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IneedAniffler · 18/04/2026 01:49

Very long story short, I work in an unregulated industry as a self-employed contractor. I provide a professional service in what can be quite a high-pressure environment, and I take a lot of pride in what I do.

Today, just before I was due to deliver a service, another person working there (in a separate but related role) slapped me hard on the backside. He clearly thought it was “banter” or playful, but I was completely shocked.

I reacted immediately and told him in no uncertain terms that it was unacceptable and that he must never do anything like that again. He apologised straight away, and the contractor (who works with both of us) also apologised, as did others present.

The issue is that I then had to go straight on and deliver a half-hour professional service as if nothing had happened, and then go straight to another client meeting. I didn’t really have time to process it at all.

Now I’m home, it’s all hit me properly and I feel incredibly upset. I feel violated, embarrassed, angry, and quite shaken. I also feel a bit stupid even writing this, because technically everyone has apologised and it’s “dealt with”, but it doesn’t feel dealt with to me at all.

There’s no HR in this situation as I’m self-employed, and this isn’t a traditional workplace. I’m just trying to work out whether I’m overreacting, and what (if anything) I should do next.

WWYD?

OP posts:
fromthegecko · 18/04/2026 14:00

SusieMyersonAndAssociates · 18/04/2026 13:43

To be very frank, ask yourself is this is the kind of person you would want to look after and carry your loved one to their final destination

A good reason to try for a caution or conviction, which would likely be reported in the local paper. Grieving relatives would be queuing up to not have him as bearer.

And the paper would love the story. What a headline! Coffin bearer convicted of sexually assaulting funeral officiant. A shame the OP isn't a vicar – that would sound even crazier.

deeahgwitch · 18/04/2026 13:59

If only other men would speak up and speak out @IneedAniffler
The Funeral Director knows what he is like, how he upset FD’s wife with similar behaviour and yet FD still employs him 🙄☹️FFS
Bad things happen because good people do nothing.
I’m sick of it.
Men not calling other men out on their behaviour.
Cowards.

SusieMyersonAndAssociates · 18/04/2026 13:59

IneedAniffler · 18/04/2026 13:55

Of course the fear is i lose business as all the FDs know each other and will certainly not think it bad enough to report to police. They will all give me a wide berth and say "you say the wrong thing around niffler and she'll kick off, report you to the police, no sense of humour these days"

I am always overbooked, I have found huge success and I feel like I'm where I belong doing this meaningful work - it is a total dream 99% of the time.

Then this happens or I get a sleazy message or hear something enormously racist (im not British by heritage but by birth) to have the general feeling that the outcome will be me being dropped because I'm a risk and will make a fuss is quite exhausting in an industry where reputation, word of mouth and networks is the way of doing things.

It might all be fine and they might respect my choice to report if I do

But my gut is telling me I'll come off worse. Sorry that makes for bleak reading doesn't it :(

No, knowing the industry, I totally get it. It’s bleak.

dapsnotplimsolls · 18/04/2026 13:58

In that case, report it online but don't tell anyone.

RoseField1 · 18/04/2026 13:56

Midlifehereicome · 18/04/2026 13:37

You dealt with it and made your annoyance known. It was stupid of him but surely not worth ruining his career / business. It happened to me years ago i just said please don't do that again and moved on without a second thought. People that are saying its battery or SA its not at all in the same categories in my opinion.

He's not safe in the workplace with women. So yes, he should have his career threatened over it. Only that sort of threat might make him change his behaviour.

TalkingintheDark · 18/04/2026 13:56

QuintadosMalvados · 18/04/2026 13:41

Oh I agree if he hit her it's assault.
So what ARE the factors that would make it sexual assault then as opposed to just assault?

For your benefit, I googled it:

“The bottom (buttocks) is considered a private area, particularly in the context of personal safety, bodily autonomy, and social norms.
Wikipedia
Key points regarding the bottom as a private area include:

  • Definition of "Private Parts": Private parts are generally defined as areas of the body that are habitually covered by clothing in public, such as the buttocks, groin, and breasts.
  • Safety and Protection: In education about child safety, the buttocks are often listed alongside genitals and the anal area as "private parts" that should not be touched by others.
  • Sexual Harassment/Assault: Unwanted touching of a person's bottom is legally recognized as a form of sexual assault.
  • Context: While it is considered a private area in public, it is also a part of the body covered by clothing, and social norms generally dictate that it remains covered and private, especially in front of strangers.
  • Rape Crisis England & Wales”

I’ll just highlight this bit again:

UNWANTED TOUCHING OF A PERSON’S BOTTOM IS LEGALLY RECOGNISED AS A FORM OF SEXUAL ASSAULT

Is that clear enough for you?

How can you not know this? Honestly, how?

IneedAniffler · 18/04/2026 13:55

Of course the fear is i lose business as all the FDs know each other and will certainly not think it bad enough to report to police. They will all give me a wide berth and say "you say the wrong thing around niffler and she'll kick off, report you to the police, no sense of humour these days"

I am always overbooked, I have found huge success and I feel like I'm where I belong doing this meaningful work - it is a total dream 99% of the time.

Then this happens or I get a sleazy message or hear something enormously racist (im not British by heritage but by birth) to have the general feeling that the outcome will be me being dropped because I'm a risk and will make a fuss is quite exhausting in an industry where reputation, word of mouth and networks is the way of doing things.

It might all be fine and they might respect my choice to report if I do

But my gut is telling me I'll come off worse. Sorry that makes for bleak reading doesn't it :(

OP posts:
DollydaydreamTheThird · 18/04/2026 13:52

What happened to you was sexual assault. You know it, I know it and he knows it. You know this man has done it to others who probably felt as violated and angry as you do now. Get the silly old fucker sacked so he can't do it to anyone else who is just trying to do their job.

