Voting for Reform.the north/south

Hang on, who has said that?

Wow, that is A star condescension right there. Look at all the thickos who shouldn’t be able to vote because they don’t have an MA like me!

FWIW I also have a Masters but I wouldn’t dream of such condescension. Has it ever occurred to you that those not lucky enough to go to uni are still your equal? Clearly not.

Critical thinking means your decision to be left wing is an educated one and you will be able to justify it effectively.

Same will be true for some people who are centrist or right wing.

And there will be those who are right or left wing who are that way out of habit, or family habits, influence of those around them etc.

In many cases the decision will be personally motivated, and they then use their critical thinking skills to create an effective narrative to justify it, rather than their skills leading to their opinion.

The most interesting/well researched voters are often the floating voters. Those who views and votes evolve and change over time, based on the policies and track history of individual parties and policies, the needs of that particular time etc. Those that go 'I will only every vote Labour and my parents only ever voted Labour and my grandparents before them' often struggle to create an effective argument.

For those that say there is a link between being more educated and more likely to be left wing or pro EU…i completely agree! That’s because our universities are left wing brainwashing factories and our schools are becoming that way! Long gone are the days of teaching critical thinking and looking at the evidence provided before you make an informed decision. Its now left wing rubbish and no one dares to openly disagree because you will be labelled as racist, sexist, homophobic, fascist, stupid, etc. I remember finding the extreme bias towards left wing politics unbearable when i went to uni in 2008…and i wasn’t even that interested in politics then.

It also taught me how to identify bias in research, and how to weigh the validity of studies

It makes people question what algorithms push their way. It also means they research assertions and don’t take them at face value. It usually means they can evidence their claims.

I don’t think going through the university system means that much, it doesn’t make anyone more immune to narratives or algorithms.

Although I’d say some of the stuff I learnt there is useful for what’s happening rn in terms of opposing sides.

Do you want to show me where I said people without an MA shouldn't be able to vote? Or that they aren't my equal?

You don't think the person who said that universities are 'left wing brainwashing factories' was condescending?

Is it just the condescension you're disagreeing with here, or are you suggesting the data showing more education correlates with being more left wing is wrong?

I mentioned my MA as an example of higher education TEACHING the qualities she said it shuns.

Your posts speak for themselves @glitterpaperchain. Punching down and bigging yourself up with your precious “MA” thinking. **Caveat - not all MA holders punch down.

Do you want to show me where I said people without an MA shouldn't be able to vote? Or that they aren't my equal?

You don't think the person who said that universities are 'left wing brainwashing factories' was condescending?

Is it just the condescension you're disagreeing with here, or are you suggesting the data showing more education correlates with being more left wing is wrong?

I mentioned my MA as an example of higher education TEACHING the qualities she said it shuns.

Long gone are the days of teaching critical thinking and looking at the evidence provided before you make an informed decision.

This is what my university education TAUGHT me to do. I spent my MA doing meta-analyses.

It's really embarrassing to see people parrot back this line that right wingers say to try and justify the data that shows more educated people are less right wing. Critical thinking is the REASON I am left wing and the reason I don't get taken in by a lot of right wing rhetoric.

Long gone are the days of teaching critical thinking and looking at the evidence provided before you make an informed decision.

This is what my university education TAUGHT me to do. I spent my MA doing meta-analyses.

It's really embarrassing to see people parrot back this line that right wingers say to try and justify the data that shows more educated people are less right wing. Critical thinking is the REASON I am left wing and the reason I don't get taken in by a lot of right wing rhetoric.

Wow, that is A star condescension right there. Look at all the thickos who shouldn’t be able to vote because they don’t have an MA like me!

FWIW I also have a Masters but I wouldn’t dream of such condescension. Has it ever occurred to you that those not lucky enough to go to uni are still your equal? Clearly not.

Wow, that is A star condescension right there. Look at all the thickos who shouldn’t be able to vote because they don’t have an MA like me!

FWIW I also have a Masters but I wouldn’t dream of such condescension. Has it ever occurred to you that those not lucky enough to go to uni are still your equal? Clearly not.

Long gone are the days of teaching critical thinking and looking at the evidence provided before you make an informed decision.

This is what my university education TAUGHT me to do. I spent my MA doing meta-analyses.

It's really embarrassing to see people parrot back this line that right wingers say to try and justify the data that shows more educated people are less right wing. Critical thinking is the REASON I am left wing and the reason I don't get taken in by a lot of right wing rhetoric.

Better deterrent though isn’t it?

Sorry, I might be leaving right into your point, but did the leave votes actually get what they thought they would from Brexit?

• higher food prices
• more paperwork for small businesses
• more spending on civil servants
• 6% drop in GDP
• 30% drop in exports
• huge rise in immigration (mostly caused by attempts to offset brexit’s impact)
• cuts to university funding
• cuts to agricultural subsidies
• less direct funding to areas of economic deprivation
• french citizenship for Farage

Was that what they were voting for?

For those that say there is a link between being more educated and more likely to be left wing or pro EU…i completely agree! That’s because our universities are left wing brainwashing factories and our schools are becoming that way! Long gone are the days of teaching critical thinking and looking at the evidence provided before you make an informed decision. Its now left wing rubbish and no one dares to openly disagree because you will be labelled as racist, sexist, homophobic, fascist, stupid, etc. I remember finding the extreme bias towards left wing politics unbearable when i went to uni in 2008…and i wasn’t even that interested in politics then.