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Wingingit73 · 02/05/2026 07:45

FFS

supersop60 · 02/05/2026 07:43

ilovepixie · 30/04/2026 21:42

Why does it matter?

This. I can’t get past page 2 of the comments.
If you like a house, buy it.
I’m a music teacher, professional, uni educated - I would be considered lower middle class. I live in a 4 bed semi
A friend of mine is married to a High Court judge and they live in the countryside in a 5 bed detached with a couple of acres of land. They are middle class.

LaughingCat · 02/05/2026 06:01

PickAChew · 01/05/2026 23:48

You must be somewhere really cheap, then, as newbuilds around that size in my notoriously cheap bit of the north are not anywhere mear half the price of Derbyshire, which is where Ashbourne is.
4 bedroom detached house for sale in Lionfields, Lambton Park, Chester Le Street, DH3 4DS, DH3 https://share.google/2cXPVV6r9ldHUq6mz

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Ahhh…for some reason I thought Ashbourne was in Kent 🤦‍♀️ Sleep deprivation really has made me an idiot! It’ll be the new-build thing then - our house is over 100 years old, and house prices for non-new builds are reasonably cheap round here. But when developers cram a full-sized house onto a tiny postage stamp of land, for some reason they charge the earth!

pinck · 02/05/2026 02:10

SingingHinny · 02/05/2026 01:04

That was a bit unnecessarily sharp-clawed. I’m assuming you’d acknowledge that that hideous confection, decorated and AI rejigged a for particularly lurid Middle Eastern or Russian oligarch tastes, is hardly typical of the UK property market either.

Those carpets alone are a cry for help.

Save the 'sharp-clawed' lecture for someone who gives a damn. I’ve already had some idiot today call me 'stupid' for saying 'realtor' instead of 'estate agent,' so I’m officially finished with people who think policing tone and vocabulary is a substitute for actual intelligence.

If you're so desperate to find something to critique, have a look at these pathetic excuses for listings instead: 171823655 and 174515789

Idk who taught the people in the first one to hang art, but it clearly wasn't anyone who owns a spirit level or has a shred of aesthetic awareness. And as for the second one? They literally couldn't be bothered to move the vacuum cleaner out of the frame—it's just sitting there in the foreground, as if it’s a feature of the hallway.

MsSmartShoes · 02/05/2026 01:08

bohemianwrapsody · 30/04/2026 21:15

Nothing middle class about that house. No books, art, evidence of travels, musical instruments...just an awful lot of fake plants.

I agree. Regardless of social class - it’s a superficial shell of a non intellectual lifestyle.

SingingHinny · 02/05/2026 01:04

pinck · 02/05/2026 00:33

It’s bold to claim 'staging isn't a UK thing' while I’m literally looking at a £44 million Belgravia townhouse (Rightmove ref: 157525997) that’s been stylized to within an inch of its life. Just because you’re only browsing bargain-bin listings where agents take photos on a potato doesn't mean everyone else is doing the same. Maybe stop shopping in the gutter and you’ll see what the actual market looks like.

That was a bit unnecessarily sharp-clawed. I’m assuming you’d acknowledge that that hideous confection, decorated and AI rejigged a for particularly lurid Middle Eastern or Russian oligarch tastes, is hardly typical of the UK property market either.

Those carpets alone are a cry for help.

pinck · 02/05/2026 00:33

ProfessorBinturong · 01/05/2026 23:35

Staging isn't really a UK thing. At any level. Certainly not to anything like the extent Americans go for. Our system for selling houses is completely different from yours, as are the expectations for how to go about it.

It’s bold to claim 'staging isn't a UK thing' while I’m literally looking at a £44 million Belgravia townhouse (Rightmove ref: 157525997) that’s been stylized to within an inch of its life. Just because you’re only browsing bargain-bin listings where agents take photos on a potato doesn't mean everyone else is doing the same. Maybe stop shopping in the gutter and you’ll see what the actual market looks like.

SemiRetiredLoveGoddeess · 02/05/2026 00:15

bohemianwrapsody · 30/04/2026 21:15

Nothing middle class about that house. No books, art, evidence of travels, musical instruments...just an awful lot of fake plants.

What used to define Middle Class is fast disappearing. As the older generations die out, and Societies tastes and attitudes change.

And of course the Economy and Internet.

