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To think there’s no coming back from these messages between DH and his colleague?

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Queens26 · 28/04/2026 16:43

‘D’H and I haven’t been in a great place for a while but both have said we want to try to make things work. It has mainly been the stress of having a young child and a couple of other big arguments.

I know he is quite friendly with an older colleague (late 40’s, he’s 32) but have grown a bit suspicious for a couple of reasons which meant I have checked his phone. The first time, what I found gave me reason to look again, and I found really (to me) explicit messages.

I don’t believe the colleague is single, but she’s in a very casual relationship which she isn’t happy with and sounds like it has been over for a while.

I think this is the most upsetting exchange, I took photos on my phone so he couldn’t deny things. There are various emojis which I’ve not added in:

Colleague: I feel like we’d have so much fun, you wouldn’t need to complain about a lack of excitement with me:
H: I just feel bored, we never do anything different and it’s the same thing she wants every time
C: I am always up for trying different things
H: I am all ears haha
C: I am open minded, there’s nothing to be ashamed of if two adults on same page
H: Yeah I don’t want anything hardcore just something other than missionary once in a while would be nice
C: What do you class as hardcore?
H: No idea, S&M I guess haha
C: That’s tame
C: Most men want anal
H: Yeah I think I’d get punched if I suggested that at home haha
C: I wouldn’t punch you but my rule is you’d have to be willing to receive for me to agree haha
H: Sounds scary haha
C: I’d be gentle and start small
H: You wasn’t lying when you said your open minded haha
C: That’s what you get with someone experienced

I confronted him last night, he became upset and said he hated himself for sending these and didn’t mean anything by it and that it was a ‘fantasy’ and no more.

I can’t help but think a line has been crossed, I am sure they haven’t done anything physical but for me messages that extreme have to be deemed cheating?

OP posts:
RhaenysRocks · 30/04/2026 06:46

I think the OP was spot on when she said this isn't a soap opera . All these pages of people baying for the guys blood and stating with absolute certainty that he'll do it or worse again and the onlyntjing she can possibly do is leave...real life means thinking about the boring reality of splitting up. What that would mean practically, financially, emotionally, the impact on children. ONLY the op can know if this is a stupid, ill-judged glitch in an otherwise good marriage or something worse. None of our experiences have any bearing on it at all. All she needs to do is take stock, talk to HIM and go from there.

Lugol · 30/04/2026 06:39

tamade · 30/04/2026 01:46

The only reason OP 'has to' do anything is if that thing is essential to realizing her desired outcome.

@Queens26 has an adult decision to make, possibly the first one in her life, I don't count deciding to get married or have kids or a mortgage, things which are packaged up and safe in modern life, I mean the kind where she will have to cut a piece of herself off and grow. Either side of this decision will have consequences and opportunities that she will be living with long after you and I have moved on to the next trending thread.

I don't hope she does anything except OODA. And go on to have a happy healthy life.

I don't know what OODA means but a man that behaves like this isn't worth piss.

I hope she leaves him for dust because he will do this again and it will destroy her mental health.

tamade · 30/04/2026 01:46

Lugol · 29/04/2026 18:20

Why does she have to do anything? He's the one who has cheated.

It's not women's job to fix men.

This is on him and nobody else.

I hope she kicks his skanky arse out.

The only reason OP 'has to' do anything is if that thing is essential to realizing her desired outcome.

@Queens26 has an adult decision to make, possibly the first one in her life, I don't count deciding to get married or have kids or a mortgage, things which are packaged up and safe in modern life, I mean the kind where she will have to cut a piece of herself off and grow. Either side of this decision will have consequences and opportunities that she will be living with long after you and I have moved on to the next trending thread.

I don't hope she does anything except OODA. And go on to have a happy healthy life.

Aiming4Optimistic · 29/04/2026 20:07

I think it's possible to get over cheating and to forgive it. I don't think it's possible to forgive the conversation, the utter betrayal of him telling another woman about your sex life! It's so disrespectful.

Am not buying the 'intimidated' line though. And if it was true - urgh! What a catch he is!

Holidaymodeon · 29/04/2026 18:27

Pair of pigs

Splitfoot · 29/04/2026 18:23

10namechangeslater · 29/04/2026 07:00

I could never sleep with him again so yes it would be over for me.

Exactly. You would be expected either become Anais Nin or stick with the mish.

It's all on the OP of course! Women put up with some shit.

Lugol · 29/04/2026 18:20

tamade · 29/04/2026 08:49

If the relationship doesn't change course something like this will happen again. But IMO it is fixable, it will require work, ground rules, give and take. Hence my remark OP has got to want it.

Why does she have to do anything? He's the one who has cheated.

