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To wonder why people seem to often know their neighbours less well now?

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Giselle374 · 01/05/2026 02:14

I've been thinking about this. My grandmother was a teacher and parent in the 1960s and 70s, and she was friendly with most of the neighbours. She had had years off when the kids were young (though she then went back and worked full time as a teacher) so maybe this helped give her more time to befriend the neighbours?
I've seen some articles say women not being temporary or permanent SAHMs as much is a factor, but I'm sometimes a bit sceptical as some seem to have an agenda of women working being bad. Also puts all the onus on community networking onto women rather than their husbands..

There's surely other reasons...moving is more common, for one. Collapse of community institutions which might have facilitated neighbour friendships more. And the lack of secure housing, renting more common etc In some cases, second homes meaning the residents aren't there a lot of the time (my DM' neighbours, for one)

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Giselle374 · 01/05/2026 18:22

PauliesWalnuts · 01/05/2026 07:56

Not sure why but it’s really changed where I am over the last decade. I live on a single track road with about 26 houses - a mix between old mill cottages and pre war bungalows. A low hedgerow ran along the front of each house. Very friendly lane, people stopped to chat, road leads to a country park so we get a lot of chatty walkers.

Over the past decade we’ve lost older residents who have died or gone into residential care. In every single case the house has been bought by a young couple and refurbed. Granted they needed TLC but all have ripped out the hedge and garden, set an imprinted drive, high fences and automatic gates. They apparently move here because it’s pretty and semi rural, but every time they refurb they make it a little less so. They don’t mix, we don’t know names, they don’t say hello.

This sounds a bit like my area, though I live in a city suburb not rural area. Wish it were different...

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Additup · 01/05/2026 18:20

Coffeecakeandspice · 01/05/2026 18:06

No, I am meaning they have their hands full with young children and work perhaps. I find this to be the case where I live anyway. Some have more time to themselves than others.

Yes, I understand. They aren't the only ones on the street who have or have had young children and work full time though.

MiddleAgedDread · 01/05/2026 18:20

People drive more than walking so don’t bump into neighbours in the street in passing and don’t let their kids play out so they don’t meet other kids in the street which is how the parents meet etc.

Giselle374 · 01/05/2026 18:19

Toystakenover · 01/05/2026 15:12

People are more stretched and expected to be “on” a lot more (picking up work emails, endless school admin, activities need booking in advance in tight slots, rare playing in street, also lots on phones everywhere)

This, definitely work can demand more due to phones which doesn't help.

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LettuceAndCarrots · 01/05/2026 18:19

I'm a sahm. I love one neighbour but I knew them before we were neighbours. Another I like but don't really chat to but if I needed help I'd feel comfortable asking.

The people opposite are unfriendly and blank us. The people to our rear are actively horrible.

Giselle374 · 01/05/2026 18:18

Gazelda · 01/05/2026 18:08

I wonder whether the growth of supermarkets might also be a factor?

no more bumping into people at the greengrocers. No more getting to the shops on the morning because they close at lunchtime or aren’t open on Sundays.

We can all stop off at Tesco on the way home from work. Or get it all delivered. We’re simply not out and about as much previous generations.

That's a good point. I actually think a move towards less reliance on cars would improve a lot of things. People were probably healthier due to walking more to supermarkets, and less cars meant kids were safer playing outside.

I read somewhere - can't remember where - that short interactions with people who aren't friends or even acquaintances (like neighbours you chat briefly to if you bump into) are a lot more important to wellbeing than previously thought.

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StrictlyAFemaleFemale · 01/05/2026 18:16

In my case it's because the only people who talk to me are Scouts and Guides. Was cutting the front hedge with MIL and a neighbour of mine said hello to her but looked the other way when he came to me.

Gazelda · 01/05/2026 18:08

I wonder whether the growth of supermarkets might also be a factor?

no more bumping into people at the greengrocers. No more getting to the shops on the morning because they close at lunchtime or aren’t open on Sundays.