The house in the photo look really bland and safe design wise. Which seems to be the current vogue.

Quite big and a good size garage but really non descript.

PickAChew · 01/05/2026 23:48

LaughingCat · 01/05/2026 21:14

Rooms are small, back garden’s pokey - like most new-ish builds, they’ve tried to cram too much into too small a footprint. It’s not bad but I wouldn’t pay that price for it - I was shocked by the high prices and relatively poor quality of new builds when we were looking. But then, I’m northern so got our 5 bed detached with a massive garden in a lovely market town for less than half that 😂 Southern prices are insane!

You must be somewhere really cheap, then, as newbuilds around that size in my notoriously cheap bit of the north are not anywhere mear half the price of Derbyshire, which is where Ashbourne is.
4 bedroom detached house for sale in Lionfields, Lambton Park, Chester Le Street, DH3 4DS, DH3 https://share.google/2cXPVV6r9ldHUq6mz

Junebug76 · 01/05/2026 23:42

WildGarden · 30/04/2026 21:57

Living room - Somewhere you sit on a settee and eat rich tea biscuits straight from the packet.

Sitting room - The settee's called a sofa and it's chocolate Hobnobs served on a plate with doily.

Lounge - You're horizontal a couch with a Domino's pizza balancing on your hoody front.

Parlour - Purely used for viewing dead aunt in casket.

Hahaha this really made me laugh. Mine is all of them depending on the day of the week (minus the doily & dead aunt I have to admit )

ProfessorBinturong · 01/05/2026 23:35

pinck · 01/05/2026 21:58

What the fuck are you even on about? I’m not saying books are clutter in general, but when you’re trying to showcase a space, yeah—they go. That’s literally how staging works. You strip out anything personal so people focus on the house, not your life. Would you leave dog beds, laundry, or random piles of stuff out? No. Because then it looks lived-in in a way that doesn’t sell well.

Taking out dog beds and kids’ toys doesn’t mean you don’t have them, and removing books doesn’t mean you don’t read—it means you understand basic marketing. It is genuinely embarrassing that you think a marketing brochure is a window into someone’s soul. Also, houses are often staged after the owner has already moved out because not everyone is so financially squeezed that they have to live in their old house while selling it like you probably would.

When my parents sold their multi-million dollar property—in an area far beyond the reach of most people on this thread—their realtor swapped out even their curated furniture for neutral pieces, recognizing that my parents’ personal style is not universal, only keeping a few things like their Hermès armchair and a $30k grey sofa in the basement to serve as neutral anchors. I did the exact same thing when I sold my last house; it’s standard practice for anyone who actually knows what they’re doing in a high-end market.

ETA: I had a quick browse on Rightmove and yeah… if you’re used to looking at low-rent listings where people leave all their shit out and take photos on an iPhone mid-chaos, then I get why actual professional staging is confusing to you. You’re literally too small-time to understand the market you're judging.

And yes—realtor. I’m American, calm down. AIBU genuinely has to be about 90% rage-bait at this point, because there’s no way this many people are truly this far out of their depth 😭

Staging isn't really a UK thing. At any level. Certainly not to anything like the extent Americans go for. Our system for selling houses is completely different from yours, as are the expectations for how to go about it.

ThePoliteLion · 01/05/2026 23:11

structurally it’s a lovely big house. It says “prosperous family” to me. The furniture is bland, tick box contemporary, cheap-ish looking. Not what I’d call stylish at all. But that’s not the question we were asked, I know.

Charlize43 · 01/05/2026 22:52

House looks pretty from the outside, but the interior looks a bit Argos to me.

Mumstheword1983 · 01/05/2026 22:34

Allseeingallknowing · 01/05/2026 22:12

It’s much,much bigger than the average new house!

Yes I agree. Most new builds near me are all 10ft by 10ft bedrooms (and at least one single room) and smaller gardens than this.

Mumstheword1983 · 01/05/2026 22:32

It's a nice house. Good room sizes. Plenty of them (for a modern property). Not sure about middle class as it's not really about the house is it but middle earners definitely.

Wordsmithery · 01/05/2026 22:26

A house cannot be middle class. Its occupants could be, though - or any other class, for that matter. If you mean is it a house where affluent people are likely to live, then my answer is yes. But you can't draw any interpretations about their so-called class or background (whatever class means these days).

