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AIBU to think poor health in later life is a UK problem?

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BePunnyLilacCrow · 27/04/2026 14:15

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c20q07w3gl9o

I just read an article about healthy life expectancy in the UK, and I find it quite sad that we are basically at the bottom of the list among the world’s richest countries. Even the US is better than the UK on average??

Life expectancy in the UK is:

Men: ~79-80 years
Women: ~83-84 years

BUT

Men spend about 19–20 years in poorer health
Women spend about 22–23 years in poorer health

I know that the UK has relatively good overall life expectancy, but that mainly means we are keeping people alive for longer. Unfortunately, those extra years are often not spent in good health. These facts are not true for wealthier parts of the UK, but even the more affluent areas still tend to have lower healthy life expectancy than many average European countries. I am curious what
people think about the contributing factors? I think:

• Weaker family/social connections (I seriously think this is a big one)
• Obviously diet + high consumption of UPFs
• Low every day
activity (again, loneliness contributes to this esp. for the elderly)

There are many reasons, but in my opinion these contribute a lot. Especially weak social life I see in the UK compared to most countries I’ve lived/been to. For example something as simple as cooking together with people, or for family gatherings etc can have a huge impact on how people eat, because you are encouraged more to home cook food in that way, rather than just get a greasy takeaway or eat out, or just get a rubbish supermarket ready meals most people have etc.

This post is not about judging anyone’s lifestyle choices. But I think we should all be concerned about this because there is no point in living longer if it’s spent in illness. And I’m saying this as someone under 30.

What do you think? How can we improve these measures and live a better life in the UK?

Stock photo shows a person sittting on the floor of a yoga studio while practising meditation with others in the background.

UK healthy life expectancy falls by two years in past decade

Poor housing, obesity and the effects of deprivation have been suggested as underlying cause.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c20q07w3gl9o

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circusrunaways · 27/04/2026 16:42

The French work a 32 hour week - everyone gets an afternoon off for sports. They can claim state pension at 62 - we have to wait until 67 - for far less money too.

68!

mugglewump · 27/04/2026 16:41

Just to make a comparison with our closest neighbours.

The French work a 32 hour week - everyone gets an afternoon off for sports. They can claim state pension at 62 - we have to wait until 67 - for far less money too.
They eat little UPF and are slimmer than us. We eat crap and are overweiight.

Capitalism and neo liberalism are to blame for our poor health. We are worked to the ground, many doing more than 1 job to keep a roof over our heads. We eat processed food because we have no time to cook and our wages and prensions are dismal.

Piggywaspushed · 27/04/2026 16:41

HLE is a standard statistical measure used across all the participating countries for many years. It's a robust survey using, in the UK, ONS statistics.

circusrunaways · 27/04/2026 16:41

It’s interesting that the over 50s are so much unhealthier than previous generations.

TheKittenswithMittens · 27/04/2026 16:40

The healthy generation is dying off. People in their late 80s/90s who lived through the war and despite rationing had better diets than now and developed good habits which they kept up throughout their lives.

They didn't always have a car and took plenty of exercise. My parents were active well into their 80s. I am not sure if I will be.

snowpony · 27/04/2026 16:38

How is a "healthy life" determined? from what I've read about this it is a self reported survey on how people feel "How is your health in general; would you say it was… very good, good, fair, bad, or very bad?". This seems really subjective.

circusrunaways · 27/04/2026 16:38

I think it’s too simplistic to say people don’t want to take accountability.

I have recently had a health scare and my GP have said it’s because i’m stressed. I had no idea I was stressed!

Maia77 · 27/04/2026 16:38

Poor diet, obesity, inequality are the biggest factors. People eat too much UPFs. People of lower socioeconomic status - worse diets, higher smoking rates, more stress, more chronic illness.

Bingowash · 27/04/2026 16:38

StandingDeskDisco · 27/04/2026 16:09

That requires:
Knowing how to cook this kind of stuff.
Buying and using the stuff in time - which requires forward planning. If you are working random shifts at your employer's whim, that broccoli may go off in the fridge before you have the energy to cook it in a meal.

A loaf of Asda white bread is 74p and a tub of marge is 95p. That might be breakfast for a week for a family, but is utter crap.
A frozen pizza is 1.65 and two garlic bread loaves 85p. All carbs and fat, but it will fill the family and be quick and easy, a complete meal in two packets, no need to peel and chop veg, or handle multiple pans and multiple ingredients with fiddly timings to get it all cooked at the same time.

Don't under-estimate the effects of depression and exhaustion.

This is what my mum fed me in the 90s 😭

WiddlinDiddlin · 27/04/2026 16:37

Not a surprise, we have a stripped back health care system that is reactive not pro-active. We have a work culture that prioritises sitting on arses indoors. Dental care is a fucking lottery.

So yes we have the technology to keep people alive longer, but not alive healthily.

BunnyLake · 27/04/2026 16:37

LaurieFairyCake · 27/04/2026 15:13

I’m very surprised at those numbers! That literally says that women of 60 start to suffer poor health and since my two friends ran the Marathon at 64 and 67 for the first time yesterday im blown away

I’m a similar age and I find in the cold, wet, dark months I can’t engage in life properly. I have no energy and just want to slob on the sofa eating cake. Now the sun is out I’m gardening, I’m decluttering, I have renewed zest for life. I feel twenty years younger. I really need to try and manage myself better in the colder, darker months.

