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Crikeyalmighty · 01/05/2026 09:41

Some very old fashioned ideas of middle class- I actually wonder rather than middle class if the poster means middle income - ! I have lots of books, thousands of records, stuff from travels, we rent though even in early 60s , have a business and I’m pretty sure would be called middle class! and even though I’m not keen on estates I really like this house, just needs personalising a bit - I think some of you don’t think it can be middle class unless it’s what I call a mouse special, Edwardian:Victorian, messy, wallpaper, roll top ancient baths etc -

BunnyLake · 01/05/2026 09:36

OP maybe you should have said judging by the exterior, because too many posters are thinking you mean the interior, which I’m assuming you don’t!

MaybeToxic · 01/05/2026 09:36

SingingHinny · 01/05/2026 09:31

But that has to do with income, not social class.

So how do you judge a house on social class? By postcode, surely?

bohemianwrapsody · 01/05/2026 09:35

Anonymouseposter · 01/05/2026 09:29

I’m sure that whoever lives in that house will be very comfortable and happy and enjoy their hot tub. I don’t think they’ll be too concerned what anyone else thinks. It’s sad when people have to curate an image and display evidence of their travels etc.
The happiest people suit themselves.

But the post wasn't asking whether the people in the house are happy, it was asking whether the house is middle class or not.

Middle class markers such as books, things on the wall which aren't mass produced, pianos, knick knacks from travels are just that, markers. They're not people trying to curate a particular image.

CoffeeCantata · 01/05/2026 09:34

To me, a middle-class house has lots of bookshelves and William Morris prints everywhere, and either no telly or a very small, ancient one.

It's a bit scruffy and most of the furniture is inherited brown stuff or bought from antique shops and eBay.

This is my house! 😂😂

BunnyLake · 01/05/2026 09:34

bohemianwrapsody · 30/04/2026 21:15

Nothing middle class about that house. No books, art, evidence of travels, musical instruments...just an awful lot of fake plants.

So if you walked past it in the street you’d mistake it for a council house?

SingingHinny · 01/05/2026 09:31

MaybeToxic · 01/05/2026 09:30

Because you have to be joking... It's a massive, modern house. If it isn't middle class then it's what.... working class??? 🙄 🙄 🙄
Please. It's far above the average house price and huge. This post has no point. Like the posts that say "is £180k salary a lot of money because I am not sure it is - I barely scrape by each month 😭" ... Ridiculous.

But that has to do with income, not social class.

FruAashild · 01/05/2026 09:31

Inburess · 30/04/2026 21:29

I’m looking at a similar house (in a slightly different area) and I suppose wanted to know what people would think of me if I lived somewhere like that! I know it’s shallow!

But what you are seeing is mainly a response to the decor. I do think you are being very unfair to the owner of this house though, they presumably have done very well for themselves to be able to afford a house twice the average cost and size. The class markers don't detract from that achievement.

Buy a house you love in a location you like and then you won't care what other people think of it because it will be your home.

BunnyLake · 01/05/2026 09:30

Inburess · 30/04/2026 21:12

@worldshottestmom @BurnTheWholeThingDown I don’t get your replies?

What do you mean by is it run of the mill?

It looks like a middle class house probably owned by professionals, to me. I lived on a council estate growing up but a few streets away were houses like this and they were where my middle class classmates lived.

MaybeToxic · 01/05/2026 09:30

Inburess · 30/04/2026 21:12

@worldshottestmom @BurnTheWholeThingDown I don’t get your replies?

Because you have to be joking... It's a massive, modern house. If it isn't middle class then it's what.... working class??? 🙄 🙄 🙄
Please. It's far above the average house price and huge. This post has no point. Like the posts that say "is £180k salary a lot of money because I am not sure it is - I barely scrape by each month 😭" ... Ridiculous.

Anonymouseposter · 01/05/2026 09:29

I’m sure that whoever lives in that house will be very comfortable and happy and enjoy their hot tub. I don’t think they’ll be too concerned what anyone else thinks. It’s sad when people have to curate an image and display evidence of their travels etc.
The happiest people suit themselves.

flagpolesitta · 01/05/2026 09:24

Haha I like Dunelm, I also think this house is perfectly nice and, although I’d tweak a few things, I would be over the moon to live in it. Not sure what that says about me?

Also nobody has answered my question about whether my aunties vast collection of interesting fridge magnets from every holiday/travel/day trip destination, ranging from Skegness to Majorca and beyond, count as ‘evidence of travel’? 😃

Boolabus · 01/05/2026 09:22

I'm not in UK but price tag would be, where I live you would never get a house that size or in that condition for that price. It would be a million plus

Credittocress · 01/05/2026 09:19

Theseventhmagpie · 01/05/2026 08:52

You’re a real charmer aren’t you.

The question is what class would you say the style of house is. Nothing about it says class to me.

