Paramedics made my father go to hospital

You are actually being unacceptable now and need to get a grip of yourself.

Why bother calling the professionals if you refuse to take their professional advice.

Such a selfish post. Instead of being grateful for a free health service OP bashes it. Time to grow up methinks they may be after compensation which costs everybody. Where I live we have no free primary healthcare and there is a charge of c £280 per trip for an ambulance. Similarly A&E with no admission is £250 per visit. But that way people without insurance don’t waste the time of the wonderful Ambulance crews or A&E. My high heart rate last year that would not reduce was an admittance to A&E monitoring/tests etc with 4 minutes of arrival ( via my wonderful OH as faster than ambulance) with full monitoring for 2.5 hours for £250. Had I needed admittance noxharges applied. Be very grateful for the NHS.

We had the opposite experience. Ambulance called for my father after he collapsed & lost consciousness. He refused to go to hospital & the paramedics said they couldn’t force him. 6 weeks later my father was found dead at home.

I've got AF, onset with sepsis, currently very badly controlled despite thinners and a very big dose of Bisoprolol, awaiting cardio appointment. I don't understand why if his ablation has failed he isn't back on the beta blockers as a matter of course and he has to go to hospital for them. Do you mean Amiodarone? (different story)

ETA paramedics know full well what AF is and are very, very good at ECGS

This kind of complaint likely won't reach the ambulance crew it'll just be binned off. We get so many crazy complaints it's absolutely not fare to put them to crews unless there's something actionable.

With this it'll either just evidence that the Ambulance crew did exactly what the service wants them to do - make sure someone with chest pain like event went to A&E, or it'll be embellished in such a way as to make it clearly made up nonsense i.e the ambulance crew didn't know what AF was (everyone knows it's really quite common/not at all 'specialist' knowledge), or that they told him he wouldn't be allowed another ambulance - it just sounds too stupid/clearly made up.

You're just going to get the standard response it's regrettable you weren't satisfied and the incident will be reviewed.

You sound like you've had a very stressful experience.

However, the A&E waiting time/ understaffing isn't the fault of the paramedics though.

And please, don't say 'bullying' even you don't mean it. Not every time someone says something that someone else disagrees with, is it 'bullying'. You asked them for their professional opinion and they disagreed with you. That's not bullying.

The ambulance staff aren't doctors, they're front line emergency workers. Most ambulance staff aren't even trained to paramedic level, they are emergency medical technicians. They can only do so much. Ignoring potential heart problems is above their pay grade.

Its a bit like how if you call 111 for anything to do with kids, you'll pretty much always be told to go to A&E. They, like ambulance crew, have procedures to follow and if you tick a certain box the advice will be 'hospital'.

You have 2 choices - go along with it, or choose not to and take responsibility for your choice. You seem to be going with a 3rd option, 'go, but complain about it' which isn't reasonable.

We were in A and E recently, dh wasn't triaged for nearly 6 hours, it was shocking.

Nonsense

@JulietteHasAGun , yep, I was reeling from that too!

The reality of the NHS at present is that they are very very stretched and with an aging and growing population you can see why. We need to move to another model of healthcare where we pay for it cos what we have is clearly not working!

@ExtraOnionsmy thoughts exactly.

It begs believe that she thinks they won’t know what AF is

so she is stating from a place of thinking her dad has some special condition that needs specialist care 😂😂😂😂

Complaining about them is so wrong, you should be ashamed @wecangoupupup

Just curious. how much did his treatment cost you today?

was it …. Nothing?

Why are you surprised it was terrible?

you aren’t the customer and neither is he, that is why you / your father are treated as person of no consequence

Good news OP. You do not have to put up with this.

there is an alternative.

roll up your sleeves and type “private A & E U.K. cardiac”

next time you need medical attention for your father, go to a private provider

you won’t experience any of the issues you’ve described

he will be treated quickly and with care and respect

pay up and enjoy a totally different experience

stop expecting the nhs to be anything other than shit - well now, you are starting to learn that you get what you pay for

I speak as a person who went without holidays for three years to save up £10k for vital cancer preventing surgery with a private surgeon after waiting two years for surgery with the nhs - who treated me like dirt, so I truly followed my own advice and paid, it was worth every single penny

10 hours previously

The paramedics were correctly doing their job. They only carry so much equipment whereas the hospital would be able to carry out many more tests, scans and blood tests.
I am so angry you are reporting some poor sod for doing their job.

I've discharged myself from ADAU before I'd seen a doctor. I had to sign the forms but it didn't impact my care in any way going forward.

Just so you know OP, every student paramedic has to pass an ECG assessment, so I’m pretty sure they’ve heard of AF. Heart rhythms are bread and butter for paramedics.

Private care - would still send him to nhs - it isn’t all it’s cracked up to be

selfish selfish time wasters

It's a Saturday, the busiest day of the week for ambulances. There might not be one available if it had happened again the same day.

What a revolting thread.
Let's bash the NHS for doing their job.
Throw in as many complaints as you like, OP. Do your worst.

Your father has agency, presumably, and was able, at any point, to refuse treatment, to refuse transportation to hospital, to refuse to stay for monitoring.

This whole thread is appalling.

If he knows his own body then why bother seeing a cardiologist to have a plan made and why bother calling an ambulance? I'm fact why do any of us ever need medical professionals if we all know our own body best 🤣

"And he was right"

This time maybe... Thank goodness!

They protected themselves and your father in case things were going to get worse. Although it's annoying they acted in his best interest.

The only unfair here is the threat that he'd go last in the queue if he then called them again, I don't think it's true, they have a duty to rescue to avoid legal actions.

If he wanted to refuse it would have been entirely his responsibility and I find fair that they need you to put this in writing.

Sorry he had to wait but we all have to be patient as the NHS is looking after so many of us.

I hope the result is they mark dads records with - strange relatives - beware

what will OPs complaint headline be - “school
teaching my child to read” - when I’ve said it’s not needed