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To expect my family and especially my brother to step up?

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Borntorunfast · 20/04/2026 18:47

80yo DM had a bad fall 16 days ago. Fell onto concrete, didn't put her hands out, knocked out, blood everywhere. I was with her and honestly thought for a moment she was dead. She had such severe concussion she couldn't walk for a week (too dizzy); she was bleeding from her face, nose and eye, and I've never seen a human eye look like her right eye - it was (and still is) full of blood.

She hasn't been able to see out of that eye since. She's been staying with me as she was too dizzy to be home alone, plus she can't see properly.

I've been putting eye drops in 7 times a day, taking her to the toilet, helping her wash and dress, cooking, washing, cleaning, driving hours and hours to the hospital and back (she's an hour away from me), trying to entertain her - while working full-time, caring for my children (both with additional needs). I cancelled Easter plans, work trip, birthday plans, because she can't be left alone. I worked the weekend to make up for the time spent taking her to the hospital during the week. I've researched her condition, started thinking about the future - she lives alone in the countryside, somewhere she needs a car.

Since the accident, my DB hasn't contacted me. At all. He's phoned mum a couple of times. He hasn't visited. He lives 4 hrs away, is apparently "very stressed", buying a house and feels a bit poorly - so in her mind it's OK he hasn't done a thing. I messaged him Friday saying: I need some help. He messaged back to say he was "exhausted" and he'd try and call me "maybe Saturday". He finally messaged me this morning, but only to say he was busy.

Mum saw the consultant this morning. She has lost the sight in her eye. This is not a surprise to me, ofc, because I've been putting drops in her shattered eye for a fortnight but my brother is apparently "shocked" (mum called him).

I am so so so angry. He always leaves everything to me. He did this with our dad. Every time things go tits up, I deal with it, and then he's very sorry, very grateful, says he will absolutely step up next time. But he never does.

What do I do? I feel so trapped. I don't want to care for her full-time. I can't. I won't. And yet she now can't see, can't drive, is skint (long story but my parents have always made all sorts of poor choices, almost all of which I end up paying for) - and DB gets to skip about being "stressed" when really the mental and physical load is 100% mine.

Thanks for reading if you got this far. I guess I want to know AIBU to think it shouldn't be all on me? And WTF do I do?

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WhatNoRaisins · 24/04/2026 08:33

dontmalbeconme · 23/04/2026 18:01

Your real issue seems to be that you think it's up to you to decide that your brother is obligated to provide some kind of support that he simply isn't wanting to do.

And whilst you're being hostile to you, I'm also someone 4 years down the line from you, and telling you what I wish someone had told me. Do not set yourself (or you brother) up to be the main carers. Let ASC take that burden, and allow yourself to continue being a loving daughter, not a stressed out, resentful carer. No amount of inheritance is worth the damage that will do to the relationship with your mum and sibling, and the way it will take over and destroy your life and your physical and mental health. Think carefully about what you are willing and able to offer and don't feel guilty about sticking to your boundaries. You and your brother deserve to lead your own, fulfilling lives and not to just exist to care for your Mum. It sounds as though your Mum needs far more care than it is practicable for a family to provide.

I w8sh you good luck, but please, please heed my warning.

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I agree with this. In my case by handing over the responsibility for providing to care to outside providers meant that my family member still had meaningful relationships with us. This was a person who had outlived the majority of their friends and family and only had us.

Yes we could have tried a rota of using up our annual leave, travelling cross country to manage their shopping, cleaning and laundry. There wouldn't then have been those opportunities for a laugh and a reminisce over a cup of tea or sending them a postcard from going on holiday. Sometimes something can look very selfless in theory but it doesn't give a good result for the person.

OP you need to think about what your mum needs here and the best way to get it.

dontmalbeconme · 23/04/2026 18:01

Borntorunfast · 23/04/2026 17:40

Yes, you've made that same point over and over and over again. I get it. We all get it. You don't need to keep on about it.

I am not you and this is not your situation. I've explained the real issue - which is not what you keep going on about - but you've chosen to ignore it in favour of just repeating your earlier point. It's getting a bit silly now.

Your real issue seems to be that you think it's up to you to decide that your brother is obligated to provide some kind of support that he simply isn't wanting to do.