I could have wrapped my thoughts up in a nice comment and maybe said “It’s very Dunelm Chic” but the meaning would be the same

bohemianwrapsody · 01/05/2026 09:18

ProfessorBinturong · 01/05/2026 09:05

Not from scratch. The rumpled beds you pointed out, and the piles of clutter in the corners of the pic 23/24 office are definitely real. As is the lawn. But they've taken a lived-in house and done a photoshop cleanup (blurring photos and taking out other identifiers, probably improving the light) that has given it that uncanny look and a few bits of odd perspective.

Nope. There's a 360 tour with the same details such as the strangely positioned fan and computer monitors, and there isn't an AI tool capable of creating complete 360 tours. I maintain that generative AI has not been used in these photos.

Sundaymorningbrunch · 01/05/2026 09:17

FieldInWhichFucksAreGrownIsBarren · 30/04/2026 21:52

Unnecessary snobby as fuck comment.

It's a perfectly nice house.

I know! Some really horrible replies on this thread!

worldshottestmom · 01/05/2026 09:16

Inburess · 30/04/2026 21:12

@worldshottestmom @BurnTheWholeThingDown I don’t get your replies?

I think you do

LaburnumAnagyroides · 01/05/2026 09:14

SixtySomething · 01/05/2026 08:10

Well, I don’t think I would want to be introduced to you all the same. I don’t really do female lines , I find them a bit ordinary. I wouldn’t mind meeting some of your titled relations however, so would be obliged if you could just provide contact details and I’ll take it from there. I’ll say I’m a friend of yours. 🤣

Oh well, your loss.
The women in my family tend to be a lot more interesting than the men.

ProfessorBinturong · 01/05/2026 09:07

HarshbutTrue2 · 01/05/2026 08:52

I didn't know that dogs denoted class. That is worthy of a whole new thread. 😂
That house is middle class with tres nouveau riche interior. Quite a small garden. But middle class covers a whole range, from new builds to country cottages to semi- detached and depends on the area.
I suppose Giles on gogglebox is middle class. His house is quite cluttered and tatty. I'm just waiting for all the hate because I watch a ' lower class' TV programme.

Dogs are definitely class linked. Probably more than houses, because there are fewer factors constraining choice.

ProfessorBinturong · 01/05/2026 09:05

bohemianwrapsody · 01/05/2026 08:56

I completely disagree. I'm very familiar with AI and the home office picture isn't generated. None of them are.

Not from scratch. The rumpled beds you pointed out, and the piles of clutter in the corners of the pic 23/24 office are definitely real. As is the lawn. But they've taken a lived-in house and done a photoshop cleanup (blurring photos and taking out other identifiers, probably improving the light) that has given it that uncanny look and a few bits of odd perspective.

Anonymouseposter · 01/05/2026 09:00

It’s the house of a very comfortably off person. Most people couldn’t afford it. As for class it depends how you define middle class.

Kelticgold · 01/05/2026 09:00

Do you mean middle income?

What is a working class house?

bohemianwrapsody · 01/05/2026 08:56

ProfessorBinturong · 01/05/2026 08:41

But it would generate a fan pointing directly at a wall (pic 23) and a 'home office' with an implausible number of monitors overlapping in ways that would give Escher a headache (pic 24). Several pics also have that weird flatness of CGI. It may not all be AI, but some of it very definitely is.

I completely disagree. I'm very familiar with AI and the home office picture isn't generated. None of them are.

HarshbutTrue2 · 01/05/2026 08:52

wearemorethanourboots · 01/05/2026 07:26

This is such a weird question. We used to live in a similar Redrow, but I'd say us and most of our neighbours were working class people who happened to have done reasonably well for ourselves. Not sure having a big house can actually make you middle class?

Where we live now I would definitely say most of our neighbours are middle class - old houses, older cars, spaniels and labradors as pets, posh accents, pianos and shelves full of books. We bring down the tone a bit!

I didn't know that dogs denoted class. That is worthy of a whole new thread. 😂
That house is middle class with tres nouveau riche interior. Quite a small garden. But middle class covers a whole range, from new builds to country cottages to semi- detached and depends on the area.
I suppose Giles on gogglebox is middle class. His house is quite cluttered and tatty. I'm just waiting for all the hate because I watch a ' lower class' TV programme.

Onelifeonly · 01/05/2026 08:52

What a bizarre discussion! All the houses I've bought in my life are Edwardian / Victorian terraces in North London. The first two were definitely ex 'workers' homes but at least one is now in a highly sought after area close to the tube and you need to be quite affluent to afford them (unless they've been in the family since the 1970s or whenever).

Current house on a larger scale so I assume a wealthier type of family would have lived here originally.

Re mortgage comment earlier - it's doubtful that anyone buying this place would be a first time buyer, so they'd have built up equity over time and wouldn't need a mortgage on the full price.