To think saving on Universal Credit is extremely difficult?

I think the pp is referring to the TBI's report which suggested that people with "mild depression", ADHD and muscular skeletal conditions should lose eligibility to cash benefits. Basically pretty much what the government tried already and was forced to abandon. Let nobody say Mr Blair is yesterday's man - he's much further away than that!

The cuts to LCWRA are apalling and discriminatory. They'll affect people like my child, born with a genetic disability and not likely to be in a position to sustain themself through full time work. But hey, if you can't work, you must starve, right?

I have no idea how my tax has been spent. I am not talking about my tax but the personal money I spend on top of that. The largest component of welfare is the state pension at just over 11% of government s-ending so I guess a chunk of my money goes on that. You were not clear as you have now stated how much of my tax and national insurance went to people who don’t work but the original question was how much goes from my wages which is a different thing entirely.

Labour aren't just talking about it. They've already cut the amount new claimants on lwcra get by half

I think I've been perfectly clear.

From the income tax and national insurance you say you paid last year, how much money went directly to people who do not work?
Bonus questions:
How can you be sure that your individual contribution went to that particular group rather than, say, all of it going to pay for cabinet members to attend an overseas conference?
Do you differentiate between pensioners, carers, disabled people and those you may well see as just plain indolent?

Life is much better when you ignore the spiteful!

To be honest, even Labour are talking about some reform with disability payments, with some ‘mental health’ conditions.

It will happen.

To be honest, even Labour are talking about some reform with disability payments, with some ‘mental health’ conditions.

It will happen.

Does getting free money to stay at home help with a mental health problem though?

You really have no knowledge of severe mental health conditions, do you?

Well, it’s not very clear what you are asking as I think I have answered it. But be be more specific…..I pay four people 2k a month each so 8k each month paid from my wages direct to them. They are people who are not working but will be making a significant contribution to society in the future.

Isn’t it obvious? Benefits are going to be slashed soon as they are totally unsustainable. We could either cut 20% of all benefits OR cut certain conditions from getting them. If it’s the former, you will suffer due to less ‘deserving’ illnesses being included in the ‘too ill to work’ category.

Severe mental health issues need prompt treatment so the person gets better and back into the economy and living a fulfilling life, not signing the sick person off for life!

When I was on UC and working. I took every spare hour I could get but it wasn't enough to get me off Uc. I remember being in wetherspoon years ago and a manager was conducting a job interview and told the applicant they would get a guaranteed 8 hours a week. Zero hours contract. It's tough out there for a lot of people

This.

Does getting free money to stay at home help with a mental health problem though?

Income should be taxed for all. You say 'profoundly disabled' - I think 'profoundly disabled' people deserve all the help they can get. Unfortunately such people are being negatively impacted by people claiming benefits for being 'disabled' where 'disabled' might mean eg. anxiety or say they cant work as they cant leave the house. Sorry - that is not the same. People are afraid to say it but it's true.

Does getting free money to stay at home help with a mental health problem though?

No, you really must make an effort to understand what I'm asking you. Try again.

I'm so sorry about your uncle and your other experiences. I've experienced similar earlier in my career.
I hope that people who argue that mental health isn't quite real or as debilitating as physical illness speak from a place of literal ignorance, that they haven't seen the ways in which severe and enduring mental illness destroys the lives of people and their loved ones. It would be unbearably cold blooded otherwise.

Ah ok. Then around 100k personally donated to others.

It was thankyou 23.6 to 25% of total government expenditure goes on social protection which is pension and benefits what I was talking about when I said 6% was from income tax what an individual pays out of their tax but a pp has said thats for disability benefit so I might have got that wrong I remember reading it a while back. It doesn't take much to confuse me. I just pay my tax and ni and don't put a lot of thought into where is goes as i have always been in the over 50% of people who are a net recipient so I know I've taken out more then I've put in my own birth and the medical treatment i needed in the first year probably cost more then I've ever paid in

Only IF you have earned less than approx £600 in the last 6 months.

So working people on u.c are NOT able to get these as they earn more than that.

You can't just phone and get shit loads of money given to you!