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AIBU to want politicians with strong academic and business backgrounds?

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Catsandjkr · 30/04/2026 12:33

AIBU to want politicans to be highly academically successful And have experience in running a business?

I'm so tired of these low grade politicians ruining our lives. They can lie (as Starmer exempifies), they don't need qualifications or experience to get the job. In inexplicable in other areas of life.

What a joke. But I suppose when its politicans like Lammy, Starmer, Reeves in charge, it won't ever change.

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GreenGrass555 · 30/04/2026 16:06

Lavender14 · 30/04/2026 13:17

Personally I'm sick to death of watching private school boys run the country into the ground. I'd much prefer to be represented by someone who is reflective of the majority of people in the country. Educated and informed absolutely but it takes so much more than having grades and a 'business head'.

There's not a single privately educated person in the current Cabinet.

Several - Lammy, Streeting, Rayner (who I assume will be back soon) - come from very humble backgrounds.

poetryandwine · 30/04/2026 15:58

PS I see @Badbadbunny is making the same point about ministerial specialisms

poetryandwine · 30/04/2026 15:57

So can you give us an example of a major political figure from the last 20 years of whom you do approve, OP? Webb sounds good but is not a major figure, and the Centre for Government Reform is too new.

David Cameron has a First in PPE from Oxford. He gave us the disaster that is Brexit, because he could not be bothered to exert himself to do relationships within his Party with those he didn’t deem important. Neutral sources (ONS, Bloomberg, IFS) concur it’s cost us 6-8% of GDP every year since.

FWIW I agree with @Snorlaxo that it would be good to align ministers’ portfolios with their expertise. This means they will hail from various backgrounds. All this chopping and changing seems odd.

Eagerly awaiting to hear whom you do commend, recent-ish past or present. TIA

BreakingBroken · 30/04/2026 15:36

12 months in and Mark Carney is doing well in the polls. Currently he has lots of public support.

Badbadbunny · 30/04/2026 15:33

Runnersandtoms · 30/04/2026 12:38

Not really, I'd rather our country wasn't run like a business. That's what leads to things like decisions about life saving treatments being made on the basis if money not what is important to people. Also highly academic types from public schools iften have no idea,what life is like for disadvantaged or deprived people so have no compassion for them.

But when it's run by people who are financially innumerate and financially illiterate, there's no money to pay for the public services needed. We need a balance.

A good start would be only appointing someone with a legal qualification as attorney general, someone with an accounting/financial qualification as Chancellor, someone who has been a teacher or otherwise employed in education as education secretary etc. That way, at least the people responsible for each department have some relevant knowledge and experience of their remit so can challenge their permanent secretaries and maybe even come up with some sensible ideas of their own!

ThePeewit · 30/04/2026 15:21

Arlanymor · 30/04/2026 12:53

So SAHMs should be precluded from standing for election? Despite the fact that they have lived experience of millions of other people in the country, despite the fact that they might be incredibly bright and politically astute? But if they've never received a pay slip in their lives then they just written off? What a way not to value the contribution of mothers in society. I'm honestly appalled. I made that point about privilege myself further back in the thread and even made a book recommendation!

Someone needs to tell Nancy Pelosi that she never should have become Speaker of the House, given that she was a housewife for 20 years before she ran for congress at the age of 47...

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It's pretty rare for someone to have completed education and moved straight into being a SAHM without ever doing a day's work. Perhaps someone very young on benefits or very wealthy with a trust fund?

But no, I think some life skills are necessary, parenting isn't enough on it's own.

5128gap · 30/04/2026 15:20

I want people with the ability to manage their teams, who know what they need to make decisions and will instruct the best people to bring them that information. Who will listen to a range of experts and apply critical thinking to make decisions after weighing up all the necessary data and evidence.
I want them to make decisions that align with their manifesto and the values, ethics and direction of travel they outlined to win my vote.
I want good diplomats who will represent our interests globally because the wider world feels threatening and our position precarious.
I couldn't care less what job they did prior to being in government or what level of formal education they recieved provided they have those skills and attributes.

HoskinsChoice · 30/04/2026 15:15

TooMatchaMatcha · 30/04/2026 13:27

You are aware, I take it, that global law firms, huge international businesses, are run by... lawyers?

I am. Are you aware of how many lawyers, outside of the legal firms, are run by lawyers. (Clue... not many!).

BIossomtoes · 30/04/2026 15:12

TheLandlordsAreFrowning · 30/04/2026 15:05

Gosh, I'll be glad when the elections are over. Then all the Farage enthusiasts can reap what they are sowing all over MN.

I might give this place a miss next Thursday, it’s going to be unbearable.

TheLandlordsAreFrowning · 30/04/2026 15:05

Gosh, I'll be glad when the elections are over. Then all the Farage enthusiasts can reap what they are sowing all over MN.

enpeatea · 30/04/2026 15:04

Why does having run a business qualify a person as a politician? Look at D Trump! (I believe he once managed to make a loss running a casino). Doing a good job of destroying the world economy though

ParmaVioletTea · 30/04/2026 15:00

Starmer has high academic qualifications, as does Lammy. Your post doesn't make sense, YABU.

You should listen to/read the journalist Tom Baldwin on Starmer, in this podcast (free) or in the weekly newspaper, The New World

https://www.thenewworld.co.uk/podcast/the-starmer-conundrum-with-special-guest-tom-baldwin/

To paraphrase Baldwin (who knows Starmer well, as he wrote a biography of Starmer), Keir Starmer is the nearest to "an ordinary person" it is possible to be in the post of Prime Minister. And look what he has to deal with ...

