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AIBU to refuse a council house over stairs and no outside space?

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Stressedmum6761 · 25/04/2026 12:34

Hi, I really need some advice on what to do here please I've been crying all morning and scouring the Internet. I'm on the council housing list, have been for 3 years now because of the state of my current ground floor flat. The council came out to do a review and put my banding up.

I got a call yesterday out of the blue to view a house I bid on before Christmas and was 47th in the queue so didn't think I would have any chance. The woman said it has a small yard and a downstairs bathroom. My daughter is 6 and I'm so so scared she's going to fall down the stairs in the night time to use the toilet, she sleepwalks and is currently on the pathway for ASD, when she goes to the loo in the flat I have to battle to steer her back to bed or she's wandering about on her own for god knows how long.

I've also been to look at the house through the windows and it 100% does not have a yard as the lady said as the bathroom has been built on as an extension downstairs. I know this sounds so ungrateful but I don't want us moving from bad to worse, our current flat has a tiny little yard that I've managed to squeeze a bench and a mini greenhouse into so my daughter at least has somewhere she can sit outside when she's had a meltdown or needs to regulate herself.

I'm so worried if I turn this down by saying I'm worrying about the stairs at night I'll be taken down a band. Has anyone successfully turned down a property for safety concerns and not been penalised? Thank you 😊

OP posts:
AyeDeadOn · 25/04/2026 14:34

Commode and stair gate solves that problem. So...can you live without a yard? Is there a park nearby? Is there a front yard at all? How likely is it that you will be allocated something with a yard in an area you can accept? Given you were so far down the list for this one. How badly do you want to move?

HipsterHighStreet · 25/04/2026 14:34

Pigletin · 25/04/2026 14:07

OP it sounds to me that you are being a bit precious. At the end of the day, it’s secure council housing for you and child to feel safe in. I don’t understand why you are crying. There are adjustments that can be easily made to make sure your daughter doesn’t fall down the stairs. Most people with young kids do exactly what you are doing when they have a sleep walker, it’s not unusual and it’s not something that’s the end of the world, it’s just normal parenting. You haven’t even seen the property but you have been crying all morning. It might be a good idea to pull yourself together and go see it before you make a decision.

I’m not the OP but I can easily imagine why she might be crying. Decisions can be hard, and some people find them especially hard. I’m guessing that OP just isn’t sure what to do for the best. It feels like such an enormous responsibility.

That said, I agree that it’s ultimately not that big a deal and OP should definitely go and have a look at the place. I suspect it’s just all a bit overwhelming at times.

Abso · 25/04/2026 14:34

pinkdelight · 25/04/2026 14:29

If the bathroom has been built on as an extension in the outside space, it stands to reason that there was previously an inside bathroom, so there must be plumbing for a loo upstairs even if there isn't one currently. If you can make a case for it, you could get a loo upstairs reinstated. If you can't make a case for it, then you can use one the alternative solutions suggested here. It's not a big deal. Nor is the outside space - if a yard has had an extension built into it, there's likely still some space around it. I've never seen an extension completely eat up what used to be a house's outside space. And even if it has, there must be some space outside even if it doesn't belong to your house - or space inside which you can make safe and nice for meltdowns. You're really being negative for no reason. Dry your eyes, go and see it and see what the possibilities are.

That depends. Our council/ almo has bought several Victorian houses as social housing stock and they never had upstairs bathrooms. Not all council housing is purpose built.

OP, it depends on the rules of your council as to whether refusal will affect your eligibility, you need to ask.

Abso · 25/04/2026 14:31

Jollyjupiter · 25/04/2026 12:50

Why would you put your daughter outside if she is having a meltdown? Great way to piss off your neighbours!

Edited

Not all meltdowns are loud.

RedTagAlan · 25/04/2026 14:30

A house will have stairs no matter where the bathroom is. Even if it has a bathroom upstairs and a toilet downstairs, it will still have stairs.

