AIBU to think the Scott Mills and Savile comparison is unfair?

Certainly doesn’t see to be anywhere near the Saville level, I’m not sure Harris was anywhere near as bad as him either

Well Mills is a perv. He's been investigated by the police and the BBC's investigation has obviously found enough that they've sacked him.

Schofield was found to be a perv too. As his story broke his brother had just been locked up for child sex offences so that didn't help his 'public image' when his own misconduct with a young partner came out.

If they don't want to be called pervs then they shouldn't have done it!

They are all different,
Saville was a paedophile in the true sense of the word, he was sexually interested in pre pubescent children and acted upon this many times.
Schofield has a preference for young but post-pubescent boys or young men and from what I can tell (much of it here say mind) it was a pattern with him not a one off incident.
I've not seen anything suggesting it was ongoing or a pattern of behaviour from Mills, we only know about one occasion when he was 22/23 but perhaps that's still to come out.
These are all bad crimes, but I would not say they are the same degree of severity.

Agree that men know how old you are, even if you say youre 16

They just calculate the risk to them if they break the law. Truly awful

We don’t know what Scott Mills did. While I like him, it must have been pretty bad to fire him like that…

I know that Scott Mills started in hospital radio so like Saville probably had access to vulnerable patients and the morgue. Haven’t heard what he actually did though? Just that it was something with a boy under 16 (which is awful of course).

I don’t know the full story about Scott Mills, but it was a “known secret” that Savile had sex with dead bodies as well as very vulnerable hospital patients when I worked for the BBC as a new graduate in 1999. I think Mills would have to go some to be in that league of depravity.

I'm sorry that happened to you, but even if he thought you were legal age he probably would have known you were quite young,so that's on him in my opinion maybe that's just my distorted view of men beacuse of my childhood, even though I'm a man myself my relationship with men is still not great, so in a situation like you original post I tend to put them all in one category, maybe it's something I need to work on.

How old was he?

A pervert is a pervert is a pervert. HTH.

There are so many gay men who had relationships with very young gay boys and should have known better. It seems to have been tolerated, seen as acceptable, for far longer than it has for straight relationships.

Yes sadly his depravity plumbed the very depths of anyone's worst nightmares and was prolific. Although of course we don't know the full facts about Scott Mills, it doesn't appear that he's spent his life raping children in psychiatric hospitals or on their death beds, or indeed having sex with corpses.

Thank you, I've had a lot of intestine therapy over the years I'm in much better situation now than I was but it will never go away, but life is much more manageable for me now then it was 20 years ago.

I agree, and it should be zero. I hope you're ok.

Any offence against a child is absolutely sickening doesn't matter if your 22 or 52 male or female the results are always the same a lifetime of trauma I speak from personal experience

Sex with Corpses? Oh my goodness I didn't know that. This guy was a psycho for sure. I'd rank him with Shipman, Sutcliffe and the rest. He's also responsible for deaths of people who killed themselves after he interfered with them.

I agree the only level of abuse is zero. I know nothing about Phil Schofield as I only ever saw him on Dancing on Ice. I agree with the OP about Scott Mills based on what we know already. More will come out, I expect, if there is more.

Not 2000, 2001 (when the age of consent for gay men was equalised/moved to 16). Also explains the timeline.
It used to be 21. Only moved to 18 in 1994.
Heterosexual was 16 from 1885, 13 before then.
There is little consistency across countries or even states within countries.
As I said, I think it should be raised globally.
That, however, will not stop predation.

Attitudes to CSA have changed dramatically the last few years. Rightly, and understandably.

And the scale of CSA has become horrifyingly clearer.

But what comes with that is a tendency to judge the past with today's understanding and attitudes when they can't apply retrospectively.

It doesn't mean that whatever SM did in his early 20s is okay, but this tendency to lump everyone into a group of Saville-like paedophiles isn't helpful or appropriate.

Obviously no abuse is acceptable and we don't know the full Scott Mills' story. But Jimmy Saville was (to date) the most prolific sexual abuser in the UK by far. He spent his entire life in the pursuit of utter depravity. Including the rape of severely disabled/vulnerable adults and children usually within specialist hospitals, psychiatric facilities and children's homes. He also regularly had sex with corpses in Leeds General Infirmary morgue. His victims ranged from 3 to 75 years old with an estimate of 600 individuals having been abused, although it was probably much, much higher.

Well we don't know what it is he's supposed to have done. I understand there was some kind of sexual correspondence/relationship with someone underage twenty odd years ago. But it was brought to attention of the police around 2019? If he's found to have committed a sexual crime against a kid then he's of a similar ilk to Saville. But he hasn't as yet so that comparison does seem premature.

I understand he seems nicer, more charismatic and attractive than Savile ever was. But we don't know enough to say if he's done anything or not.

Phil Schofield situation was deemed worse because the runner had hero-worshipped him/ was his mentee-protogee/had contacted him from an earlier age. There was definitely a conflict of interests there and a power dynamic that was more than unwise.
You also have to consider the alcohol/drug culture in TV/DJing that makes the young more vulnerable in such situations, although I am not saying this was the case with either PS or SM as we only know what has been put into the public domain.
Scott Mills' alleged offences took place 97-2000(?) In a cultural context, 1999's Queer as Folk was actively celebrating a sexually empowered/liberated 15 year old exploring Canal Street. Everyone was lapping up that show.
It might well be the case that a young man at the time would not see himself as groomed/exploited until much later. Certainly, I was sexually active at 15 (no age gap/consensual/straight) but looking back, in hindsight, I was far too young to be doing that and I was vulnerable/seeking validation. Whilst there was no explicit pressure I think with a different bf I would not have been in that situation (whilst we were the same age my first already had experience, so there was an expectation there. I was just too young to see it).
The age of consent for gay men was not changed to that of heterosexuals until 2000.
Many gay men following the shadow of the AIDS era were finally having sex again with the advent of anti retrovirals.
That's before you get into subcultures twinks, bears etc and the protection of young men needed, that a pp in Brighton was alluding to.
That in itself is always difficult to discuss because nobody wants to mislabel gay as predatory.
Certainly, when I was at school, many friends of mine at fifteen had much older boyfriends and people weren't raising an eyebrow. I think that's why I felt 'safer' with a bf the same age but still ended up in a sexual relationship too early, looking back, glory of hindsight etc
I'd like to say things are different now but I think many of our young people, whilst they are much more aware of age gaps and will call out any gap as nonce territory, I do think there are pressures to look a certain way and perform acts taken from the porn culture.
Do I think Scott Mills at 23 should have known better, if he has been with someone much younger? Yes.
Do I think the same for Russell Brand and Philip Schofield? Yes and yes.
I actually think the age of consent for all sexes and sexualities should be consistent across the globe and increased.
Do I believe in cancel culture, NDAs and the like?
Cancel culture = court of public opinion.
Cancellation is a moral judgement.
Arrest is a legal one.
I believe in due process.
Innocent until found guilty in a court of law.
However, given the rate of successful prosecutions for rape and sexual abuse, I can see how a 'fall from grace' may be perceived as a justice of sorts.
Sadly with Saville, his victims never got that within his lifetime.

@Bbq1 wrongly or rightly probably due to him being known for being horrible/hard to work with