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To think MPs shouldn’t be drinking while at work?

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greywildoceans · 28/04/2026 06:44

There’s a big debate going on after new Green MP Hannah Smith has come out and said that you can smell the alcohol on MPs after lunchtime.

https://x.com/politicsjoe_uk/status/2048323140804100487?s=46

Of course all the usual lot are coming out saying it’s a British tradition to drink at work and she’s being “anti British”. I’ve worked in the public sector and the private sector and I have never encountered anyone who thought it was appropriate to drink while working. I’m confident that if anyone did, they’d be fired.

AIBU to say MPs should be banned from drinking while working?

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"You can smell the alcohol when people are in between votes." Green MP Hannah Spencer tells us what Westminster is REALLY like. The full interview is live on YouTube, and as a podcast here: https://t.co/s4mKAc0xku

https://x.com/politicsjoe_uk/status/2048323140804100487?s=46

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zurigo · 28/04/2026 08:08

I totally agree. The days of the 'liquid lunch' are mercifully long gone in other industries, so why are MPs any different? These people are voting to decide our future laws, they should bloody well be sober when they do it!

Ally886 · 28/04/2026 08:06

greywildoceans · 28/04/2026 08:01

This is what I’m saying - NHS managers? Civil servants? Or is it just MPs?

Bankers, insurance brokers, sales people, accountants. I would say half the offices I go into have beer taps in the communal kitchen!

I can guarantee if I hadn't had a drink with clients at lunch over the years I would have been far less successful and made the company far less money.

Should you be pissed? Certainly not
Would a middle aged man turn down a deal because you refused a drink? Yes
Have my most lucrative deals been done with alcohol involved? Mostly

I get it, you're outraged but let's simmer down on the denial it happens, because it does. A lot.

MyballsareSandy2015 · 28/04/2026 08:05

In the 90s we had a subsidised bar on site (civil service) and most people used it.

Times have changed!

AImportantMermaid · 28/04/2026 08:04

millymollymoomoo · 28/04/2026 07:03

It’s perfectly ok to have a drunk at lunchtime

many office workers go out fir lunch and have a drink
same with bankers etc

this woman thinks it’s fine to legalise heroin but terrible to have a drink at lunch. Total lunatic party

😂😂😂 Are you having a drink now or is your autocorrect putting in an extra shift? 😂😂😂

greywildoceans · 28/04/2026 08:01

5to5 · 28/04/2026 07:57

Can a teacher do this? Can a train driver do this?

This is what I’m saying - NHS managers? Civil servants? Or is it just MPs?

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greywildoceans · 28/04/2026 08:01

5to5 · 28/04/2026 07:57

Can a teacher do this? Can a train driver do this?

This is what I’m saying - NHS managers? Civil servants? Or is it just MPs?

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Longtalljosie · 28/04/2026 08:00

Most of the socialising is waiting for a division (vote on an issue). Debates go on for many hours, late into the night. An MP might have been contributing to a debate at 7pm but the vote may not be until 10pm. People argue you should be there for all of it but with a few exceptions on contentious issues, the contributions become extremely repetitive and often parochial (eg something on schools will involve scores of MPs standing up and saying “this issue particularly affects Anytown Primary in my constituency…”. This is the point where MPs waiting for the vote will go to the bar.

Is it ok? It’s not ideal.

5to5 · 28/04/2026 07:57

Can a teacher do this? Can a train driver do this?

Ally886 · 28/04/2026 07:55

greywildoceans · 28/04/2026 06:56

I genuinely can’t even imagine what would happen if I had a pint on my lunch break. I think the immediate sack is the bare minimum.

We go out as a team monthly and a pint is fairly standard with lunch.

Then if I'm away hosting a client, drinks at lunchtime are also the norm

greywildoceans · 28/04/2026 07:52

StillCreatingAName · 28/04/2026 07:47

I miss the 2010s when politicians worked together to try and make the country better, and our biggest political scandal was how Ed Miliband ate a bacon sandwich.

That wasn’t a political scandal, it was the media ‘banter’ deciding it was ok to tear him down.

We need our MPs and the PM to be able get on with the day job, without being harassed on social media, or being called out by colleagues via social media about what they do on their lunch break and what their breath smells of, FFS. If you miss politicians working together, perhaps don’t spend so much time endorsing these attention-seeking types, who are intent on causing disruption and division at Westminster.

You genuinely think it’s okay to get pissed up at work?

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keepswimming38 · 28/04/2026 07:52

Yeah it’s really not appropriate is it? And they know it!

SusanChurchouse · 28/04/2026 07:52

Broadly agree with her, but she could say we should stop kicking puppies and some people would claim she is wrong.

The House of Commons is an extremely anachronistic workplace. Votes can sometimes be very late into the night and, due to the division system, they have to remain onsite to get to the lobbies in time. I don’t think it’s terrible that politicians have a place to socialise out of the public eye, but they should have to follow strict codes of conduct and I agree that they shouldn’t be turning up for business pissed (or high for that matter).

