Please or to access all these features

AIBU?

Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

to think the expectations of grandfathers vs grandmothers are miles apart?

40 replies

Blaainey · 24/04/2026 20:36

There are so many threads about women complaining their DM/MIL is not gra not doing childcare, not helping enough, not being “hands on” enough. Cue outrage. Cue dissecting her personality, her priorities, her supposed selfishness.
But where are the grandfathers in all this?

They seem to exist in the background and no one expects anything. If a grandfather takes a child to the park once a month he’s basically up for sainthood. Meanwhile a grandmother can be doing regular childcare and still get criticised for not doing more or not doing it in the “right” way. She is criticised for not helping especially if she dared have help herself.

Even in real life I see it. Grandmothers are assumed to be available, involved, emotionally invested, practically useful. Grandfathers are optional extras. Nice if they engage, but no big deal if they don’t.

It is not just about practical help, it’s the emotional expectation too. Grandmothers are meant to remember birthdays, organise things, build relationships. Grandfathers can just turn up.

I never see a thread where someone is complaining the grandfather refuses to help with childcare.

I know it’s not all grandfathers and there are amazing, involved ones out there – I KNOW. But as a general pattern, the bar just seems so much lower for them.
AIBU to think it’s a bit unfair that one grandparent is scrutinised

OP posts:
LameBorzoi · 25/04/2026 08:34

Well of course it's a problem ideologically. However, practically, it's a very long road to change. Expectations are mediated by current reality.

Ace56 · 25/04/2026 08:26

Blaainey · 25/04/2026 08:17

So women should keep doing the childcare into their retirement while men and relax and enjoy theirs?

No, of course this attitude isn’t right but we can’t be surprised now that men in their 60s and above don’t generally do a lot of solo childcare! If grandmothers want to ‘relax in their retirement’ they need to tell their adult DC that they can’t look after their kids all the time. There should be no expectations on them either.

Crucible · 25/04/2026 08:20

It's just the same attitude towards fathers v mothers but one generation up. That's all.
Dad goes to park = LIVING GOD
Mum does anything other than be The Virgin Mary = SATAN.

Everlil · 25/04/2026 08:20

My parents had pretty traditional roles when I was growing up as my dad worked full time so a lot of childcare fell to my mum during the week. My dad did the bulk of the childcare at the weekends though. Now they’re both retired any babysitting is shared. My dad does things like taking them to the park, playing sports with them, my mum does more crafty things and reading. It’s the opposite way round with my in-laws, but still shared evenly.

Laiste · 25/04/2026 08:19

Child care is still seen as a woman's job.

The age/generation doesnt matter.

I know a lad in secondary school who cares for his siblings a lot. Everyone comments how wonderful it is. No one would say it's wonderful if a girl looked after her sisters.

Blaainey · 25/04/2026 08:17

Ace56 · 25/04/2026 08:15

In general, men stepping up and taking on a large share of childcare has only really happened in the last 20-30 years. I grew up in the 80s/90s and even then, attitudes were that women were the main caregivers (mothers were also less likely to work full time than they are now). So these grandfathers wouldn’t have really done a lot of solo childcare for their own kids, so why would they for their grandkids?

So women should keep doing the childcare into their retirement while men and relax and enjoy theirs?

OP posts:
Blaainey · 25/04/2026 08:16

OneNaiceSnail · 25/04/2026 08:14

Oh dear lord will these threads never end 🤦🏼‍♀️

It is these threads that people object to, not the endless dogs in cafes, parking and inheritance issues 🙄

OP posts:
Ace56 · 25/04/2026 08:15

In general, men stepping up and taking on a large share of childcare has only really happened in the last 20-30 years. I grew up in the 80s/90s and even then, attitudes were that women were the main caregivers (mothers were also less likely to work full time than they are now). So these grandfathers wouldn’t have really done a lot of solo childcare for their own kids, so why would they for their grandkids?

OneNaiceSnail · 25/04/2026 08:14

Oh dear lord will these threads never end 🤦🏼‍♀️

Blaainey · 25/04/2026 08:10

khaa2091 · 25/04/2026 01:10

My parents are very traditional and my Dad was away for long periods of time when I was a child.

They have always had my daughter overnight fairly frequently as I do shift work. My mother utterly smashed her dominant shoulder the week before I went back to work and so my father rapidly upped his game and learnt how to prepare bottles, change nappies and bathe babies. Initially done under my mothers supervision, but my daughter still goes to Grandpa if she wakes up in the night.

It shows the grandfathers can step up but women prefer grandmas to look after their DC.

OP posts:
Blaainey · 25/04/2026 08:07

notnowmaud · 25/04/2026 00:58

A few weeks back dh and I were talking about grandkids, dd mentioned she didn’t want any, and I whole heartedly agreed with her, dh then pipped up and said she’d likely change her mind and we (eg ME) would do the child care we both gave him a hard look, dd told him where he could stick it where the sun don’t shine (that’s my girl!) and I told him hell would freeze over before I did any child care again, I’ve only just got back into full time work now dc are in secondary, and want to enjoy work and then retirement, which does not include childcare, however I told him, he was welcome to offer anytime, but I’ll be off doing all the things I couldn’t do over the last 16 years! He looked shocked and told me I’d change my mind, I told him he was an arrogant prat, and should know by now I don’t change my mind (we’ve been married for 20 years).

Your DH likes the idea of grandchildren with the women doing all the work.

OP posts:
khaa2091 · 25/04/2026 01:10

My parents are very traditional and my Dad was away for long periods of time when I was a child.

They have always had my daughter overnight fairly frequently as I do shift work. My mother utterly smashed her dominant shoulder the week before I went back to work and so my father rapidly upped his game and learnt how to prepare bottles, change nappies and bathe babies. Initially done under my mothers supervision, but my daughter still goes to Grandpa if she wakes up in the night.

Blimms · 25/04/2026 01:05

Your point is valid, but it’s also one that has rightly been brought up on here many times.

notnowmaud · 25/04/2026 00:58

A few weeks back dh and I were talking about grandkids, dd mentioned she didn’t want any, and I whole heartedly agreed with her, dh then pipped up and said she’d likely change her mind and we (eg ME) would do the child care we both gave him a hard look, dd told him where he could stick it where the sun don’t shine (that’s my girl!) and I told him hell would freeze over before I did any child care again, I’ve only just got back into full time work now dc are in secondary, and want to enjoy work and then retirement, which does not include childcare, however I told him, he was welcome to offer anytime, but I’ll be off doing all the things I couldn’t do over the last 16 years! He looked shocked and told me I’d change my mind, I told him he was an arrogant prat, and should know by now I don’t change my mind (we’ve been married for 20 years).

PollyBell · 25/04/2026 00:45

But women seem suspicious if a male want to care for children i beleive there is current thread about a grandfather and suspiciouns

But maybe people should have less expectations on grandparents anyway they have their own lives too life should exist outside children