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why is it hard to like other people’s boy children

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Halfmunch · 26/04/2026 10:00

I am a mother to girls, and have no brothers and I admit I don’t have much experience of raising or being around boys. The boys in my life I can find them overwhelming, frustrating and to be honest, self centred and lazy.

However, I am wondering if this is related to how people parent the boys, and a patriarchal society rather than the boys - as in it’s not their fault, they were not born this way. Is this something other parents have noticed, like Little Prince Syndrome?

My husband has a 12yo son and even after 5 years I struggle to bond with him. I have 2 x 9yo nephews and I also struggle with them. All 3 kids have different parents.

The boys are all overbearing in conversations - yell and talk over everyone else and already at their age ?!? mansplain and refuse to accept explanations or answers, challenging everything, ie. They all seem to ‘know better’ when a female answers a question and all have very singular topics they are only interested in, not interested in other people really. Step son is obsessed with football, so everything you do has to centre around that, and if it doesn’t, he’s completely disinterested in anything else and just mopes about.

I notice the boys all seem to opt out of clearing up, after a meal finished they will return to either talking about their chosen topic without noticing everyone else is clearing up, or go do their own activity, and have to be asked/reminded to do even minor tasks such as take a plate to the kitchen. I often watch them at family parties and while everyone else is pitching in, they have wandered off kicking a ball around quietly and when asked to help ‘oh I didn’t realise…’ however if it’s something slightly dangerous, they will barge in and get in your way even if you don’t want them to help they feel entitled to ‘help’ like SS demanding to be allowed to ‘light the BBQ’ unsupervised

They are nice boys, but I often read posts on here about people’s useless husbands, and think hmm well, there seems to be an awful lot of these males around… and it probably starts young!

My DH often feels frustrated as he’s very much an equal partner with a female, and believes in equality. He feel like he’s always nagging his son to try to get him to learn about life but many females seem to enable this! DH’s mum acts like SS is made of china, and my mum is the same with my nephew.

Is there a way we can tackle this as society?

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TheignT · 26/04/2026 10:37

Because you're sexist.

Loulou4022 · 26/04/2026 10:37

I feel this may be a you problem?
I have a great relationship with my nephew, my cousins boy and the 40 odd boys I come into contact with at work each day.

bigfacthunter · 26/04/2026 10:36

I can’t comment on the boys in your life, I have a few in mine and they’re mostly pretty sweet nice kids. I will say that I know a lot of adult women in relationships with men who have turned out to be pretty toxic partners (I’d say half of them, other half wonderful so it’s defo not all men) and I do wonder at what point the learned narcissism begins. It probably didn’t start at 40 or 30 or 20, I’d assume there’s something in the way that half of society parents boys. It probably starts very young so maybe you’re on to something!

Livelaughlurgy · 26/04/2026 10:36

I know a lot of girls who are similar to how you describe these boys. However I will say that I know more girls who have been taught to be compliant, fit in, behave nicely, make themselves smaller and quieter than I know boys who've been taught that.

CountFucula · 26/04/2026 10:36

I am a teacher and see approx 100 boys daily. They are a mix of funny, kind, friendly and annoying. Just like the girls. If the boys in the home environment are being boorish and annoying then call it out. Also, reflect on the possibility that you’re raising meek girls so the contrast is jarring….

Bertiebiscuit · 26/04/2026 10:36

mumof5five · 26/04/2026 10:32

Misandryst.

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Ohjailer · 26/04/2026 10:35

All this post did was make me feel desperately sad for your stepson. Poor kid. A step mum who dislikes him and a father who married, and stays married, to a woman who dislikes his child.

MysticHalfWitch · 26/04/2026 10:35

Well my 12 year old boy cleans his room,
clears the table, actively asks to help and isn’t overbearing. I personally think he’s one of the most tremendous people I know

zingally · 26/04/2026 10:35

It sounds like you just don't like THESE particular boys very much.

If you haven't managed to bond with SS after 5 years, I suspect he's long since picked up on your dislike, and I'd imagine the feelings are mutual by this point.

In my experience as a primary school teacher, I'd actually say that boys are the easier and more naturally likeable sex. Especially in the 9-11 demographic, but all the way through really. I think there's some truth in the saying that boys are simple creatures compared to girls, who I personally find to be much more complex and difficult.