If it was your perfect house, you still have to deal with the stairs. Just do what you would do then ?

pinkdelight · 25/04/2026 14:29

If the bathroom has been built on as an extension in the outside space, it stands to reason that there was previously an inside bathroom, so there must be plumbing for a loo upstairs even if there isn't one currently. If you can make a case for it, you could get a loo upstairs reinstated. If you can't make a case for it, then you can use one the alternative solutions suggested here. It's not a big deal. Nor is the outside space - if a yard has had an extension built into it, there's likely still some space around it. I've never seen an extension completely eat up what used to be a house's outside space. And even if it has, there must be some space outside even if it doesn't belong to your house - or space inside which you can make safe and nice for meltdowns. You're really being negative for no reason. Dry your eyes, go and see it and see what the possibilities are.

twilightermummy · 25/04/2026 14:29

You could just potentially be getting a cold feet because you're scared of the unknown and something new.
I almost turned down the opportunity to move to a 3 bed house from a 2 bed second floor flat, with 3 children because I was comfortable and had made it work. This was despite me being absolutely desperate to have a bedroom and not sleep in the living room!
Thankfully I saw sense. You really should take it. In our area you get 1 refusal.

mumofoneAloneandwell · 25/04/2026 14:26

Check out the rules, I think you have three chances x

likelysuspect · 25/04/2026 14:25

Butterme · 25/04/2026 14:22

Even though it’s worse than her current property?

Its not 'worse', she says it doesnt have a garden. She has disbelieved the woman who told her there was a yard by looking through the windows.

If its worse then she can stay where she is.

You know millions of people live in apartments abroad with no outside space, many also do in this country too. Not ideal, but fine.

Tablesandchairs23 · 25/04/2026 14:25

Butterme · 25/04/2026 14:22

Even though it’s worse than her current property?

Because it has stairs.

Butterme · 25/04/2026 14:22

Tablesandchairs23 · 25/04/2026 14:14

You'd be mad to turn it down. Being offered a property is gold dust. You'll likely to go down on the housing list. You can't afford to be choosy.

Even though it’s worse than her current property?

Butterme · 25/04/2026 14:21

It depends on the rules of your LA.

When I was on it, the band I was on meant that I could turn 1 or 2 properties but those higher than me could not turn them down.

You have to be very careful about what you bid on.

What did the advert say?
If they try and put you down a band then you could argue that it said something different in the advert.

Obviously beggars can’t be choosers but no one would blame you for not taking a property that is worse than your current one.

x2boys · 25/04/2026 14:21

tara66 · 25/04/2026 13:56

You should move in and try it out for 6 months rather than just declining it immediately. If it is not suitable you inform Council with details of why you need to move and dates of anything that happened re. child - you will then be in the ''system'' and show you are cooperative.

Depending on the council and availibilty of suitable housing, being in system doesnt gurantee a quick move it could take years .

TheZanyScroller · 25/04/2026 14:18

With social housing you will need tontake ehat is offered and make dome adjustments. A garden is not a priority. There will be a lot of families in accommodation ththat doesn't tick all of their boxes. Social housing is affordable and much cheaper than renting privately.

If your daughter sleep walks are you not vigilant in the night anyway? What difference would it make if she needs to go to the toilet in the night if you'you're most likely awake.

If your current accommodation isn't fit got purpose and you need to move then you will need to get on with it.

As OPs have suggested, you could use a stair gate to stop your daughter going downstairs.

I do think you could teach your daughter some more independence on using the stairs. Keep a light on all night. Kids with ADHD aren't stupid. They can learn. Just repeat what she needs to do and show her.

Tablesandchairs23 · 25/04/2026 14:14

You'd be mad to turn it down. Being offered a property is gold dust. You'll likely to go down on the housing list. You can't afford to be choosy.

Blushingm · 25/04/2026 14:14

Zov · 25/04/2026 13:21

I'm amazed that 46 other people turned it down! Also, it was not a good idea to bid on something you definitely didn't want @Stressedmum6761 !!!