And whilst you're being hostile to you, I'm also someone 4 years down the line from you, and telling you what I wish someone had told me. Do not set yourself (or you brother) up to be the main carers. Let ASC take that burden, and allow yourself to continue being a loving daughter, not a stressed out, resentful carer. No amount of inheritance is worth the damage that will do to the relationship with your mum and sibling, and the way it will take over and destroy your life and your physical and mental health. Think carefully about what you are willing and able to offer and don't feel guilty about sticking to your boundaries. You and your brother deserve to lead your own, fulfilling lives and not to just exist to care for your Mum. It sounds as though your Mum needs far more care than it is practicable for a family to provide.

I w8sh you good luck, but please, please heed my warning.

Borntorunfast · 23/04/2026 17:40

dontmalbeconme · 23/04/2026 15:15

As I have said, I HAVE dealt with this. I was bullied, guilted and co-erced into doing far, far more than I was willing or able to do and it destroyed my relationship with my sibling and my parent, not to mention taking a collosal toll on my physical and mental health. It would have been far better all round for my parent to have had professional care. Sibling insisted this wasn't to be (protecting inheritance) then piled it on about me doing "my" half-share. Except I also had to hold down a full time job, parent two children and run my own household around "my half" (which I didn't want to do, and knew I didn't have the health or capacity for), whilst they didn't work, had no family and lived for free off the bank of Mum and Dad.

It was a horrific period of time. I wish I had set and maintained stronger boundaries. You offer what you are willing and able to do, but don't start trying to make your sibling take responsibily for your decision not to leave this to ASC. He is not obligated to provide ANY care of any sort, unless he wishes to do do.

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Yes, you've made that same point over and over and over again. I get it. We all get it. You don't need to keep on about it.

I am not you and this is not your situation. I've explained the real issue - which is not what you keep going on about - but you've chosen to ignore it in favour of just repeating your earlier point. It's getting a bit silly now.

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gerispringer · 23/04/2026 15:25

Please apply for Attendance Allowance which is not means tested and means your mum could pay for cleaner or carers.

dontmalbeconme · 23/04/2026 15:18

TheoriginalMrsDarcy · 23/04/2026 08:34

If he can't help out with providing physical care, then he can help out financially. Get him to pay a larger contribution to help you out. Even if your mum is entitled to social care, she will still need extra financial, you to visit to help any additional care, form filling etc... petrol to visit mum or to take her places. Ignore the BS that he says he sorry and grateful and take a chunk of money to help you out instead.

Nope, neither child is obligated to pay for their parent's care. Either OP's mum pays, or ASC pays based on a financial assessment.

dontmalbeconme · 23/04/2026 15:15

Borntorunfast · 23/04/2026 10:55

Can you please stop? Life is not black and white. Things don't get tied up in a bow. There are HUGE gaps in social care, no matter how much you say "just get them involved, they'll do it". THEY WON'T.

And I've already told you that THAT'S what this is about - the mental load. The giving a shit about someone you love. The having someone else to talk to about what do to. The having someone else to help with the research, the phone calls.

The social care system is f**ked. The NHS likewise. Care is patchy, variable, not joined up and in many cases missing entirely. There will never be "someone" who can help navigate it all. That's not how it works - I have actual, lived experience of the social care system, which I presume you do not.

As an example, this week I have arranged physio for my mum as her balance is shot due to losing the sight in one eye. That means she's less independent and more likely to fall over in future. This physio is not available on the NHS as she has no 'physical' need for it - she's not injured her body, therefore she does not need physio. I have also arranged for a second opinion, contacted PALS, researched a different hospital, on the off chance that a more specialist hospital may be able to save at least some sight in her damaged eye. Again, this is not available as a "service" because as far as the NHS is concerned she's getting treatment.

So, which "professionals" do you propose do things like that? Adult care, a social worker, "the council", her GP (who she hasn't seen yet as she's still under hospital care), the doctors and nurses in the hospital whose job it is NOT to do those things? That's right - none of them would do stuff like this.

But this is something my brother could easily help with. The calls, the research. But that would require him to have taken some interest in what's happened to his mum - he hasn't, so neither of those things have occurred to him.