FWIW, a lot of the ‘food subsidies’ are due to the operational hours and costs of running catering at HoP being unsustainable for a business. Essentially they are covering the losses of the catering.

Hopefulsalmon · 28/04/2026 07:51

Whilst I think the Greens have lost the plot, I agree with her on this.
Lunchtime drinking used to be a thing (along with smoking in offices) but times have changed. It shows the HoC and many MPs are out of touch.

StillCreatingAName · 28/04/2026 07:47

I miss the 2010s when politicians worked together to try and make the country better, and our biggest political scandal was how Ed Miliband ate a bacon sandwich.

That wasn’t a political scandal, it was the media ‘banter’ deciding it was ok to tear him down.

We need our MPs and the PM to be able get on with the day job, without being harassed on social media, or being called out by colleagues via social media about what they do on their lunch break and what their breath smells of, FFS. If you miss politicians working together, perhaps don’t spend so much time endorsing these attention-seeking types, who are intent on causing disruption and division at Westminster.

LivingDeadGirlUK · 28/04/2026 07:46

CurdinHenry · 28/04/2026 07:33

Their work hours can be until after midnight.

Mine would be too if there were a series of subsidised bars within my place of work....

Lots of handwringing here and excuse making 'normal to have a drink on Friday lunchtime' and 'we had a pint at lunch time'

She's said people are coming back smelling of alcohol and she hasn't said its just a Friday issue. I work a job where I could have a pint at lunch, but if I came back to the office smelling of alcohol I would be questioned.

Personally these people are paid a lot of tax payers money to do their job, allegedly they work until after midnight, why are we subsidising booze for them? Maybe they could just do their jobs and go to the pub on the weekend like the rest of us?

greywildoceans · 28/04/2026 07:42

IDontHateRainbows · 28/04/2026 07:38

We pay lots of people's salaries doesn't mean we control what they do.

Subsidized bars is wrong tho

It’s not controlling what they do though, is it? They’re free to drink as much as they want while not working. It’s just saying that they should adhere to the same standards the rest of us have to.

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IDontHateRainbows · 28/04/2026 07:38

greywildoceans · 28/04/2026 07:05

Well it is, as we pay their salaries and for their subsidised bars!

We pay lots of people's salaries doesn't mean we control what they do.

Subsidized bars is wrong tho

greywildoceans · 28/04/2026 07:37

CurdinHenry · 28/04/2026 07:34

I think you seem like you have a problem with alcohol.

I don’t, I can go to work without needing to have a drink.

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UrbanFan · 28/04/2026 07:35

They should not be drinking. What industry allows its workforce to drink during working hours these days? Those days are over. No wonder they make so may cock ups.

CurdinHenry · 28/04/2026 07:34

greywildoceans · 28/04/2026 07:34

So? Does that mean night shift workers should get a drink? Maybe doctors on call on a Friday night should be given shots at 2am, because it’s night time of course!

I think you seem like you have a problem with alcohol.

Spaghettea · 28/04/2026 07:34

Yanbu. It would be a disciplinary action in most workplaces. I've not worked anywhere that this would be tolerated for years.

greywildoceans · 28/04/2026 07:34

CurdinHenry · 28/04/2026 07:33

Their work hours can be until after midnight.

So? Does that mean night shift workers should get a drink? Maybe doctors on call on a Friday night should be given shots at 2am, because it’s night time of course!

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CurdinHenry · 28/04/2026 07:34

BunfightBetty · 28/04/2026 07:33

It was absolutely the norm to have a drink at lunchtime when I worked in the city. Especially on a Friday.

I can’t get too worked up about it. A glass of wine at lunchtime isn’t going to affect anything. It isn’t as though they wander into the chamber undecided how to vote anyway, is it. They pretty much all toe the party line and file through the door the whip tells them to.

If somebody were actually drunk or habitually drinking heavily, then yes, that would be an issue. But the odd glass with lunch is neither here nor there.

On balance I wouldn't do it but I agree making a fuss about it is a depressing sign of the times (they 100% have lunch wine in Brussels and lunch beer in the reichstag too).

FalseSpring · 28/04/2026 07:33

It was very normal in my industry as we regularly took clients or contacts out for lunch and always drank a glass or two of wine. However I worked abroad and stopped work about 20 years ago so I imagine things have changed a bit since then although I can't imagine that the practice has entirely died out.

I'm sure that lunchtime drinking must increase the incidence of alcoholism and should not be encouraged. Alcoholism was common amongst professionals and was no doubt a result of the daily drinking culture that prevailed at the time.

I don't think alcohol should be available in the Houses of Parliament because MPs and the Lords should be setting an example to the rest of the country by choosing to restrict drinking during working hours.

CurdinHenry · 28/04/2026 07:33

greywildoceans · 28/04/2026 07:30

If you can’t socialise without alcohol during work hours, you have a drinking problem.

Their work hours can be until after midnight.

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