It's not women's job to fix men.

This is on him and nobody else.

I hope she kicks his skanky arse out.

Doubledenim305 · 29/04/2026 17:54

Queens26 · 29/04/2026 14:35

Where have I said I’ve accepted it? Did you really expect me to have turned my life upside down without consideration. This is real life, not a soap opera for your entertainment!

Absolutely OP..sometimes it is wise just to let things carry on and let time pass and see how it goes. You don't want to rip a whole marriage and life apart because DH has been awful. What he said and did was horrific btw - talking like that and talking about you like that 🤬) absolutely unacceptable.
However life is a long game and maybe just let him be him for a bit longer and see which way the wind is blowing. Always have plans on how to leave it you need to. Maybe this will be a wake up call for him. Maybe it's just how he's gonna live.
Just thoughts. And LTB straight away, in the middle of high emotions, is not ideal. Let the dust settle and watch and make plans in calm.

Charlenedickens · 29/04/2026 17:31

crazeekat · 29/04/2026 17:03

She is a slapper chasing after a married man and he is an idiot for encouraging her. He has really abused your trust and you will need to have proper discussions. First is a block on her number. I personally would let her know I read the messages and have a copy of them, she is well after your man. But he is the worst for going along with it all, talking about ur private life and saying deeply hurtful things about you to her. He is taking the piss big time and I would kick him out.

Edited

What am I even reading, who says slapper. What’s this rhe 1950s`? Good god. Have we not moved away from these dated misogynistic terms. And why let he4 know, why would the woman even give a shit.

KiwiFall · 29/04/2026 17:07

Him not owning this is worse than the texts themselves. As others have said you will never unread what you’ve read and he can’t take back this opinion of your sex life. I’d never feel comfortable and trust in his presence let alone in bed together.but on top to feed you a load of bull to try and justify his messages to her. Stupid idiot.

crazeekat · 29/04/2026 17:03

She is a slapper chasing after a married man and he is an idiot for encouraging her. He has really abused your trust and you will need to have proper discussions. First is a block on her number. I personally would let her know I read the messages and have a copy of them, she is well after your man. But he is the worst for going along with it all, talking about ur private life and saying deeply hurtful things about you to her. He is taking the piss big time and I would kick him out.

outerspacepotato · 29/04/2026 17:02

"I'm scared of her so we sexted about butt sex "

Paraphrasing. On what planet does that fly? 🛸 How did you not laugh at that 🤡

eastegg · 29/04/2026 16:54

Lampzade · 29/04/2026 16:27

OP’s dh is such a bullshitter . He was intimidated.., yeah right.
Op’s dh has made their intimacy public , now she will be left feeling like she has to perform like a Cirque du Soleil acrobat instead of feeling safe with her husband .
Op, your husband is a lying asshole .. excuse the pun

I know right? So intimidated that he chose her to blab to about how boring he finds sex with the OP, and suggest the sort of thing he might like instead. All because he was intimidated you understand. Oh and he feels sorry for her at the same time as feeling intimidated. What a crock of utter BS.

Daisymail · 29/04/2026 16:51

Lampzade · 29/04/2026 16:27

OP’s dh is such a bullshitter . He was intimidated.., yeah right.
Op’s dh has made their intimacy public , now she will be left feeling like she has to perform like a Cirque du Soleil acrobat instead of feeling safe with her husband .
Op, your husband is a lying asshole .. excuse the pun

This!

Paganpentacle · 29/04/2026 16:33

Miranda65 · 28/04/2026 16:49

You checked his phone - that in itself shows that he shouldn't trust you! So there is "fault" on both sides, tbh.

Seriously?
OP isnt the one planning a bum-party with a colleague.

Lampzade · 29/04/2026 16:27

OP’s dh is such a bullshitter . He was intimidated.., yeah right.
Op’s dh has made their intimacy public , now she will be left feeling like she has to perform like a Cirque du Soleil acrobat instead of feeling safe with her husband .
Op, your husband is a lying asshole .. excuse the pun

FreyaFromTheFens · 29/04/2026 15:43

Well he's made his sex life even more boring for himself now as you surely can't ever have sex with him after this! He'll be wishing for missionary rather than getting none.
Sorry Queens, not laughing at your situation but he really has caused this situation by going along with it and then lying and putting the blame on her for leading him on - what a complete turn off for you.

As a previous poster said, you will always have this on your mind when it comes to sex and will feel self conscious through no fault of your own.
He's ruined that side of your relationship without even having sex with someone else, this is enough of a betrayal.