That's what I mean. So please please stop posting about bullying, boundaries, and these mythical professionals that you laughably think will step in, and a social care system that exists only in the fantasy of your own mind, and pray that you don't ever have to navigate all this for yourself or for someone you love.

As I have said, I HAVE dealt with this. I was bullied, guilted and co-erced into doing far, far more than I was willing or able to do and it destroyed my relationship with my sibling and my parent, not to mention taking a collosal toll on my physical and mental health. It would have been far better all round for my parent to have had professional care. Sibling insisted this wasn't to be (protecting inheritance) then piled it on about me doing "my" half-share. Except I also had to hold down a full time job, parent two children and run my own household around "my half" (which I didn't want to do, and knew I didn't have the health or capacity for), whilst they didn't work, had no family and lived for free off the bank of Mum and Dad.

It was a horrific period of time. I wish I had set and maintained stronger boundaries. You offer what you are willing and able to do, but don't start trying to make your sibling take responsibily for your decision not to leave this to ASC. He is not obligated to provide ANY care of any sort, unless he wishes to do do.

Borntorunfast · 23/04/2026 13:12

SpainToday · 23/04/2026 12:58

I suppose my DH was "the brother" in a similar situation a few years ago. We live at the other end of the country and any hands on care was impossible. Also, I had recently undergone surgery, which was an added complication. DH realised his sister couldn't do it all either, so kept suggesting a care home. This was, IMO, the only sensible option. He was quite happy to make calls and enquiries but it was difficult to get the full picture from his sister and this made things harder.

In the end, the relative did go into a care home, which was a relief for everyone, but please don't think that just because a relative is miles away, they don't care. Sometimes geography makes things impossible.

Your DH sounds lovely and in the circs you describe, I can't imagine anyone thought he'd need to do more - the difference being that he took an interest and helped out as far as he could. That's not the case with my DB. I totally understand that the distance means much is impossible for him; it's not that, it's the fact that he hasn't called or messaged me once in nearly 3 weeks to ask - how can I help? What can I do? Is mum telling me everything?

The difficulty is that this was sudden. Mum was independent and fine, until her accident. Everything changed within a split-second. So while I've been looking at next steps (AND simultaneously dealing with her immediate care) he's been gliding through his life without much of a care in the world. It would have been good if he said - I can't help with the hands-on, but I can get a plan for the next step. He didn't. He has left it all to me. It really doesn't sound like that was the case with your DH.

I hope you've recovered well from your surgery.

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SpainToday · 23/04/2026 12:58

I suppose my DH was "the brother" in a similar situation a few years ago. We live at the other end of the country and any hands on care was impossible. Also, I had recently undergone surgery, which was an added complication. DH realised his sister couldn't do it all either, so kept suggesting a care home. This was, IMO, the only sensible option. He was quite happy to make calls and enquiries but it was difficult to get the full picture from his sister and this made things harder.

In the end, the relative did go into a care home, which was a relief for everyone, but please don't think that just because a relative is miles away, they don't care. Sometimes geography makes things impossible.

Irritatingalex · 23/04/2026 11:33

What you are doing is not sustainable. Your DB is a selfish twat but if he lives 4 hrs away there’s not much he can do on a practical level. There’s no good reason why he can’t phone her daily etc and I would bluntly tell him this. Show him this thread or list to him in writing what you have done compared to what he has done.

Tell him you’re at breaking point, you can’t do it all any more, and the time has come for you and he to decide together with your DM how she should live in the future. It seems to me that she needs to move into a care home, or a supported living place, or have a live-in carer if she can afford it. Does she own her house? If so, you might find that the thought of his possible inheritance galvanises your DB into action.

WhatAMarvelousTune · 23/04/2026 11:20

Swiftie1878 · 23/04/2026 09:32

I’m so sorry you are going through this, and for your poor mum - what a horrible thing to happen.

A message for your brother:

I need to be very clear about the situation with Mum.
For the past two weeks I’ve been providing full-time care alongside work and the kids, and I can’t continue like this. It’s not sustainable.
Mum has now lost sight in her eye, and she isn’t able to live independently right now. This means ongoing care needs to be put in place.
From x date, I will not be able to keep doing daily care, hospital runs, and everything else on my own.
We need to divide responsibility properly. I need you to step in and take on a share of this—whether that’s coming to stay with her, having her with you for a period, or taking responsibility for arranging and managing external care.
If you’re not able to do hands-on care, then I need you to take the lead on organising support (social services, carers, finances, etc.), because it can’t all sit with me.
Please come back to me by x day/time with what you can take on so we can put a plan in place.
This isn’t optional anymore—I can’t carry on doing this alone.