LikelyLacking · 27/04/2026 16:36

Flamingojune · 27/04/2026 16:31

And yet people manage it. It's a false eonomy to not priortise your health. Small changes in life style habits can help fit more exercise in etc

Of course people manage it but they’d rather just makes excuses instead - I always worked full time, 3 dc and managed to exercise and cook well for us all. But hey it’s ok, as that report says, things should soon start improving soon thanks to WL drugs! 🤦‍♀️ Let’s not change any of this at ground level, just throw drugs at the problem, and that is the problem, nobody wants to take any accountability for their own health.

Flamingojune · 27/04/2026 16:34

Given the amount of hate on mumsnet towards cyclists and to a lesser extent, runners, it doesn't surprise me the nation's health is in decline

marsbarslice · 27/04/2026 16:33

LaurieFairyCake · 27/04/2026 16:32

People are definitely NOT LAZY. They’re either in poverty or working long hours and/or 2 or 3 jobs to keep afloat.

LONGEST WORKING HOURS IN EUROPE FFS

lol, are you being serious? 😂

wishingonastar101 · 27/04/2026 16:33

All comes down to what we put in our mouths and in our minds.

You eat shit food and doom scroll all day you're literally filling up with crap!

marsbarslice · 27/04/2026 16:32

Bloozie · 27/04/2026 15:58

Who has the time to take care of themselves? I'm trying to do bare minimum exercise at the moment on top of a full time job, and being a mum, wife and daughter. I need y'all to know most urgently that my weekly cardio is the first thing to give.

Who the fuck has time to sow the seeds for healthy later life?

Yes and also economic inequality and UPFs.

And yet lots of people manage it just fine.

Being a "mum, wife and daughter" and working a full-time job doesn't stop you from getting off your backside and going for a walk.

LaurieFairyCake · 27/04/2026 16:32

People are definitely NOT LAZY. They’re either in poverty or working long hours and/or 2 or 3 jobs to keep afloat.

LONGEST WORKING HOURS IN EUROPE FFS

Flamingojune · 27/04/2026 16:31

Bloozie · 27/04/2026 15:58

Who has the time to take care of themselves? I'm trying to do bare minimum exercise at the moment on top of a full time job, and being a mum, wife and daughter. I need y'all to know most urgently that my weekly cardio is the first thing to give.

Who the fuck has time to sow the seeds for healthy later life?

Yes and also economic inequality and UPFs.

And yet people manage it. It's a false eonomy to not priortise your health. Small changes in life style habits can help fit more exercise in etc

LikelyLacking · 27/04/2026 16:31

LaurieFairyCake · 27/04/2026 15:13

I’m very surprised at those numbers! That literally says that women of 60 start to suffer poor health and since my two friends ran the Marathon at 64 and 67 for the first time yesterday im blown away

Yes but what demographic are they in?

marsbarslice · 27/04/2026 16:30

noworklifebalance · 27/04/2026 16:28

I agree - the nhs does a lot of preventative work, a free vaccination programme being one. However, it can’t stop people picking up a cigarette, vaping, making repetitive bad health choices, not exercising, drinking excessively etc.

Exactly. People seem to be massively against taking responsibility for their own health, lives and well-being - they want someone/something else to fix it all for them.

noworklifebalance · 27/04/2026 16:30

Legomania · 27/04/2026 16:26

People do though. Most of the people I know are early middle-aged working parents so have plenty of demands on their time but manage to run before work/swim etc

They (we) are also predominantly middle-class so have the time/WFH jobs/cash for gym memberships etc. So privilege plays a big part.

DH and I are also supportive of allowing each other time to pursue hobbies/exercise

Gym membership is too expensive and not convenient (so would not be used) but we do workouts that are on YouTube

noworklifebalance · 27/04/2026 16:28

marsbarslice · 27/04/2026 16:25

Exactly. And lots of people seem to think they can just rock up to the doctors and get help without doing anything themselves.

This will go down like a sack of shit on here, but the uproar around WLI's not being available to everyone on the NHS is a key sign of how lazy some of us are.

I agree - the nhs does a lot of preventative work, a free vaccination programme being one. However, it can’t stop people picking up a cigarette, vaping, making repetitive bad health choices, not exercising, drinking excessively etc.

Legomania · 27/04/2026 16:26

Bloozie · 27/04/2026 15:58

Who has the time to take care of themselves? I'm trying to do bare minimum exercise at the moment on top of a full time job, and being a mum, wife and daughter. I need y'all to know most urgently that my weekly cardio is the first thing to give.

Who the fuck has time to sow the seeds for healthy later life?

Yes and also economic inequality and UPFs.

People do though. Most of the people I know are early middle-aged working parents so have plenty of demands on their time but manage to run before work/swim etc

They (we) are also predominantly middle-class so have the time/WFH jobs/cash for gym memberships etc. So privilege plays a big part.

DH and I are also supportive of allowing each other time to pursue hobbies/exercise

marsbarslice · 27/04/2026 16:25

Passaggressfedup · 27/04/2026 16:12

The lack of access to good healthcare really doesn't help
We do have excellent healthcare in the UK. The reason why access is a major issue is because of the sheer number of unhealthy people pass 60 years old.

Why so many years unhealthy? Because we are a lazy society which values immediate gratification over delayed benefits.

Exactly. And lots of people seem to think they can just rock up to the doctors and get help without doing anything themselves.

This will go down like a sack of shit on here, but the uproar around WLI's not being available to everyone on the NHS is a key sign of how lazy some of us are.

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