: Stop The Boats
Framed as a slogan, not a solution, ignores root causes like war, poverty, and asylum backlogs. Supporting the illegal war in Iran (as Farage did) would only further cause issues and thanks to Brexit and the scrapping the Dublin Regulation, illegal migration increased.
2: Secure and Defend Our Borders
Border security matters, but this leans toward fear politics over humane, workable migration systems.
3: Deport Illegal Migrants
Oversimplifies complex legal cases, risks breaching human rights and due process. I do agree that criminals should be deported though. However, this is something Trump has tried to do and the lack of training and regulation by ICE has led to many instances of America citizens being held in camps for months on end just because they are brown - this includes children.
4: Scrap ILR
Undermines stability for people who have built lives here and contribute to society and will rip families apart - including my own.
5: Restore Britain’s Sovereignty
Vague nostalgia, real sovereignty today means cooperation, not isolation as we are nothing without our allies.
6: Make Law Abiding Citizens Feel Safe
then we need to clamp
down on media who push lies and fear mongering to push their agenda - invest in critical thinking lessons at school so people have the ability to fact check and realise that they are incredibly safe and London which Reform would have you believe is a no go zone, is the safest it’s been in decades - of and the most diverse!
7: Make Work Pay
Agree with the goal, but their broader policies like cuts and deregulation often do the opposite.
8: Scrap Net Zero
Ignores climate reality and risks long term economic and environmental damage. Counter productive to point 9.
9: Support Our Farmers and Rural Economy
Fine in principle, but lacks serious funding or a sustainable farming strategy. If you support farmers you wouldn’t agree to war a in Iran which is stopping important fertilisers that farmers rely on from coming into the country. Look at the US and hear what Trump (Farages bestie) has done to their farming industry. It’s on it’s knees.
10: Revitalise British Manufacturing
Needs green investment and skills training, not just slogans about the past.
11: Make Britain the Best Place to Start and Run a Business
How will this work when they want to scrap minimum wage. Risks becoming a race to the bottom on wages, taxes, and protections.
12: Defend and Protect British Culture and Traditions
What are they exactly? Morris dancers? I’d be keen to know. This is often used to exclude rather than celebrate a diverse, evolving society. To succeed society must evolve.
13: Rebuild Britain's Armed Forces
Hang on, Reform are the Conservative Party MP’s dustbin, and who is responsible for continuously underfunding and cutting military spending - so why have the changed their tune? Do you trust them to suddenly change their beliefs?
14: Help British People Have Families
Real help means free childcare, affordable housing, and wages, not vague cultural appeals.
15: Put British Workers First
Divisive framing, workers rights should apply to everyone to prevent exploitation. Farmers cannot find enough workers to help them harvest their crops. English people don’t want the jobs. Brexit caused this. Thanks Farage with your bus of lies! The NHS never did get those extra millions did it!
16: Put British Businesses First
Favours corporations over workers, consumers, and the environment.
17: Embrace Technologies of the Future
This needs ethical regulation and public benefit, not just profit. I would look at the big tech leaders and
18: Dramatically Cut Foreign Aid
very short sighted, aid helps prevent crises and also prevents people fleeing their own country and coming to ours ‘boat people’

Unlike you, I have lived in other countries and speak multiple languages. If you’re considering voting Reform, it’s YOU who doesn’t belong in this country as you are a traitor and do not deserve to be here and benefit from this wonderful country we call home.

Unlike me? Mighty bold of you to (very incorrectly) assume I’ve only ever lived in the UK and only speak one language 😂

I strongly believe that if Labour had come out with those policies (minus the boats), the left would be out in full force supporting them.

Flyingintotheunknown · 03/05/2026 21:06

cardibach · 03/05/2026 21:03

Better than any in the last 14 years for absolutely sure. And none of those were as bad as Thatcher. Every social and economic problem in this country can be traced back to her.

Not according to the ratings. Starmer has seriously upset a lot of people and much of the general public are very unhappy with this government.

IRodeIn · 03/05/2026 21:04

AwkwardBounce · 03/05/2026 20:59

Goodness me…unintelligible.

Hmmm ok, hopefully 3rd time lucky. What are the achievements ?

Flyingintotheunknown · 03/05/2026 21:03

EasternStandard · 03/05/2026 20:59

There may be some other headlines after Thursday along the same lines.

I agree. It’s strange how some people on this thread cannot see that. Regardless of what people think of the tories (and even previous Labour government in the late 90s and 00s), Starmer has been by far the worst PM with the lowest ratings. This will be evident after Thursday just how much people hate this current government.

cardibach · 03/05/2026 21:03

Flyingintotheunknown · 03/05/2026 21:01

Well Starmer has been. Are you seriously suggesting he’s a better PM than any other we have had in the last 3- 4 decades?

