To just hate having a woman's body

Think PP means "doing" makeup.

PP, don't wear makeup if you don't want to! There's no point if you don't enjoy it.

If you feel that you're following an imagined code for females, then no, you shouldn't do it. I truly think I do it for myself, though. But some people (like some PP here) can't accept that some women groom themselves in accordance with they like and only what they like. And sometimes those things are aligned with what society thinks looks good on women. Personally, I don't think that the societal pressures came first. I think these things became the "norm" because they do look objectively nicer, imo, which is why most people did them. Now they're the default look. But I don't think anyone should try to produce that look if they don't want to. If I didn't want to do my hair and makeup and shave and dye my greys etc, you can bet your first-born that I most certainly would not.

It seems that there are quite a few women who do not want to shave, wear makeup etc. but feel they "have" to. I can't imagine spending all that time and money on my appearance if I thought it was a drag. Women who don't WANT to do all that just shouldn't! I don't relate to all the pressure because I've loved makeup ever since I can remember; I love colour and art etc. but it must be a total PITA not to want to groom that way but feel you have to. I mean, that is a lot of time being bored and doing stuff you don't want to. Luckily for those who aren't into it all, the natural look is more acceptable than ever these days.

I’ve had many investigations into it over the last 30 years. It’s just my periods.

But you're not "stuck" in the bathroom, "verifying" make up, are you? You choose to wear make up. It's not mandatory.

"I feel cleaner and prettier when I don't have hairy armpits and legs"

Which I can understand (although it's not cleaner). However, you'd get that feeling even more if you didn't do it every day.
It's like having clean sheets on the bed. If you change them every day you never get that clean day feeling.

OP finds it a chore (as do I) so why not just do it less often?

Who told you that you HAVE to shave any part of your body or that you HAVE to wear an uncomfortable bra? I haven't done any of those things since I was 20 (and I'm 76 now). Yes, women get periods and pregnant, but they also get to birth and nurse children. I'd stop moaning and rethink who you're doing any of those cosmetic things for if they're causing you to hate your body.

OP said most days, but for me, I feel cleaner and prettier when I don't have hairy armpits and legs, and when my pubic hair is neatly trimmed. I'm single and I WFH, but still give those areas a quick swipe with the razor when showering, because it makes ME feel nice. I do not think that lots of thick coarse dark hair looks good on me or is comfortable, and I think I would feel like that if I was on a desert island.

Do you know, about 6 months ago I started going swimming weekly with my kids, and at some point I just thought, why am I shaving my legs when no one gives a fuck and if they do care then I think they are weird? Im not there to attract anyone. I’m more likely to shave for myself if I’m wearing a dress and it feels nice to feel smooth and moisturised. But otherwise, it feels great to just give no fucks. I know you can’t manufacture that feeling, but really, think about how no one is interested in you and they are all thinking about themselves. When we are on our deathbeds, are we going to think ‘I’m glad I spent so much time preening my body for some imagined code for females’?

The period bit sucks. Hope you can relax and it doesn’t dominate things too much.

Perfectly normal to have variances in your cycle.

It’s shit, you also feel like shit because your hormones are rock bottom and everything feels bad.

Completely reasonable to feel down in the dumps.

OP, I completely see what you mean. I've had a rough menopause and have suffered years of heartache from other problems that a female body can bring.

But on the other hand, our bodies are so beautiful. The graceful curves of our hipbones and breasts make us look like works of art, unlike men, who look like tree trunks with an elephant's nose randomly stuck on the front. Men look comical whereas we are visually stunning.

And yes, having a female body can bring all sorts of problems, but....our bodies literally manufacture humans. We are AMAZING.

Even if you think you look better without it (due to social conditioning imo, but whatever), why does it have to be done every day especially when it's not hot enough to be sleeveless?

I won't be the only one to point out the real problem is patriarchal values and demands of female bodies.

Because men don't have wild hormonal cycles, wombs, ovaries and periods, it all feels 'abnormal' even though half the species is, in fact, female. And we all know women's bodies aren't hairless, but it does take a bit of courage to defy the imposed falsehood and let it all waft about.

Sympathies, OP. Hope you enjoy your spa day.

You might understand not having perfectly regular cycles when you hit peri.

Laser is your friend. Book a few sessions - life changing. It doesn't hurt at at all.

I would say that very heavy periods like that are a gynaecological problem.
Mine aren't that bad even with a condition that my gynae wants to take my womb out over.

I knew someone would say this!

I don't think it's all social conditioning. Lots of body hair is masculine and I think most of us women look objectively better without it.

Does laser hair removal hurt?

I agree OP, I hate shaving, my hair grows back so fast but I also hate having any hair on my armpits, I don’t feel as clean

I only shave my armpits if someone is going to see them so for me that's not daily.
For the bikini line I have a legsuit for swimming pools. It wouldn't look as good on the beach, but then I could just add shorts or a sarong.

100% Agree with previous posters re mirena coil and laser hair removal for pits, legs & bikini line - I did both when I started getting into swimming regularly and it’s so incredibly liberating! I only occasionally need to do a top-up hair removal treatment and the freedom it’s given me to wear what I want in summer and swim whenever I feel like it with no preparation is huge.

Sometimes I agree OP. I sometimes think us women need to change social convention a bit. It shouldn't be mortifying to have an accidental bleed and walk around with a little patch around the bum. It shouldn't matter if your arm pits are hairy, to the contrary we shouldn't be shaving unless we really like to. It also should he normal to put a napkin under your chin like a baby because a napkin on your lap is an absolute joke when anything falling would have to go around massive boobs on the way down.

Oh! Do you have regular periods! Well done you!

I have done laser hair removal. It works best on dark hair. I wish I had done it years ago.

🤣🤣🤣🤣 menopause?