To think saving on Universal Credit is extremely difficult?

This is what winds me up. I work in the area of public spending. There is ZERO leeway in the money we have. We desperately need to stop the national debt increasingly endlessly, and yet we have people on benefits with Netflix. If you have enough to get Netflix then you are receiving more in benefits than you need and the government needs to address this excess spending. Anything they can save will put off the point at which this country drowns in the sea of welfare payments being chucked around. I can’t believe so many posters don’t understand this. How can you be so economically illiterate?

But your facts are wrong. People on UC are always better off working more hours. Yes, they might get less in UC, but they’ll make far more in wages than they lose in UC.

The rules were changed years ago to make it more beneficial to work.

I don't drink. It costs too much.

I thought you were on benefits? How can you afford Netflix on benefits? I

Like I said having an NHS dentist is a massive privilege in this country free or not. Their lile gold dust

I cringe for many people on the benefits threads all the time, its so transparent they all think they're entitled to everything. And they don't care where it comes from. 'the rich' I guess.. economically illiterate

Its not about agreeing or disagreeing its about you spreading misinformation and when you're told your wrong instead of listening and learning something you won't accept it

PIP is not a means-tested benefit. You can get PIP if you’re disabled, even if you’re not entitled to UC. You could earn £100K a year and still get PIP. You’re effectively saying that disabled people shouldn’t have holidays.

That’s the difference then because I’m sure it would be free.

Either you've had a (good) few or you're a bot gone rogue. Try again, see if you can make it make sense second time round.

great debate - as expected :)

Not at all. It's not trolling because you disagree with it.

I don't think so but I'm not sure we haven't had nhs Dentists round here for years its either private or no dentist

Or just plain stupid, but either way you are right that they are not worth engaging with.

Listen I agree that big corporations should pay workers higher wages, and pay more tax, there's no doubt about that. But instead of enforcing change, Labour are just splurging the benefits bill. And people on benefits will never think they're 'not entitled' to said benefits. So here we are the sad tax payer funding the bill, for now. Unsustainable of course.

If you has a nhs dentist would you still have to pay though?

Yep

I think if you are having a cut, colour and blowdry that £200 is probably not far off the mark nowadays. I go to the cheap Poundshop version of the hairdressers cos I’m not paying that kind of money even if I can now afford it without worrying to much, though I suppose if I was paying that out I probably would worry a bit more

I don’t disagree with what you say overall but the person wasn’t talking about luxuries which all of them are but having a buffer for emergencies.

people on benefits really don’t have the luxury of saving for holidays/brand new iphones etc never mind wanting them now. So they end up buying things on expensive predatory finance & so further sucked in the trap

I pay for dentist as can't get an NHS one like a lot of people. I pay opticians like a lot of people on uc. I don't pay for prescriptions but I wouldn't anyway as I have a medical exemption

Cringing for you!

It really isnt true at all!

Apologies if this has already been posted.

Sam Vimes’s ‘Boots’ Theory of Socio-economic Unfairness, propounded in Men at Arms:

The reason that the rich were so rich, Vimes reasoned, was because they managed to spend less money.
Take boots, for example. He earned thirty-eight dollars a month plus allowances. A really good pair of leather boots cost fifty dollars. But an affordable pair of boots, which were sort of OK for a season or two and then leaked like hell when the cardboard gave out, cost about ten dollars. Those were the kind of boots Vimes always bought, and wore until the soles were so thin that he could tell where he was in Ankh-Morpork on a foggy night by the feel of the cobbles.
But the thing was that good boots lasted for years and years. A man who could afford fifty dollars had a pair of boots that’d still be keeping his feet dry in ten years’ time, while the poor man who could only afford cheap boots would have spent a hundred dollars on boots in the same time and would still have wet feet.

I work over 16 hours and get uc

Bless. It;s never going to work when so many people claim benefits. What have Labour done.

I do have a pre payment certificate because my medication would cost me 120 a month my point is on uc you don’t all have to pay for these things people I know get free prescriptions free eye test free dental so yes uc do have something more than a working person who does full time.