Why isn't there any mainstream media focus on British men rape who molest and rape, women and children? But just 'the boat people' ?! Evil/badness exists everywhere!

Nope, I don’t have patriotic glasses on. As I have just said to another poster, I am well aware of the stats around male violence in this country as I am an active member of a women’s rights group. I spend considerable time and energy complaining about men in this country, too.

Patriarchal repression and domination of women is global. That said, some practices are culturally different. It is inaccurate to say that FGM is a British cultural practice. It is inaccurate to say that girls and women can’t be educated in this country. It is inaccurate to claim that marital rape is preached about in Anglican churches. Women are still violently and sexually assaulted but we absolutely do not have a culture where men can openly talk in the workplace about hitting their wives.

What you have just posted is downright wrong.

Far from being naive, I’m an active and campaigning member of a women’s rights organisation. The Egyptian women you speak of are fighting for their rights because of the way they are treated culturally by male Egyptians. My husband worked in Egypt a few years ago and was left pretty speechless by the way male businessmen treated and talked about women.

You are missing the point spectacularly. Spousal rape happens in this country and it is illegal. It is tolerated or legal in the following countries (source cited - Rape Crisis Scotland):

• Middle East/North Africa: Saudi Arabia, United Arab Emirates, Qatar, Oman, Bahrain, Kuwait, Yemen, Iraq, Syria, Jordan, Egypt, Lebanon.
• Asia: India, Pakistan, Sri Lanka, Afghanistan.
• Africa: South Sudan, Cote D'Ivoire, Gambia, Seychelles, Nigeria, Eritrea, Tanzania.

To be clear, this is not a ‘white’ thing as you claim I believe. It is a male thing, and it occurs with horrific regularity in countries where the culture encourages female subservience.

You are NOT at equivalent risk.

You are NOT at an equivalent risk of being groped by passers by in London as you are in Cairo.

You are NOT at an equivalent risk of violent sexual assault in London as you are in Kabul.

The fact that there is risk in London does NOT make that risk the same as the risk somewhere else.

Horrific crimes do get headlines, it’s usually more likely if it’s something that breaks public trust such as Sarah Everard. The public were outraged.

of course ppl batted eyelids about the men. Crazy thing to say that they didn't.

I'll find a 5 year old to interpret this line and come back to you 🤦🏾‍♀️.

we know we have criminals of our own but it's not rocket science to understand that we don't want even more problems with men coming in on boats .
Why would you want to something?

No, you didn’t. She didn’t say that at all.

The Home Office report actually says there is limited evidence but there are more white grooming gangs. They fly under the radar better.

Having said that there does need to be a clear and effective strategy to understand and target grooming gangs. All women want that.

And definitely not any using white British culture or religion to rape. Which is what all of the Asian and other non-white British grooming gangs have all done. They used their Religion and culture to groom and rape white British girls.

The rapists used cigarettes and food and drugs to groom the girls. They then demanded ‘favours’ as recompense for these things. This is a classic grooming tactic, religion doesn’t teach you to do that.

How do you think white abusers groom victims?

I just outlined your position, so…

This would be laughable, if not for the serious nature of the OP.

The question posed is not 'SHOULD WE IMPORT MORE RAPISTS'. It is, WHY IS THERE WIDESPREAD REPORTING OF FOREIGN RAPISTS, BUT NOT HOMEGROWN ONES'.

There is a lot to see here, actually.

There really aren't white British grooming 'gangs' raping on the scale that the Asian and other non- white British gangs have been.

There are thousands upon thousands of white British rapists but not in a co-ordinated way like the Asian and other non-white British grooming gangs have been.

And definitely not any using white British culture or religion to rape. Which is what all of the Asian and other non-white British grooming gangs have all done. They used their Religion and culture to groom and rape white British girls.

Look at the % stats for Albanians arrested here. It is mind boggling.

OP consider a few things here:

firstly that there is a lot of focus on asylum seekers - for legitimate reasons - so therefore newspapers will jump on any story that involves asylum seekers. That might make the press shit stirring bastards who don’t care what they’re doing to society, and it definitely fans the flames of racism, but that is why you see it so much in the news. Same reason I could shoplift and no one would give a shit but if Meghan Markle nabbed a stick of gum from the local newsagent, her face would be plastered all over the 10 o’clock news.

secondly, many of the rapes committed by British men here (of any ethnic background) are likely to be of women linked to them. So they might take place somewhere they’re not likely to get caught of have witnesses, and they may be far less likely to be reported.

thirdly, someone speaking a different language when the rape happens is easier to identify - it’s quite a particular detail. And if there’s been trouble around an area where lots of these men are staying, the police will be aware of them - it’s not like just one rogue man does one crime, there is a huge amount of crime related to these large groups of asylum seekers.

fourth, you’re not wrong that there’s a conspiracy going on around the treatment of these people - but I’d urge you to consider it in a different light. Many asylum seekers have been victims, and the government is well aware/involved to varying degrees in this. So it helps them and criminals involved to have attention diverted from their crimes if everyone is busy looking at the asylum seekers as monsters. That isn’t straight forward racism. That’s money making. People trafficking. it’s a lot deeper than tommy Robinson’s lot not liking someone because they’re a different skin tone to them. go look into the Hove asylum seeker kidnappings. in fact everyone should because it is outrageous.

This. Attitudes which are incompatible with our way of life.
Yes... we have our own home-grown rapists- cannot be denied.
Do we need to import any more?

Champagne socialism vs hysterical juxtaposition 🤔.

I can not want to walk the streets of Kabul or Cairo AND accept I'm at great risk of being raped in London too. As the OP asks - I can acknowledge that evil men come in all colours, shapes and sizes and rapists will rape wherever you meet them - Kabul, Cairo and London.

Was going to write the exact same thing. I don’t understand the mentality of people thinking we need to bring more of this problem into the country.

If JV was not a UK citizen, any normal person would question why he was in the country. It’s not really surprising that nobody is debating this man’s immigration status, and there has definitely been media coverage.

Some men here are rapey so what’s a few more? Nothing to see here, let’s not even bother having any kind is selection process as to who we allow to live here?

😂😂😂😂

Really!? I've seen plenty written about poor Preston Davey. Spoken to several people about it, and all find it horrific.

Of course the grooming gangs have to be addressed, that’s a given.

But there are lots of posters who focus on them to the exclusion of any other rapes, therefore giving white rapists a free pass. Even on a thread about other rapists, the thread gets hijacked.

Those posters don’t care about the girls who are raped, they just use them for racial and political point scoring.

I don’t see the point in engaging further if you’re at the level of leaping on to usernames and insults. I’ll ignore your posts and see if you’ll do the same.

I don't know what's complicated about why people may be more bothered about an asylum seeker or immigrant commiting rape.

Precisely because we have enough rapists to deal with that were born here.

An asylum seeker has already committed a criminal offence entering the UK illegally. To go on and commit rape while waiting for their asylum claim to be processed while we give them sanctuary from whatever they claim made them break our immigration laws to enter here, is outrageous

And if an immigrant has been given permission to live here it is because they have agreed to abide by our laws as part of the contract we have with them to let them live here.

If they then rape someone. It is outrageous.

It's not hard to see why people may be more outraged.

I’m guessing we both post on posts that are trending.

I don’t follow your posts any more than you follow mine. I have no idea where you’re from, I don’t tend to ask posters this.

People can engage with whoever they want, that’s how a forum works.

Exactly. Such privilege and then to lose it when asked where they’d rather be.