It’s nicely worded and lays it all out clearly, but if someone doesn’t want to do it, telling them it’s not optional won’t change anything. Because ultimately, it is optional, in the sense that if he doesn’t do it, no one will force him. You can’t make someone care (either care emotionally, or care physically).

I’m not saying OP shouldn’t send it, her brother should be aware of the situation and the needs involved. But there’s a lot of comments on this thread along the lines of “just tell him he has to” “it’s not a choice” “tell him to pay you instead” “say he has to take her for a week to give you a break” and none of it works for someone who just isn’t going to do it. There is no option to “just make him”.

Borntorunfast · 23/04/2026 11:00

Swiftie1878 · 23/04/2026 09:32

I’m so sorry you are going through this, and for your poor mum - what a horrible thing to happen.

A message for your brother:

I need to be very clear about the situation with Mum.
For the past two weeks I’ve been providing full-time care alongside work and the kids, and I can’t continue like this. It’s not sustainable.
Mum has now lost sight in her eye, and she isn’t able to live independently right now. This means ongoing care needs to be put in place.
From x date, I will not be able to keep doing daily care, hospital runs, and everything else on my own.
We need to divide responsibility properly. I need you to step in and take on a share of this—whether that’s coming to stay with her, having her with you for a period, or taking responsibility for arranging and managing external care.
If you’re not able to do hands-on care, then I need you to take the lead on organising support (social services, carers, finances, etc.), because it can’t all sit with me.
Please come back to me by x day/time with what you can take on so we can put a plan in place.
This isn’t optional anymore—I can’t carry on doing this alone.

This is really good and I'll use that, thank you - it's nice and neutral but sets it all out clearly.

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Borntorunfast · 23/04/2026 10:59

BruFord · 22/04/2026 16:02

@Blossomtoes That's what I've heard from friends who are currently in this situation, that professional carers still need to be monitored, plus the shopping needs to be done, getting Mum/Dad to medical appointments, etc. It doesn't just happen.

My Dad is still relatively independent and can do most of this himself, but I don't see how it's possible to be completely uninvolved when their care needs increase - unless you really don't care about them or the sibling who's doing everything.

Exactly this.

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Borntorunfast · 23/04/2026 10:55

dontmalbeconme · 22/04/2026 14:06

Sounds like you had no boundaries and were doing far too much. You sister on the other hand maintained healthy boundaries. Professional carers really should have been involved if you were taking on more than you were happy and willing to do.

OP's brother doesn't NEED to do anything. No-one is obligated to be an unpaid carer.

For everyone, including the one needing care, it's better to get a package of professional care in place, rather than relatives running themselves ragged trying to take on an unsustainable job.

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Can you please stop? Life is not black and white. Things don't get tied up in a bow. There are HUGE gaps in social care, no matter how much you say "just get them involved, they'll do it". THEY WON'T.

And I've already told you that THAT'S what this is about - the mental load. The giving a shit about someone you love. The having someone else to talk to about what do to. The having someone else to help with the research, the phone calls.

The social care system is f**ked. The NHS likewise. Care is patchy, variable, not joined up and in many cases missing entirely. There will never be "someone" who can help navigate it all. That's not how it works - I have actual, lived experience of the social care system, which I presume you do not.

As an example, this week I have arranged physio for my mum as her balance is shot due to losing the sight in one eye. That means she's less independent and more likely to fall over in future. This physio is not available on the NHS as she has no 'physical' need for it - she's not injured her body, therefore she does not need physio. I have also arranged for a second opinion, contacted PALS, researched a different hospital, on the off chance that a more specialist hospital may be able to save at least some sight in her damaged eye. Again, this is not available as a "service" because as far as the NHS is concerned she's getting treatment.

So, which "professionals" do you propose do things like that? Adult care, a social worker, "the council", her GP (who she hasn't seen yet as she's still under hospital care), the doctors and nurses in the hospital whose job it is NOT to do those things? That's right - none of them would do stuff like this.

