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Son wouldn’t let me use his loo !

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zoovo · 27/04/2026 09:05

I visited my 23 yr old Son over the weekend. I live 2.5hrs from him. Parked on his driveway and we headed straight out to lunch, shops etc. At the end of my visit I said I will use your loo before I leave and he said I couldn’t. Apparently his GF was in his home and she wasn’t ready to meet me due to anxiety. I said I only need a wee, I actually thought he was joking but he wasn’t. I left close to tears that he would do this to me. So I just left. I found a garden centre 25min into my journey home to stop off at. I’m still in disbelief that he treated me this way. I’m really hurt by this. I do have some medical issues at times which mean sometimes I really do need the loo urgently and he knows this. On this occasion it wasn’t to urgent but he didn’t know that. I don’t know how to move forward from this. Am I being unreasonable to feel so upset by this?

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365GelatoDaysAYear · 27/04/2026 21:17

Purpletable · 27/04/2026 21:14

Not sure why you’re linking American sites when it’s more probable that OP is in the UK.

What I meant, however, is that none of us can know how much the GF is at DS’s place. OP has never met her there before and says she has her own apartment. Yet you’re saying she ought morally to have tenant responsibilities? Also moral responsibilities to OP as a quasi-guarantor. You’re questioning if she gets post at the address etc.

Can we just stick to the facts OP has given please? The rest is just a waste of time.

Here is a UK site.
https://www.hiscox.co.uk/landlords-blog/permitted-occupier-guide

Maybe the gf is a controlling user or maybe the son is maltreating her or maybe neither, but if a guarantor and mother is denied access, legal sites from anywhere will help formulate questions about responsibilities.

It is unconscionable to have kept the door locked and reasons need looked into

Permitted occupier guide for landlords

Landlords may have tenants who allow others, such as partners or family members, to live with them in their rental properties. These individuals, known as permitted occupiers, are not official tenants. But what exactly is a permitted occupier? Do they...

https://www.hiscox.co.uk/landlords-blog/permitted-occupier-guide

Purpletable · 27/04/2026 21:16

ForeverTheOptomist · 27/04/2026 20:51

Hi @Purpletable She did indeed say that in her post earlier!

I always give plenty of notice of when I’m visiting and in the past his GF has stayed at her home until I’ve gone.

Edit - her post at 9.45am

Edited

Yes, she stayed at her own home. She wasn’t at DS’s place. She has her own apartment.

365GelatoDaysAYear · 27/04/2026 21:14

Blimms · 27/04/2026 21:12

If you are trying to imply I am stubborn why not just say that?

I guess you haven't read it.
There is a situation with not letting someone in.
Can you return to OP's concerns and stop personally attacking me?

Purpletable · 27/04/2026 21:14

Not sure why you’re linking American sites when it’s more probable that OP is in the UK.

What I meant, however, is that none of us can know how much the GF is at DS’s place. OP has never met her there before and says she has her own apartment. Yet you’re saying she ought morally to have tenant responsibilities? Also moral responsibilities to OP as a quasi-guarantor. You’re questioning if she gets post at the address etc.

Can we just stick to the facts OP has given please? The rest is just a waste of time.

Blimms · 27/04/2026 21:12

365GelatoDaysAYear · 27/04/2026 21:10

Have you read Thomas Hardy's Return of the Native?

What do you think about Mrs Yeobright?

If you are trying to imply I am stubborn why not just say that?

365GelatoDaysAYear · 27/04/2026 21:12

Blimms · 27/04/2026 21:11

I would recommend reading the things you keep linking to. Both have disproven your points.

No. You are quite desperate to ignore law, nuance, and moral obligation. Trumpian times.

Something is very off in this situation.

Blimms · 27/04/2026 21:11

365GelatoDaysAYear · 27/04/2026 21:08

How much time does (invisible) gf spend in the house? If she is verging on being a permitted occupier rather than an occasional guest, she would be expected to help maintain the property.
https://www.hiscox.co.uk/landlords-blog/permitted-occupier-guide

I would recommend reading the things you keep linking to. Both have disproven your points.

365GelatoDaysAYear · 27/04/2026 21:10

Blimms · 27/04/2026 21:09

I see you’ve run out of any mature points to make.

Have you read Thomas Hardy's Return of the Native?

What do you think about Mrs Yeobright?

Blimms · 27/04/2026 21:09

365GelatoDaysAYear · 27/04/2026 21:06

Hello gf

I see you’ve run out of any mature points to make.

Witchonenowbob · 27/04/2026 21:07

Katmandu78 · 27/04/2026 21:04

So hes 23, I think it may have thrown him when you said you wanted to come in and rather than him thinking logically, thats when panic mode set in and he stood his ground and stuck to the plan to, in his eyes protect his GF, commendable, many wouldn't. Did you say anything like, gosh I'm really desperate due to X medical reason, would you please ask GF if I can use the loo quickly, she absolutely doesn't have to meet me? Was there any logical discussion rather than "are you joking" Did you ask where the next nearest loo was?
My FIL is absolutely not allowed across my threshold, when my DH drove him to an appt recently, he was dropped at our driveway as a half way point, (2.5hr total drive)my husband had already said if he needs the loo he or SIL would take him to the local garage/costa.
If you say he is struggling with his GF, and you and he have a good relationship otherwise, I wouldn't let this fester, sounds like possibly a simple moment of panic trying to look after his GF, he couldn't think fast enough.

