Is a St George cross an underlying sign of passive racism?

I'm a foreigner so feel free to ignore. But to me, if you have your flag on a flagpole and it is being flown "correctly" and with respect to the fla, I don't really think that has racist meaning. But when someone ties a a flag half way up a lamp posts with zip ties, that is sending a message.

Some industrial scale generalisation, unevidenced accusations and righteous sneering against whole swathes of the population here.

There are a variety of reasons for them being put up. Sporting events, national pride etc Some are a protest against the government’s failure to control our borders. That is not racist.

There may be some racists among the group - they are in many groups - the Labour Party and Green Party for example have a particular issue with racist members.

Even Keir Starmer is accusing people of being ‘plastic patriots’ - a grim reference to The Troubles in Ireland. Instead of listening to genuine public concern and securing our borders, he is attacking his own citizens.

To attempt to smear everyone who puts up an English flag as racist is divisive and just serves to inflame the tensions we are currently experiencing.

Agree

The flag itself is not racist but sadly used by many to make racist points. So whilst a person's intention is unknown as to why they might have a flag up it is equally understandable that people feel apprehensive when they see it.

I’m sick of people saying it racist,it’s a sign of being a Christian country!im proud of my country and for being a Christian,dont like it then leave!

It's definitely still a racist thing where I live. Streets full of St Geroge's flags, erected by groups affiliated with Tommy Robinson, mostly in the more working class areas of the city while the most affluent are flag-free.

Plenty of faux outrage on this thread to go around - pol pot!!!!

We did and you called it faux outrage.

Get a grip 🤦‍♀️

I guess you take that up with them not me?

Being wary, is not the same as asserting anyone with the flag is racist, as we have seen in this thread.

I think it’s a tough one but when you drive through places that are full of people who take no pride in themselves or their local area, who allow their houses to fall into disrepair and for their communities to be, frankly, awful, who then put up the cross on roundabouts and electricity units, you know what it’s about.

Lots of faux outrage from those that conveniently forget the historical weaponisation of the flag by groups such as the the National Front and the English Defence League.
‘Operation Raise the Colours’ co-founded by Tommy Robinson and Andrew Currien aka Andy Saxon (haha) - formerly of the EDL and running security for Britain First. Really unpleasant people who stoke violence and division.

So it’s possible to have no problem with the flag but hate the way it has been co-opted by these far right pieces of work - and therefore be a little bit more wary of the intent of those who fly it (and those who defend it with such aggression).

Rage bait from the OP I reckon!

When I see a flagpole I assume the owner is about 75 and white OR a football/rugby supporter. I don't assume racist but they might be a bit.

I don’t know, they may be but also may not be. We are looking to move and one house we are interested in is opposite a house with one and it has put me off a fair bit. My mother was from a European country and I had a lot of of hassle for it growing up so it has made me cautious.

No I don't

Clearly different than flying one flag all the time.

Yes or worse.

@CurlewKate we are not talking about that. The op is talking about a friend who coincidentally was flying a flag near St George’s Day and jumping to the conclusion she is racist.

It gets worse. This organisation are exporting their vile flag of hatred to vulnerable people around the world...

https://donate.redcross.org.uk

Our neighbours have a small side window in their dining room and they have a teddy that sits on the window sill facing out. That teddy has an impressive wardrobe. Dressed like a witch on Halloween, Santa at Christmas etc. Last week in a dress with the English flag. On St George's day. I'm pretty sure they're not racist. She's British but her husband is Antiguan.

But as PP have said, all churches fly the George cross. Our civic buildings also do. Are you saying they are all racists?

It would put me off. Reform voters probably, These flags are often being put up to intimidate ethnic minorities.

Do you think the people who put St George’s Flags on lampposts or paint them on road signs are ever doing it for non racist reasons?