But this is something my brother could easily help with. The calls, the research. But that would require him to have taken some interest in what's happened to his mum - he hasn't, so neither of those things have occurred to him.

That's what I mean. So please please stop posting about bullying, boundaries, and these mythical professionals that you laughably think will step in, and a social care system that exists only in the fantasy of your own mind, and pray that you don't ever have to navigate all this for yourself or for someone you love.

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Swiftie1878 · 23/04/2026 09:32

I’m so sorry you are going through this, and for your poor mum - what a horrible thing to happen.

A message for your brother:

I need to be very clear about the situation with Mum.
For the past two weeks I’ve been providing full-time care alongside work and the kids, and I can’t continue like this. It’s not sustainable.
Mum has now lost sight in her eye, and she isn’t able to live independently right now. This means ongoing care needs to be put in place.
From x date, I will not be able to keep doing daily care, hospital runs, and everything else on my own.
We need to divide responsibility properly. I need you to step in and take on a share of this—whether that’s coming to stay with her, having her with you for a period, or taking responsibility for arranging and managing external care.
If you’re not able to do hands-on care, then I need you to take the lead on organising support (social services, carers, finances, etc.), because it can’t all sit with me.
Please come back to me by x day/time with what you can take on so we can put a plan in place.
This isn’t optional anymore—I can’t carry on doing this alone.

WhatNoRaisins · 23/04/2026 09:17

BIossomtoes · 23/04/2026 08:27

I have no words for anyone who would abandon their elderly parents in that way. Or at least I do but I imagine they’d get me banned.

Our consciences are clear. This approach meant that our family member was placed in a suitable placement that met their needs and that they felt happy and safe in. If having a sensible conversation with social services and the hospital was an option then we would have taken it. It's a very adversarial system in my experience.

TheoriginalMrsDarcy · 23/04/2026 08:34

If he can't help out with providing physical care, then he can help out financially. Get him to pay a larger contribution to help you out. Even if your mum is entitled to social care, she will still need extra financial, you to visit to help any additional care, form filling etc... petrol to visit mum or to take her places. Ignore the BS that he says he sorry and grateful and take a chunk of money to help you out instead.

BIossomtoes · 23/04/2026 08:27

I have no words for anyone who would abandon their elderly parents in that way. Or at least I do but I imagine they’d get me banned.

SpainToday · 23/04/2026 08:22

WhatNoRaisins · 22/04/2026 14:21

In our case we refused to go to the hospital when they were admitted or talk to them until a package was put in place. It didn't feel good but we were advised that it was the only way that we could get social services to help. We simply didn't live near enough to provide regular support with things like shopping or laundry.

This is good advice. Social Services are VERY reluctant to act if they think relatives will do it instead

Velvian · 22/04/2026 19:51

Borntorunfast · 21/04/2026 21:15

Just on this - the social worker was wrong. My parents were entitled to free care. They have no money at all. I got the charges dropped in the end, but not before they threatened legal action. Their social worker was unbelievably shit and made things so much worse, not just on one occasion.

Your phrase: "You have to accept that it works according to the care act and not the way you would like it to" is a bit off tbh: I'm not a toddler stamping my feet. I'm someone who has seen first hand how terrible the system is, how it fails people all the time, and how individual social workers can and do get it wrong.

It is not realistic to expect social workers to know what the contribution will be before a financial assessment has taken place. Even after for that matter. The Financial Assessment Team will help with that.

The Care Act combined with each individual's specific circumstances is similar to trying to predict the winning lottery numbers. You have X amount of scenarios outlined in the Care Act, multiplied by X number of variables in each person's, finances, property, people living in their homes etc.

You need to be prepared that your mum may need to make a contribution from her income, particularly if it turns out she needs residential care.

BruFord · 22/04/2026 16:50

BIossomtoes · 22/04/2026 16:40

When my parents eventually went into a care home I added up the number of people who regularly input into their care at home. It was 13 including me. Their cleaner did a massive amount and really stepped up. I still had the mental load and it was only me who got the 4am phone calls. No professional carer is ever going to do that.

@Blossomtoes Exactly and in @Borntorunfast's situation, I don't see why her brother can't be one of the emergency contacts.