Why would the son know where the nearest loo
was? He’d use the one in his house?

He knows about his mother’s medical situation, he should not need reminding!

Poodlelove · 27/04/2026 21:06

Maybe the toilet was filthy dirty and he used his girlfriend as an excuse.

365GelatoDaysAYear · 27/04/2026 21:06

Blimms · 27/04/2026 21:04

The GF isn’t benefitting from the house because she doesn’t live there.

The GF didn’t deny OP access, the son did.

The GF has no legal or moral responsibility to the OP.

Hello gf

Katmandu78 · 27/04/2026 21:04

So hes 23, I think it may have thrown him when you said you wanted to come in and rather than him thinking logically, thats when panic mode set in and he stood his ground and stuck to the plan to, in his eyes protect his GF, commendable, many wouldn't. Did you say anything like, gosh I'm really desperate due to X medical reason, would you please ask GF if I can use the loo quickly, she absolutely doesn't have to meet me? Was there any logical discussion rather than "are you joking" Did you ask where the next nearest loo was?
My FIL is absolutely not allowed across my threshold, when my DH drove him to an appt recently, he was dropped at our driveway as a half way point, (2.5hr total drive)my husband had already said if he needs the loo he or SIL would take him to the local garage/costa.
If you say he is struggling with his GF, and you and he have a good relationship otherwise, I wouldn't let this fester, sounds like possibly a simple moment of panic trying to look after his GF, he couldn't think fast enough.

Blimms · 27/04/2026 21:04

365GelatoDaysAYear · 27/04/2026 21:00

Yes! Cba to look up UK law. Which is more lenient. But things like where post goes etc count.

There is also the moral question of how gf behaves as a unit with son, benefiting from house and denying access.

Edited

The GF isn’t benefitting from the house because she doesn’t live there.

The GF didn’t deny OP access, the son did.

The GF has no legal or moral responsibility to the OP.

365GelatoDaysAYear · 27/04/2026 21:00

Blimms · 27/04/2026 20:56

That’s for US rentals!

Yes! Cba to look up UK law. Which is more lenient. But things like where post goes etc count.

There is also the moral question of how gf behaves as a unit with son, benefiting from house and denying access.

Blimms · 27/04/2026 20:56

That’s for US rentals!

Zov · 27/04/2026 20:54

HeadDeskHeadDesk · 27/04/2026 20:30

I'm getting thoroughly sick to death of people prefacing absolutely every issue with 'I suffer from anxiety' or 'my child suffers from anxiety' I'll be honest. It's getting to the stage where everytime I hear 'I have anxiety' I say to myself 'Who doesn't?'

What with that, autism and ADHD they seem to be more catching than the common cold.

Edited

Agree with this too.

Zov · 27/04/2026 20:52

NothingHereAnymore · 27/04/2026 13:11

Exactly, but you will be shot down in flames for saying this!
We have gone too far with the 'mental health' obsession in this country. We are producing generations that cannot or will not cope with the most basic necessities of life🙄
Yes, some people have genuine anxiety but the majority feel* *a normal feeling known as nervousness. We do not need to bow and scrape and walk on egg shells around every nervous adult!!

I have to agree.

ForeverTheOptomist · 27/04/2026 20:51

Purpletable · 27/04/2026 20:02

You've said that you've visited before when she's been there but haven't gone in, so this isn't the first time that you may have potentially met her.

I don’t think OP said that? She said her son’s GF stayed at her own home when she visited his house before.

Hi @Purpletable She did indeed say that in her post earlier!

I always give plenty of notice of when I’m visiting and in the past his GF has stayed at her home until I’ve gone.

Edit - her post at 9.45am

PeacockMonster · 27/04/2026 20:49

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365GelatoDaysAYear · 27/04/2026 20:46

Purpletable · 27/04/2026 20:39

Again with the making up your own version of events 😂

No :) https://www.apartments.com/rental-manager/resources/leases/when-does-guest-become-tenant-rental-home

365GelatoDaysAYear · 27/04/2026 20:44

Witchonenowbob · 27/04/2026 20:38

It’s wrong to deny any parent the use of a toilet, DH uses the toilet a lot more than me!

Any parent, yes. But there can be particular urgencies for women!
TMI I am dealing with menstrual flooding and this story hits hard.

Purpletable · 27/04/2026 20:39

365GelatoDaysAYear · 27/04/2026 20:34

In English law more so than US law, but it still has to be 'occasional use'. Getting post delivered there etc. would change things.

Again with the making up your own version of events 😂

Witchonenowbob · 27/04/2026 20:38

365GelatoDaysAYear · 27/04/2026 20:01

It is really cruel to deny women the loo if they are in peri or older, or pregnant, or ever had a difficult pregnancy, as there can be all sorts of issues.

The son sounds problematic. A hidden 'anxious' girlfriend, filthy house, and now this.

It’s wrong to deny any parent the use of a toilet, DH uses the toilet a lot more than me!

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