Lobelia123 · 26/04/2026 10:34

Dont be ridiculous, coming online with a goady post citing an encycolepaedic knowledge of exactly three children, to make sweeping statements. Intellectually lazy and now getting pious and defensive citing the patriarchy instead of recignising how extremely lightweight and silly your position is - at least the way you have framed it in your posts on this thread,

blankcanvas3 · 26/04/2026 10:33

Catch yourself on

Alittlefrustrated · 26/04/2026 10:33

I have a 15 yr old son, and had a lot of contact with his friends in primary school. They were all very different personalities to be honest.
Currently I volunteer with primary age boys and girls. Again, they are all very different. Some boys and girls are a joy - some not so much!

mumof5five · 26/04/2026 10:32

Misandryst.

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Holesinmesocks · 26/04/2026 10:31

Some kids of either sex are entitled like their entitled parents.
If a dad is a total twat towards his partner and d his sons are learning that behaviour just as the d are learning that men and boys are 'in charge'.
I have boys and girls and all are respectful of the opposite sex because that is how they were raised to be decent law abiding citizens.

Halfmunch · 26/04/2026 10:31

I’m very glad to hear that I have completely imagined a patriarchal society and it doesn’t exist so there is no need to ever talk about it. Brilliant news. Let’s celebrate 🥳

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WhereDoIBeginTo · 26/04/2026 10:29

Halfmunch · 26/04/2026 10:26

Yeah I just see it that the girls get up to help on autopilot as they get older, and the boys don’t seem to notice. My sister wouldn’t expect my nephew to do half the stuff she expects of the girls

The exact opposite happens in our house. My son is helpful and shows love through acts of service. My dad is the same.

My daughters are so, so lazy and whine and moan if asked to lift a finger and then don't do anything even when disciplined. It's an ongoing battle.

Sidebeforeself · 26/04/2026 10:29

ScarlettOYara · 26/04/2026 10:12

I particularly like the last sentence:
"Is there anyway we can tackle this as a society?"

I laughed at that too. Something Must Be Done.

Utopiaqueen · 26/04/2026 10:29

maudelovesharold · 26/04/2026 10:09

If I started a thread about all the whiny, whingy, self-centred, brattish girls I’ve come across, and how my ds are much more straightforward, nicer, more pleasant human beings to be around, I wonder how that would be received?
I know the op is being deliberately goady, but nevertheless, I feel moved to comment in case someone reads it and actually agrees!

Edited

I was going to say the same. I've got a boy and I'm not saying this as their mum but he's regularly commented on how pleasant he is. I love spending time with his little boy friends too. I've met brattish, unsuffereable girls as well!

There seems so much hatred for all men and boys from quite a significant section on mumsnet. You see the ones, sobbing when they find out they're having a boy or a second boy that they'll never have a daughter and "little bestie". I genuinely wonder how many of them manage to procreate in the first place given their views on men.

Your DH was a boy once. And your daughters will probably end up in relationship with men and this may lead to grandchildren in the future. So it may be worth reassessing your views on boys OP.

EwwPeople · 26/04/2026 10:28

Halfmunch · 26/04/2026 10:18

My SS has likely a good chance of maturing but my nephew (brought up by my sister) is truly a little prince and beyond help. I won’t babysit him anymore. His dad is completely hands off and he’s just copying the same so they both have all the females running around after them - I refuse to do this; so I do clash with the expectation that I’m put on this earth to serve men.

Whilst we still have such awful high rates of male violence towards women I am not sure it’s much of a shock that this might be related to parenting and living in a patriarchal society I just don’t think people like to hear it. It’s not like things are getting better for women. Do we not now have incels and red pill?

I made this post after having one of those weekends that’s made me and DH frustrated. I’m mooching onto MN reading about other people’s useless selfish husbands. I think it must be hard to raise boys especially if you don’t have good male role models

Ask yourself this. Would they really have different parenting if they were girls? Some parents are just shit or baby/pander to their kids too much.

travelq · 26/04/2026 10:28

Have you ever considered if you fail to like ANY boys then maybe you’re the issue OP?

Ubugly · 26/04/2026 10:28

My friends who have got a boy and a girl often say the girl is much harder work.

No experience as only have one lovely son.

WhereDoIBeginTo · 26/04/2026 10:28

Yes we need to tackle misogynistic behaviour as a society. Stating that you don't like boys is really not the way to go about that. It's the opposite. Seeing the best in boys and encouraging and supporting them to be wonderful men is an excellent way to do it.

The men and boys in my life are amazing. They are all different of course but generally gentle, helpful, straightforward, calm, capable.

My son is an incredibly sweet and fun child, and his group of friends are all absolutely lovely kids. They make me hopeful for the future of men, and therefore women.

LoveYouPickle · 26/04/2026 10:27

Oh give over