Having her sister added as an emergency contact was extremely helpful to my friend whose Mum had a stroke. Just the fact that she could have some days off from answering the calls.

BIossomtoes · 22/04/2026 16:40

BruFord · 22/04/2026 16:02

@Blossomtoes That's what I've heard from friends who are currently in this situation, that professional carers still need to be monitored, plus the shopping needs to be done, getting Mum/Dad to medical appointments, etc. It doesn't just happen.

My Dad is still relatively independent and can do most of this himself, but I don't see how it's possible to be completely uninvolved when their care needs increase - unless you really don't care about them or the sibling who's doing everything.

When my parents eventually went into a care home I added up the number of people who regularly input into their care at home. It was 13 including me. Their cleaner did a massive amount and really stepped up. I still had the mental load and it was only me who got the 4am phone calls. No professional carer is ever going to do that.

BruFord · 22/04/2026 16:02

BIossomtoes · 22/04/2026 14:12

For everyone, including the one needing care, it's better to get a package of professional care in place, rather than relatives running themselves ragged trying to take on an unsustainable job.

Says someone who’s never done it. The care package has to be managed. Sometimes the carers just don’t show up. Professional carers don’t do shopping, laundry, financial management, medical appointments and a whole plethora of other things. The only way @Badbadbunny’s sister could have “boundaries” was because she was shouldering the entire load.

@Blossomtoes That's what I've heard from friends who are currently in this situation, that professional carers still need to be monitored, plus the shopping needs to be done, getting Mum/Dad to medical appointments, etc. It doesn't just happen.

My Dad is still relatively independent and can do most of this himself, but I don't see how it's possible to be completely uninvolved when their care needs increase - unless you really don't care about them or the sibling who's doing everything.

Badbadbunny · 22/04/2026 15:18

dontmalbeconme · 22/04/2026 15:12

But if you hadn't stepped up and done the care, the DSis would have had to accrpt carers, or do the care herself.

FWIW, I do understand, as I was in a similar situation, and was bullied and guilted into providing far, far more care than I was willing or able to provide, and it nearly destroyed me. I wish I'd held my boundaries and point blank refused. It was really because sibling wanted to protect their inheritance. (Sibling did share care).

No, Mother would have just ended up injuring herself even more, maybe even freezing to death, before Sister turned up and noticed.

dontmalbeconme · 22/04/2026 15:12

Badbadbunny · 22/04/2026 14:52

It was, because it was 2 against 1. Mother refused to have carers, so without Sister being on board to "persuade" her, carers weren't an option. I arranged a gardener, but Mother literally threw him off her premises. There's no way she'd have had a carer in the house without both Sister and I being there the first few times to get her used to it (force her to accept it) as Mother always played us off against each other and it was a thankless task getting anything done without a "joint" effort.

As it was, when she was blue lighted to hospital, she kept ripping off her IV drip and tried to walk out in just her nightgown several times when we weren't there to literally keep her on the trolley in A&E. Finally, Sister finally stepped up to do her bit as I literally couldn't be there 24/7 for the 48 hours she was stuck on a trolley in an A&E corridor with the staff just waiting for her to die!

But if you hadn't stepped up and done the care, the DSis would have had to accrpt carers, or do the care herself.

FWIW, I do understand, as I was in a similar situation, and was bullied and guilted into providing far, far more care than I was willing or able to provide, and it nearly destroyed me. I wish I'd held my boundaries and point blank refused. It was really because sibling wanted to protect their inheritance. (Sibling did share care).

Seelybe · 22/04/2026 15:06

Ponderingwindow · 20/04/2026 19:03

You have to accept that your brother isn’t going to upend his life. People have many reasons to not become caregivers and they aren’t always selfish.

then you need to decide how to manage your own life. What you are doing is not sustainable.

@Borntorunfast had a very similar situation, worse in some ways because brother was quite local but just cba even to visit.
No way of forcing someone to do the right thing. You can only address your mum's care needs going forward, whether that be care home/supported living/carers going in. Get the social care assessment ASAP and go from there.
You will always carry the resentment against your useless brother who seems to be relying on distance to do nothing. Doubtless he will expect equal inheritance when the time comes, which is another story...

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