Better than any in the last 14 years for absolutely sure. And none of those were as bad as Thatcher. Every social and economic problem in this country can be traced back to her.

cardibach · 03/05/2026 21:01

IRodeIn · 03/05/2026 21:00

It’s possible, it’s also possible that you view anything to the right of total state control of the economy and society as ‘far right’.

Possible, but not proven by my words. Your political position is.

climbintheback · 03/05/2026 21:01

EasternStandard · 03/05/2026 20:52

Mn can be this but generally she polls higher than the party so probably not. Her ratings have gone up but the party is still behind that.

A lot of friends recently have been praising Kemi so who knows?

Flyingintotheunknown · 03/05/2026 21:01

BIossomtoes · 03/05/2026 20:58

She wasn’t there long enough to have any ratings.

Well Starmer has been. Are you seriously suggesting he’s a better PM than any other we have had in the last 3- 4 decades?

IRodeIn · 03/05/2026 21:00

cardibach · 03/05/2026 20:45

You aren’t politically centre if those are your concerns (or if you can vote Reform). You just see social media even further right than you.

It’s possible, it’s also possible that you view anything to the right of total state control of the economy and society as ‘far right’.

EasternStandard · 03/05/2026 20:59

Flyingintotheunknown · 03/05/2026 20:58

His ratings are apparently the lowest in history

There may be some other headlines after Thursday along the same lines.

WildGarden · 03/05/2026 20:59

OP never came back.

TopPocketFind · 03/05/2026 20:59

Flyingintotheunknown · 03/05/2026 20:57

And still, she never had such low ratings as Starmer does right now!

She only had 49 days

The Tories and Reform would have followed Trump in to a war.

BIossomtoes · 03/05/2026 20:59

Flyingintotheunknown · 03/05/2026 20:58

His ratings are apparently the lowest in history

So were Thatcher’s until the Falklands came along to save her.

AwkwardBounce · 03/05/2026 20:59

IRodeIn · 03/05/2026 20:50

Yes I read it and see no achievements. Which is why I asked you ( the person who claimed there were achievements) what those achievements are. You (the person who claimed there were achievements) doesn’t seem to be able to list any, because I (The person who says there were no achievements) should research to find some and tell you what these non existent achievements are.
I can tell you are a Labour supporter.

Goodness me…unintelligible.

BIossomtoes · 03/05/2026 20:58

Flyingintotheunknown · 03/05/2026 20:57

And still, she never had such low ratings as Starmer does right now!

She wasn’t there long enough to have any ratings.

Flyingintotheunknown · 03/05/2026 20:58

EasternStandard · 03/05/2026 20:56

Going by his ratings many feel the same as you.

His ratings are apparently the lowest in history

Flyingintotheunknown · 03/05/2026 20:57

BIossomtoes · 03/05/2026 20:54

No she crashed the economy instead. The 14 years of Tory misrule were crowned by Truss as the cherry on the cake.

And still, she never had such low ratings as Starmer does right now!

EasternStandard · 03/05/2026 20:56

Flyingintotheunknown · 03/05/2026 18:07

I agree with this. I know many people who have been around a long time who have said that this is the worst government to ever exist in their lifetime. I can remember as far back as Thatcher, John Major, Tony Blair Gordon Brown. Then came along Cameron, Theresa May, Boris Johnson, Liz Truss and Rishi Sunak. And whilst they have all had their faults, not one of them, I feel have been anywhere near as bad as Starmer. And I feel the only people who could do any worse than him are other members of the Labour Party who are likely to replace Keir Starmer if he was to ever resign.

Going by his ratings many feel the same as you.

BIossomtoes · 03/05/2026 20:54

Flyingintotheunknown · 03/05/2026 18:20

Sorry but regardless of ‘how bad’ Liz Truss may have been, she isn’t the one who appointed the mate of a paedophile then tried to cover it up and also stopped members of her own party voting for an enquiry. It all comes down to who is playing the most dirty politics and Starmer has topped that by far

No she crashed the economy instead. The 14 years of Tory misrule were crowned by Truss as the cherry on the cake.

cardibach · 03/05/2026 20:52

Flyingintotheunknown · 03/05/2026 18:07

I agree with this. I know many people who have been around a long time who have said that this is the worst government to ever exist in their lifetime. I can remember as far back as Thatcher, John Major, Tony Blair Gordon Brown. Then came along Cameron, Theresa May, Boris Johnson, Liz Truss and Rishi Sunak. And whilst they have all had their faults, not one of them, I feel have been anywhere near as bad as Starmer. And I feel the only people who could do any worse than him are other members of the Labour Party who are likely to replace Keir Starmer if he was to ever resign.

I’m sorry, this is self delusion on an epic scale.

EasternStandard · 03/05/2026 20:52

Midnights68 · 03/05/2026 20:43

I have a theory - and I might be wrong - that if a white man were leading the Conservative Party, Reform’s support would slump.

I think that racists have deserted the Tory party because they can’t countenance voting for a black woman.

Mn can be this but generally she polls higher than the party so probably not. Her ratings have gone up but the party is still behind that.

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