Zov · 01/05/2026 22:17

Can people please stop calling each other stupid? It's so rude, people just have different opinions and views. No-one is wrong, or right, or stupid.

Peace man! ☮ Grin

Allseeingallknowing · 01/05/2026 22:12

Dragonscaledaisy · 01/05/2026 19:46

It's a very 'standard' looking Redrow home typical of their estates all over the country. I would expect someone in the middle to live in it, class is irrelevant.

It’s much,much bigger than the average new house!

pinck · 01/05/2026 21:58

bohemianwrapsody · 01/05/2026 08:13

So when they uncluttered their house, did that involve replacing all their real plants with plastic ones? And taking down any interesting art or prints and replacing them with shit from the Range? Why didn't they unclutter the room with all the computer monitors and plastic crates?

I think usage of "realtor" rather than estate agent tells us all we need to know about who's stupid here. I imagine I've touched a nerve because you have no books in your house. Books aren't clutter and don't need to be removed for marketing photos 😂

What the fuck are you even on about? I’m not saying books are clutter in general, but when you’re trying to showcase a space, yeah—they go. That’s literally how staging works. You strip out anything personal so people focus on the house, not your life. Would you leave dog beds, laundry, or random piles of stuff out? No. Because then it looks lived-in in a way that doesn’t sell well.

Taking out dog beds and kids’ toys doesn’t mean you don’t have them, and removing books doesn’t mean you don’t read—it means you understand basic marketing. It is genuinely embarrassing that you think a marketing brochure is a window into someone’s soul. Also, houses are often staged after the owner has already moved out because not everyone is so financially squeezed that they have to live in their old house while selling it like you probably would.

When my parents sold their multi-million dollar property—in an area far beyond the reach of most people on this thread—their realtor swapped out even their curated furniture for neutral pieces, recognizing that my parents’ personal style is not universal, only keeping a few things like their Hermès armchair and a $30k grey sofa in the basement to serve as neutral anchors. I did the exact same thing when I sold my last house; it’s standard practice for anyone who actually knows what they’re doing in a high-end market.

ETA: I had a quick browse on Rightmove and yeah… if you’re used to looking at low-rent listings where people leave all their shit out and take photos on an iPhone mid-chaos, then I get why actual professional staging is confusing to you. You’re literally too small-time to understand the market you're judging.

And yes—realtor. I’m American, calm down. AIBU genuinely has to be about 90% rage-bait at this point, because there’s no way this many people are truly this far out of their depth 😭

LaughingCat · 01/05/2026 21:14

Rooms are small, back garden’s pokey - like most new-ish builds, they’ve tried to cram too much into too small a footprint. It’s not bad but I wouldn’t pay that price for it - I was shocked by the high prices and relatively poor quality of new builds when we were looking. But then, I’m northern so got our 5 bed detached with a massive garden in a lovely market town for less than half that 😂 Southern prices are insane!

Serenissimissima · 01/05/2026 20:57

Butchyrestingface · 01/05/2026 18:21

Why? Would the upper classes have an indoor heated pool?

Swimming pond

BunnyLake · 01/05/2026 20:19

tommyhoundmum · 01/05/2026 20:17

No, I keep remortgaging to improve the place. It's not a palace but is quite nice.

Ah I see.

BunnyLake · 01/05/2026 20:18

Bikergran · 01/05/2026 19:08

Nobody lives in a "middle-class house". They live in a house, and its status is determined by its occupants, be they common as muck or the creme de la creme. It wouldn't be a MCH if the garden was strewn with a discarded half-burnt sofa, broken plastic toys, fag ends and several used nappies, and it wouldn't be a MCH if it had a carriage and four and a butler......🤣

A house, regardless of occupants, or it may even be empty, can certainly give off an air of being middle or working or upper class.

No one is walking through The Bishop’s Avenue thinking it’s a council estate.

tommyhoundmum · 01/05/2026 20:17

BunnyLake · 01/05/2026 20:14

You haven’t paid it off yet?

No, I keep remortgaging to improve the place. It's not a palace but is quite nice.

BunnyLake · 01/05/2026 20:14

tommyhoundmum · 01/05/2026 19:43

I live in a one bedroom flat with a small additional room that cannont be called a bedroom unless you are the local council. It was last valued at £700k and I paid £8k for it and have had a mortgage since 1976. I am working class.

You haven’t paid it off yet?