The Starmer Conundrum… with special guest Tom Baldwin

A special episode of the podcast today with real depth of thinking on where Keir Starmer has gone wrong… and why right now is NOT the right time to replace him

https://www.thenewworld.co.uk/podcast/the-starmer-conundrum-with-special-guest-tom-baldwin/

TopPocketFind · 30/04/2026 14:55

MNLurker1345 · 30/04/2026 14:49

@TopPocketFind, it doesn’t please me
to say this, but I’ll go for it! Nigel Farage.

Many will say he is not reading the room, but creating the room.

And again, same sentiment, sometimes Andy Burham.

Farage? Well he certainly fools a lot of people.

Man of the people he is not. His closeness to Trump could be a problem for him.

And why did he receive £5m just before deciding to stand as MP?

MNLurker1345 · 30/04/2026 14:49

@TopPocketFind, it doesn’t please me
to say this, but I’ll go for it! Nigel Farage.

Many will say he is not reading the room, but creating the room.

And again, same sentiment, sometimes Andy Burham.

TopPocketFind · 30/04/2026 14:40

MNLurker1345 · 30/04/2026 14:35

@CurlewKate, what world experience do they really have?

David Lammy most probably has one of the most elite educations of many MPs.

They don’t come across as worldly to me. They certainly are not reading the public mood at the moment.

Who is reading the public mood?

VeryQuaintIrene · 30/04/2026 14:38

I'd rather have some politicians whose lives more closely resembled the lives of most people in this country. The hordes that have followed that golden PPE Oxbridge to advisor to politician to MP route are extraordinarily out of touch with so many people's lives and I think it's been very damaging. (And I say that as an Ox graduate myself who was at college with a lot of these 2nd-raters.)

MNLurker1345 · 30/04/2026 14:35

@CurlewKate, what world experience do they really have?

David Lammy most probably has one of the most elite educations of many MPs.

They don’t come across as worldly to me. They certainly are not reading the public mood at the moment.

CurlewKate · 30/04/2026 14:18

MNLurker1345 · 30/04/2026 14:14

I disagree. I don’t actually consider them to be academic. Highly educated, yes but not academic in the essence of what it is to be an academic. They don’t come across as deep thinkers, researchers or experts. They are highly professional but not academic in my experience.

Ah. Well, I’d rather a well educated person with real world experience, personally.

MNLurker1345 · 30/04/2026 14:14

CurlewKate · 30/04/2026 13:55

Lammy, Starmer and Reeves are all highly academic. Bizarre that you would suggest otherwise.

I disagree. I don’t actually consider them to be academic. Highly educated, yes but not academic in the essence of what it is to be an academic. They don’t come across as deep thinkers, researchers or experts. They are highly professional but not academic in my experience.

Monty36 · 30/04/2026 14:02

We have too many career politicians. Who will say anything as long as it gets them voted in. Whether they believe in what they spout forth or not is irrelevant.
Problems have arisen as now we are no longer in Europe problems cannot be thrown over the fence as in we would like to but Brussels rules mean we cannot. Accountability to Westminster is back. And some are finding that tricky.

Some mentioned Elon Musk. Hopeless in Government. He sacked a load of people who had worked with an unblemished record accusing them of fraud. Some not unreasonably decided they were insulted by this. And took him to Court. The Court had to reinstate all of them. As his notion they were all frauds and wasteful he was unable to prove. He had none. The Court gave him time to provide evidence. He could not. What he had done was sack people on the basis of a sentiment and a line that sounded good to other people. But had no basis whatsoever in reality.

Bringing people in from the private sector to ‘show how it is done’ is nothing new. Often it is people with an eye on contracts, opportunities.
Nothing whatsoever to do with the public good.

CurlewKate · 30/04/2026 13:55

Lammy, Starmer and Reeves are all highly academic. Bizarre that you would suggest otherwise.

BIossomtoes · 30/04/2026 13:54

MrsBennetsPoorNervesAreBack · 30/04/2026 13:52

I want our politicians to be representative of our society as a whole, with a broad range of experience and insights from many different spheres. So that they can genuinely represent the interests of everyone in our society.

Same. I love it that we have an MP who still does shifts as an A&E doctor.

WhynotJanet · 30/04/2026 13:53

Catsandjkr · 30/04/2026 12:33

AIBU to want politicans to be highly academically successful And have experience in running a business?

I'm so tired of these low grade politicians ruining our lives. They can lie (as Starmer exempifies), they don't need qualifications or experience to get the job. In inexplicable in other areas of life.

What a joke. But I suppose when its politicans like Lammy, Starmer, Reeves in charge, it won't ever change.

You can dislike Starmer as much as you want or not think he is a good PM, but why on earth would you say he isn’t ‘highly academically successful’? It just makes YOU sound uneducated.

Lampzade · 30/04/2026 13:52

JLou08 · 30/04/2026 13:42

Are you a business owner? I think that is a really strange requirement. There is a lot more to government than making money.
I'd rather have a parliament made up of people with varied backgrounds. Teachers, medical professionals, social workers, lawyers, working class people who understand the struggles those living in poverty face, disabled people who understand oppression and the importance of equality.

This

MrsBennetsPoorNervesAreBack · 30/04/2026 13:52

I want our politicians to be representative of our society as a whole, with a broad range of experience and insights from many different spheres. So that they can genuinely represent the interests of everyone in our society.