Why isn't there any mainstream media focus on British men rape who molest and rape, women and children? But just 'the boat people' ?! Evil/badness exists everywhere!

@nomas “the vast majority of rapists and child abusers in the UK are white”

That’s because the vast majority of the population in the UK are white.

Or as the prosecuter said in court, "a piece of meat".

It would be interesting to see the stats of violent crime committed by those born outwith the UK compared by those who live within.

A lot of ‘boat’ immigrants come from countries with a fairly sleazy view of western women. I worked with immigrants in a past life and the vast majority were lovely but a significant minority were brought up watching Hollywood films where (white western) women would get into bed with a guy within 30 mins of meeting them. This would be unheard of in their culture (and our culture too but the immigrant living in a far off land didn’t know this). This seemed to give the impression to some that all western women were gagging for sex with virtual strangers, hence they come here thinking that’s the norm.

The side-side trouble is that boat people are pretty much all young and male from safe countries. They’re not asylum seekers.

The male bit and the non-refugee bit means the risk of crime from them goes up even more than it already has as migrants. The risk goes up 3x.

Obviously most men aren’t rapists, and equally obviously rape is illegal
where they come from.

Perspective is required, but I do wonder quite who thought putting them all together in big hotels is a smart move.

In no sense is this a race issue.

Because that British men rape makes no difference to the fact we should not be importing hundreds of thousand of illegal immigrants from cultures that disrespect women and then dump them in our community completely putting the safety of locals at risk

and I don’t care about skin colour / I do care that ge really the countries they are coming from think it’s fine to treat women like shit . They should not be in this country

How can people not appreciate that people with a totally alien culture, coming into a country from abroad and committing horrific crimes in that country, is more newsworthy than just the standard bassline crime level?

It smacks of denial.
It smacks of the sort of behaviour that allowed those grooming gangs to exploit innocent people with near impunity, for decades.

It's not an example, it's a question. Do you know the answer?

There’s also a podcast run by the biggest newspaper in Europe. I guess the OP must have missed that too!

Did you really use French men as an example? 🙈

I am a newspaper reporter and I report on white British male rapists every single day. So do my colleagues up and down the country. You must have missed all of those stories..

As someone who spends her entire working life in courtrooms I can say, anecdotally but with nearly three decades of experience, that the number of rapists is not disproportionately skewed in any direction. It’s a male problem and it’s absolutely endemic in every sector of society.

Those two white blokes who adopted a baby and raped him to death - not a single eyelid batted.

Silly lie, this.

Case is on every newspaper front page today. Hour by hour coverage.

Agree.

The side trouble is that it is largely proven that new immigrants of any creed/colour to anywhere of any creed/colour commit more crime.
Exactly, if you are a white European male immigrant to Thailand or Cambodia, you bet I'm going to think you are a sex offender.

The issue is men, mainly. The side trouble is that it is largely proven that new immigrants of any creed/colour to anywhere of any creed/colour commit more crime.

So do their DC. No one knows why.

Some countries act on this. My brother is an immigrant and has to keep his nose clean - eg not so much as a parking ticket - or his new citizenship is whipped away.

In this case, abuse of the human rights system to commit appalling violations of ditto is particularly repulsive.

I also find this discussion exhausting and confusing because of the use of terms without defining them or being specific. Everyone ends up talking at cross purposes.

'British', 'asylum seeker', 'immigrant', 'brown-skinned' - you can be a British brown-skinned immigrant. Who are we talking about exactly? Do French banking executives in the city of London commit sexual assault at the same rate as Afghan asylum seekers? Both are immigrants.

I’ve never seen any decent stats regarding uk rapists and sexual abusers. I’ve only seen stats based on convicted offenders which isn’t much use at all.

Because the violent men are more vocal and visible. Plenty of people (particularly women) care about all victims of rape regardless of their attackers ethnicity or nationality. But the vocal minority don’t actually care about women, they just want a cover for their racism.

2 in every 5 of the people arrested in the 2024 riots had previously been reported for domestic abuse.

Robert Jenrick made some statements about 6ish months ago and he announced a couple of figures about sexual crimes among immigrants. The BBC Fact Checking Unit (I think that is what it is called) examined the data and said he had misunderstood it. One figure he quoted was definitely wrong and the other one was possibly right but there was no way anyone could be sure from the data. It is easy to misunderstand.

Why is there more focus on non British rapes? Well the obvious difference is that we can't deport British born rapists but we can deport non-British ones and block sex offenders' asylum applications so there is a media and political drive to act on this. Rightly.

Assuming your question is in good faith, I think that it may be easier to convict asylum seekers as well because they tend to commit stranger rapes and assaults - which are often in public so it is easier to get evidence (CCTV, witnesses etc). Native abusers have homes, families and social connections that offer them more cover and power.

Conversely, it is well established that protecting ethnic groups and not wanting to appear racist are key factors in enabling grooming gangs and violent offenders like the men in Nottingham and Southport. (I am probably being racist by not remembering how to spell their names and not caring either).

ETA that 'evil and badness exist everywhere' yes but cultures that have child marriage, FGM, ban women from education, compulsory hijab and widespread misogyny are more evil and bad.

Of course the media reports white men rape cases. I read about them often in newspapers. The difference is that the illegal migrants who rape and abuse women have forced their way into this country, are living at our expense, and have very poor ideas on how women should be treated. Why do you think it should NOT be reported. They are all disgusting perverts and criminals, no matter where they were born and what colour their skin.

Those two white blokes who adopted a baby and raped him to death - not a single eyelid batted.

Epsom - not even any evidence of a crime yet the pitchforks were out.

White disgusting men getting away with the worst. Tale as old as time.

Which part of OP's post says men in boats should be welcomed?

Because we have been taught to be tolerant and accepting and that diversity is good. We are stuck with the men who are born here….why accept that it’s fine for men in boats with no papers who have travelled through many safe countries are to be welcomed when they come from a culture that has no respect for women and no respect for Western values?

If you make a claim, you need to provide the stats to prove your claim, not me.