We can all stop off at Tesco on the way home from work. Or get it all delivered. We’re simply not out and about as much previous generations.

circusrunaways · 01/05/2026 18:07

less time

AgnesMcDoo · 01/05/2026 18:07

Giselle374 · 01/05/2026 17:49

Hmm...in the days when women didn't do paid work as often, wasn't it often common for them to do voluntary work in community organisations as well as gossip etc? This may also have helped neighbour relationships.

Not amongst my mum and her neighbours.

Coffeecakeandspice · 01/05/2026 18:06

Additup · 01/05/2026 17:41

I am, but we're all settled, as in we're all home owners. Tbf it is just 1 couple I'm thinking of. They're friendly enough, just less so than everyone else. Maybe they're shy 😊

No, I am meaning they have their hands full with young children and work perhaps. I find this to be the case where I live anyway. Some have more time to themselves than others.

henlake7 · 01/05/2026 18:05

I think friendly neighbours still exist, esp if you have shared interests like kids or gardening.
Not for me though....one side doesnt speak english and the other is an unstable drug addict!🙄

ToffeeCrabApple · 01/05/2026 18:03

I know loads of mine

Live in a village and have kids in local school but chat over the fence to older neighbours too.

JLou08 · 01/05/2026 18:02

Giselle374 · 01/05/2026 17:54

Yes, I do think women working more is good overall but I also think working hours & pressure are too long and unrealistic often. As you say, if you're always catching up, there's less time for off the cuff socialising. Also think kids' extracurriculars often put too much pressure.

I wonder how much neighbour friendship was a female thing in the past? Since the men were out working. Arguably their hours may have been more reasonable too then to some extent..

The men weren't sharing the load at home so they wouldn't have been as exhausted either, although I don't remember my dad/grandad doing as much chatting with the neighbours anyway.
I think children's activities will be a part of it, and the way they socialise in general. When I was little I was playing out on the street with local children and parents would be popping out to check on us. I don't see many children playing on the streets now. I do wonder if that has led to increased antisocial behaviour too, we learned how to act in public when we were little and parents and neighbours were monitoring from a distance. Teens now start socialising when they get to high school with friends from different areas and no parent in sight, they've missed out on the earlier stage of playing out alone.

cocobow · 01/05/2026 17:58

I think a lot of it probably is that all the adults are working and so people aren't home as much. That's not a critique of women working its just a side effect of it. Also there just seem to be less young kids about at anyone time when I grew up 8 out of 11 houses had young families in them now in the same street there is only 2 houses with young families. In my street there is only one house with young families and lots of older or childfree couples.

When you have lots of young kids in the street they are out playing in and out of each others homes the parents more likely to chat. Men used to work on their cars out front and chat that way, now I rarely see anyone work on their own car except to give it a clean.

I suppose on a personal level I don't really want to get overly involved with my neighbours, I prefer a bit of privacy and space. I have family close by and that is enough intrusion and interaction for me.

Giselle374 · 01/05/2026 17:58

Statsquestion1 · 01/05/2026 14:44

Well, if I think about it, it’s very obvious. It’s because most women are now working so they are not home. And we all have other social outlets now. If I think about it, my granny was a stay at home Mum as were all of the other ladies on the street, they had no other social outlet other than each other, so that’s why they got to know each other.

I think the no other social outlet point is important. SAHMs might have had clubs/groups etc but now a SAHM has the internet & can find stuff that way, may do stuff online...can WhatsApp friends who live further away etc

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Tableforjoan · 01/05/2026 17:56

And also agree with another poster. Once I stop doing the school run since I work from
home I won’t be seen out much at all. Like a recluse.

The back garden sure but unless you are going to really shout over the fence that isn’t going to work either. I don’t do the front garden dh does.

