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To ask: if your are anti-Reform and in Wales...

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ConcernedForWales · 24/04/2026 10:01

is tactical voting needed?

I am trying to work out if tactical voting is needed in Wales to keep Reform out, or whether the new PR system makes that approach redundant.

For example: if the local opinion polls show Plaid first Labour second, a vote for either will do the job? But anywhere where it is Plaid first, Reform second or vice versa, it has to be Plaid?

What do other anti-Reform people in Wales think?

YABU - tactical voting not needed under the new system

YANBU - it is still needed

(There are a few threads encouraging voting for Reform running at the moment, so assume this one is OK).

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Indianajet · 24/04/2026 11:00

I live in North Wales and am struggling with this too. Off to do some more research as I dread Reform getting in.

xanthomelana · 24/04/2026 10:57

ConcernedForWales · 24/04/2026 10:41

Could you link to where Plaid has said that? Because it isn't in the manifesto. I just checked:

Welsh-medium education

Making full use of the powers in the Welsh
Language and Education Act, a Plaid Cymru
government will act to ensure every child has
the right to become a confident Welsh speaker.

We will grow the number and proportion of
children and young people receiving Welsh-
medium education, with a target of at least
50% of pupils in Welsh-medium education
by 2050, and ensuring that this provision is
well-resourced, accessible and inclusive.
We will strengthen Welsh-medium provision
in further and higher education.

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Google Gwynedd council and you’ll see it’s happening there.

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ConcernedForWales · 24/04/2026 10:41

Periperi2025 · 24/04/2026 10:25

Be careful voting plaid, i live in a plaid strong hold.
The council is corrupt, lazy and actually dangerous (Foden's reign of terror).

They also want to remove all choice of an English language education. I love that my DD is bilingual in her primary education but know many adults who have struggled at university due to their Welsh education and are staunchly in favour of English dominant secondary education. We live in a democracy within the UK, this is a choice that shouldn't be taken away from us.

Could you link to where Plaid has said that? Because it isn't in the manifesto. I just checked:

Welsh-medium education

Making full use of the powers in the Welsh
Language and Education Act, a Plaid Cymru
government will act to ensure every child has
the right to become a confident Welsh speaker.

We will grow the number and proportion of
children and young people receiving Welsh-
medium education, with a target of at least
50% of pupils in Welsh-medium education
by 2050, and ensuring that this provision is
well-resourced, accessible and inclusive.
We will strengthen Welsh-medium provision
in further and higher education.

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Periperi2025 · 24/04/2026 10:25

Be careful voting plaid, i live in a plaid strong hold.
The council is corrupt, lazy and actually dangerous (Foden's reign of terror).

They also want to remove all choice of an English language education. I love that my DD is bilingual in her primary education but know many adults who have struggled at university due to their Welsh education and are staunchly in favour of English dominant secondary education. We live in a democracy within the UK, this is a choice that shouldn't be taken away from us.

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ConcernedForWales · 24/04/2026 10:17

5128gap · 24/04/2026 10:12

If you Google stop Reform UK tactical voting tool you can get information specific to your constituency on whether a tactical vote is necessary to prevent a Reform win, and where to place it.

I tried that but the one I found said "advice pending. I guess it is more complicated in Wales because of the D'Hondt system.

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ConcernedForWales · 24/04/2026 10:14

KimHwn · 24/04/2026 10:04

Yeah, I hate tactical voting but I'm worried enough to be voting for Plaid this time. I'd be voting Green otherwise, maybe Labour. A few opinion polls has Reform as the biggest party and I'm terrified of that...

Me too. Although those polls also show Reform couldn't form a government even if in coalition with the Tories, so that is some comfort.

OP posts:
5128gap · 24/04/2026 10:12

If you Google stop Reform UK tactical voting tool you can get information specific to your constituency on whether a tactical vote is necessary to prevent a Reform win, and where to place it.

KimHwn · 24/04/2026 10:04

Yeah, I hate tactical voting but I'm worried enough to be voting for Plaid this time. I'd be voting Green otherwise, maybe Labour. A few opinion polls has Reform as the biggest party and I'm terrified of that...

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