QuintadosMalvados · 29/04/2026 15:29

Apprentice26 · 29/04/2026 09:38

It really does come to something where your main offering to a Male is quite literally the hole in your arse that you’ve shit through
That’s what you’re looking to tempt him away from his wife with
She’s doomed

This has made me laugh.
Keep hearing it in my head in the voice of Private Frazer from Dad's Army.

OP's dh is very much a stupid boy, too. 😁

SpryCat · 29/04/2026 15:01

Queens26 · 29/04/2026 13:49

I don’t want to blame the woman. She must have had signs that my H would have been receptive. This is what I kept saying to him last night. He says that he thinks she mis-judged his friendliness for something more. But it is a huge leap to go from ‘friends’ to having a discussion like that.

How the hell did she misjudge his friendliness when he was telling her you had a boring sex life??

He could have spoke to you and said that since you had given birth he feels you’ve both been taking each other for granted. That he wants to go out on dates and feel as close as you used to be and add some excitement into your sex life! Or he could have said I feel our sex life has become another chore which is normal when you have young children but I miss our closeness and would like to experiment in the bedroom to add some spice.

He should not be putting all the blame on his colleague and bleating about being a victim of sexual harassment! He needs to man up, admit he is in the wrong and asking you to forgive him for discussing you in such derogatory terms. Then he needs to realise a tweak of the nipple, a touch down there to check you are wet and a five second hump doesn’t do it for you. He needs to make the effort too and not expect you to make all the effort!
If I were you I’d dress up as a sexy nurse with nine inch heels, ruby red lips, undress him, get him to bend over and stick a huge dildo up his bum and ask if the chilli you had smeared on the tip of dildo was enough spice for today!

WallaceinAnderland · 29/04/2026 14:42

Queens26 · 29/04/2026 14:35

Where have I said I’ve accepted it? Did you really expect me to have turned my life upside down without consideration. This is real life, not a soap opera for your entertainment!

By talking with him, asking him why he did it, etc. None of it matters. You read it and decided that there was no going back so what you really should be talking about is how the separation is going to work.

By not doing that, it indicates that you are going to accept what he's done and carry on as you were.

Queens26 · 29/04/2026 14:35

WallaceinAnderland · 29/04/2026 14:31

It sounds like you are going to just accept what he's done and carry on then OP. Even though you said there was no coming back from it?

Where have I said I’ve accepted it? Did you really expect me to have turned my life upside down without consideration. This is real life, not a soap opera for your entertainment!

OP posts:
QuintadosMalvados · 29/04/2026 14:35

Sashya · 29/04/2026 14:09

@Queens26

Personally - it seems to me that she is just bored, lonely, etc. Also - older and very relaxed about sex. It's not emotional for her, just hedonistic. And - she is in a very different phase of life than you.

It seems your relationship is going through a very usual struggle of a young(ish) couple with a small child. You are tired, life is a struggle in many ways, so the relationship between you and your H suffers. Very often women shut down physically - I have been there myself, so can relate. Men, on the other hand, do not. And this is where problems often start.

Your H does not sound like he is pursuing her. She is sexually confident, and you'd probably call it aggressive. So - she pushes boundaries. Yes - he has not pushed back, but also did not encourage it. It's sexual bunter - sure. But - it's not at all emotional.

You can divorce, if you think that would make you happier in life.

Or, you can take it as a wake up call for your relationship - and see if you two can't work on it properly. Talk openly, maybe go to family therapy and see if you can change things to make each other happier.

People on MN don't like talking about sexual boredom in a relationship. It shouldn't exist, unless it's a woman who feels bored. But sex is a part of the glue that holds a relationship together. So - if you do stay together and work on it - you'll both need to address the physical intimacy side of things...

See this is the sort of advice that pisses me off.
70% of men cheat for sexual variety - according to the psychologist David Buss.
70%!! Now OK that's not all men but it is the majority!

Generally speaking, men's happiness with their primary relationship has not much to do with whether or not they cheat.

The good news is that us women can be free of blaming ourselves, the bad news is that it's out of our control so all the frigging sexy underwear and date nights, therapy etc make no flipping difference.

The OP has a difficult decision to make: put up with him humiliating her as long as they both live or separate.

I wouldn't judge her on either.

WallaceinAnderland · 29/04/2026 14:31

It sounds like you are going to just accept what he's done and carry on then OP. Even though you said there was no coming back from it?

PeopleLikeColdplayYouCantTrustPeopleJez · 29/04/2026 14:27

In my experience, it’s never the same after you find messages like this.

LiviaDrusillaAugusta · 29/04/2026 14:24

DugnuttEyeBoogies · 29/04/2026 14:23

I said it to the last one and I’ll say it to you ODFOD

Well that’s a well argued point 🤣