Giselle374 · 01/05/2026 17:54

JLou08 · 01/05/2026 16:42

I think women working more hours is a lot to do with it. My mum and nan were all friendly with the neighbours, they'd have leisurely chats to people they bumped into on the way out. There isn't much time for that in modern life, rushing out of the door in the morning to get to work, coming home tired and wanting to get it so the children's tea can be done in time for the bedtime routine. Busy weekends doing the shopping, catching up with family and cleaning as there's been little chance during the week. Children's activities to drop them off at. Life is manic for working parents.

Yes, I do think women working more is good overall but I also think working hours & pressure are too long and unrealistic often. As you say, if you're always catching up, there's less time for off the cuff socialising. Also think kids' extracurriculars often put too much pressure.

I wonder how much neighbour friendship was a female thing in the past? Since the men were out working. Arguably their hours may have been more reasonable too then to some extent..

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user1476613140 · 01/05/2026 17:51

Meadowfinch · 01/05/2026 02:58

People live more distant lives.

I live in a village, I run around the village so am frequently out and about. I volunteer for the parish council and a reasonable proportion of the village know me. I've lived here 15 years.
My neighbour has lived here 8 years. She works 40 miles away, she drives everywhere, arrives home, goes inside and doesn't come out again. She has her groceries delivered, drives her son to a distant school, I don't think I've ever seen her in the local shops. She is never in her garden.

There is no opportunity to speak to her. I guess she likes her privacy.

I've a neighbour like this. Her kids attend an out of catchment primary so are driven in. She does drop off and pick up on her days (shared custody) so stays indoors all day in between drop off and pick up time.

Weird.

Giselle374 · 01/05/2026 17:49

AgnesMcDoo · 01/05/2026 16:56

My mum knew all the neighbours when she and they were all SAHP

they had nothing else to do but hang out in each others houses drinking coffee and gossiping

I work. My neighbours work.

we are all nice to each other but not part of each others lives

I think it’s that simple

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Hmm...in the days when women didn't do paid work as often, wasn't it often common for them to do voluntary work in community organisations as well as gossip etc? This may also have helped neighbour relationships.

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NoisyHiker · 01/05/2026 17:49

I made friends with the neighbours once.

I have never repeated that mistake.

They were perfectly nice, but so full on. They didn't catch on to indirect hints or direct demands at all. Home stopped being a place to relax, I was tense waiting for the knock or face at the window at any moment.

Couldn't even enjoy any quiet in the garden. The second they saw me out there they shot out and started yapping, not stopping until I went back in home.

I'm not antisocial, but life is so busy that I just need some quiet time sometimes. I'll never put that at risk again. A polite hello, morning or very vague comment is the most I will give neighbours now.

sunflowersandsunsets · 01/05/2026 17:46

Giselle374 · 01/05/2026 17:43

That sounds good.

It's honestly really nice. Everyone is really friendly too - when I'm out walking the dog, people will stop and chat about everything and anything. People sit in their front gardens and chat all the time in the summer months too.

The disadvantage is that if anything happens, the whole town knows in about an hour lol.

Remotehogger · 01/05/2026 17:46

Im 40 and I grew up not really knowing my neighbours. My grandparents didn't really know theirs either!

All my grandparents were born around 1915.

They had no interest in their neighbours.

However I do, and am friends with quite a few of mine ☺️

WearyAuldWumman · 01/05/2026 17:45

In my case, I'm only getting to know the neighbours now that I'm retired. I've been in the same house for 40 years...

I've always known my next-door neighbour, but that's about it. At one point I was working full time and spending a great deal of time driving over to my parents' house to support them.

My late husband retired a good while before I did and seemed to know everyone.

Giselle374 · 01/05/2026 17:43

sunflowersandsunsets · 01/05/2026 17:42

Everyone knows everyone here - I wouldn't say we socialised together but we take parcels in, keep an eye on each other's homes when we're away, bring the bins in etc.

It's a very traditional working class town with a big focus on community and helping each other out.

That sounds good.

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