You are where you are now though. If you really feel you can't take it, then explain this to the council. Tell them what you've told us here. They're not monsters and they will understand. They will ask why you bid on this property, so just say you did it in haste, as you really need a move, and you didn't realise it wasn't suitable for x, y, and z reasons, and you didn't remove your bid as you were almost No. 50 in the queue and thought you had no chance! I am sure they will let you remain where you are on the list.

Good luck! I hope you get your dream (social housing) home soon! Flowers

46 other people won’t have turned it down

Rubyeagle · 25/04/2026 14:11

I lived in a house with a downstairs bathroom and my parents never worried about us falling down the stairs!
As a child I often went down on my bum, was fun. The only time I ever fell was missing the bottom step! Which I still do as an adult!
My parents still live in the same house and they have a commode chair. As they are late 80’s!

likelysuspect · 25/04/2026 14:10

5128gap · 25/04/2026 14:01

No one in the right mind should choose the security of the roof over their head to be dependent on the whim of a private landlord, and pay much more for the privilege, if they had the option of a secure affordable SH tenancy. It would have to be an appalling council offer for this advice to be in the OPs interests.

That is the point the poster is making. I made the same point

The offer clearly is not appalling, it just has a downstairs bathroom and probably a tiny yard. Like countless properties up and down the country that people are very happy in and manage perfectly well.

Pigletin · 25/04/2026 14:07

OP it sounds to me that you are being a bit precious. At the end of the day, it’s secure council housing for you and child to feel safe in. I don’t understand why you are crying. There are adjustments that can be easily made to make sure your daughter doesn’t fall down the stairs. Most people with young kids do exactly what you are doing when they have a sleep walker, it’s not unusual and it’s not something that’s the end of the world, it’s just normal parenting. You haven’t even seen the property but you have been crying all morning. It might be a good idea to pull yourself together and go see it before you make a decision.

JohnThomasOnAFloralBedspread · 25/04/2026 14:06

WimbyAce · 25/04/2026 13:53

It seems a non issue to me, my kids have never been to the toilet at night.

What a weird fake boast.

NothingHereAnymore · 25/04/2026 14:05

You sound a bit dramatic to be honest.
I hate to say it but how do you think people that own/privately rent deal with sleepwalking/stairs?
Most people can't just up and move so they put preventative measures in place.
Already lots of ideas on this thread, door alarm, stair gate, camping loo, co sleeping, sleeping downstairs etc. It is hardly an insurmountable problem!
Just admit you want a property with a large garden (you seem unnecessarily focused on the small yard!) Lots of us have brought children up with no outside space at all, it isn't a requirement of parenthood.

BoredZelda · 25/04/2026 14:04

Do sleepwalkers fall down the stairs?

Zov · 25/04/2026 14:03

100% agree @5128gap

5128gap · 25/04/2026 14:01

TheyGrewUp · 25/04/2026 13:56

@Stressedmum6761 does your dd have a formal diagnosis for neuro diversity or any physical needs?

Go and see the flat and see if it is adequate. A stair gate and potty/camping toilet would do the trick. Is it better than what you have? Before you turn it down, take legal advice.

The alternative is to rent privately and get exactly what you want, where you want. Is there something that lrevents you from doing that? If so, perhaps you need to be glad that society is housing you.

No one in the right mind should choose the security of the roof over their head to be dependent on the whim of a private landlord, and pay much more for the privilege, if they had the option of a secure affordable SH tenancy. It would have to be an appalling council offer for this advice to be in the OPs interests.

HipsterHighStreet · 25/04/2026 14:00

Jollyjupiter · 25/04/2026 12:50

Why would you put your daughter outside if she is having a meltdown? Great way to piss off your neighbours!

Edited

Our neighbours over the road used to do this. Narrow little street. Was great at 7 on a Sunday morning 25 metres from my bedroom window 🙄