OnlyHasEyesForLoki · 18/04/2026 13:47

Report to the police. This is a sexually motivated assault. As another poster wrote above, write a full account including date, time and names of witnesses. How appalling!!

Villanousvillans · 18/04/2026 13:45

Jesus fucking Christ! Bless, it was a joke, it was banter, poor love might lose his job!

How many more excuses can we have on here for this totally unacceptable male behaviour?

I was just wondering what I would feel if this was my daughter being assaulted and I would be outraged, I would say yes, report it to the police, do it now.

SusieMyersonAndAssociates · 18/04/2026 13:43

To be very frank, ask yourself is this is the kind of person you would want to look after and carry your loved one to their final destination

QuintadosMalvados · 18/04/2026 13:41

Tryagain26 · 18/04/2026 13:17

No it doesn't. What matters is that this man assaulted OP. He touched /hit her without her consent. It doesn't make a scrap of difference that he might have thought it was a joke.
What matters is OP didn't want him to hit her and he did.
It's definitely assault and it could also be sexual assault

Oh I agree if he hit her it's assault.
So what ARE the factors that would make it sexual assault then as opposed to just assault?

sunnybaros · 18/04/2026 13:41

I'm sorry that happened to you, it is just not acceptable, especially given that you were about to walk in to a funeral environment. You wouldn't randomly walk in and slap someone around the head, so how is if different.

As you know the Funeral Director, I would write to them and outline how upset you remain that this happened, and take it from there.

Years ago, I was working in an office and was bent over a printer trying to sort out why it was not working. One of our drivers (it was a logistics office) walked past me and physically grabbed my backside full on. My immediate response was to back kick him in the balls. He had the nerve to complain that I had kicked him. When I explained to my employer that he had sexually assaulted me, he was suspended for a fortnight without pay. There was no "HR department" back then, but if there had been, that is where I would have headed. As others have said, maybe seek some input from ACAS.

Good luck, and I hope you manage to reach a resolution.

SusieMyersonAndAssociates · 18/04/2026 13:40

Midlifehereicome · 18/04/2026 13:37

You dealt with it and made your annoyance known. It was stupid of him but surely not worth ruining his career / business. It happened to me years ago i just said please don't do that again and moved on without a second thought. People that are saying its battery or SA its not at all in the same categories in my opinion.

It is absolutely worth ruining his career. He shouldn’t be doing the job he does with his mindset. Would you be saying this if he was a doctor or a teacher? Of course not. FD work with vulnerable people every single day. They should not be allowed to behave like this and continue to do so.

RogueFemale · 18/04/2026 13:38

@IneedAniffler Another vote for reporting to the police. It's assault and there were plenty of witnesses. I would do it in person at a police station.

I was physically attacked by a woman once (ex-friend) and I wasn't injured but I had a witness and the police took it very seriously. She was prosecuted and pleaded guilty and magistrates gave her a conditional discharge. That was enough justice for me, and bet she won't do it again.

I would not pursue civil litigation.

Foxglovex · 18/04/2026 13:37

Chocaholick · 18/04/2026 13:21

And if he slaps her back?

What does that even mean?

Are you saying do I want him on the sex offenders register for slapping her back?

Just to draw a line under it I have read more of ops posts, this dickheads history and the industry they work in, he needs punishing! How? I don't know I am not a legal expert.

Midlifehereicome · 18/04/2026 13:37

You dealt with it and made your annoyance known. It was stupid of him but surely not worth ruining his career / business. It happened to me years ago i just said please don't do that again and moved on without a second thought. People that are saying its battery or SA its not at all in the same categories in my opinion.

Woodfiresareamazing · 18/04/2026 13:33

Chocaholick · 18/04/2026 13:12

You would be sexually harassed regardless of how you look (which I’m sure is lovely), so don’t change anything. One of my colleagues was shocked at a Christmas party when a male colleague said ‘I was watching your breasts move up and down as you blew that balloon up’ - she’s in her 60s, and certainly doesn’t ’dress for the male gaze’ IYSWIM

It's just men being (sleazy fucking arsehole) men.

And before someone pops up saying 'it's not all men', yes I know, but it's too fucking many.

Almost every woman I know has been a victim of some form of sexual harassment and/or assault. I'm in my late 60s now, and it's not getting better, if anything it's worse.

The horrific Giselle Pelicot trial showed just how many men are happy to assault women. Not one man who saw his 'advert' reported her ex-husband.

Not one.

I applaud you OP for calling it out when it happened, as often we are too shocked/upset/afraid to do so.

Take whatever action you feel is necessary.

TalkingintheDark · 18/04/2026 13:29

oviraptor21 · 18/04/2026 13:22

He absolutely would expect to lose his job. Quite possibly gross misconduct and immediate dismissal.

Agreed. This man shouldn’t be working in this job, full stop.

He shouldn’t be in any role where he can treat women like this.

TalkingintheDark · 18/04/2026 13:27

Absolutely you should report this to the police, OP. This is a sexual assault, and this man is a serial sex offender. Men like him need to suffer the consequences of their actions (the bollockings he’s received have clearly been water off a duck’s back) and not be in a position where they can do this to yet more women, possibly girls too.

I’m really sorry this happened to you; I can perfectly imagine the distress it caused you and the cognitive dissonance and emotional strain of having to carry on and conduct the funeral as normal in the direct aftermath of a humiliating sexual assault.

This man clearly has no respect for women at all, and enjoys exercising his control and being able to demonstrate so clearly his contempt for women. This isn’t harmless ignorance. He’s been enabled for long enough.

The levels of misogyny from the women on here justifying or minimising this are just heartbreaking. What a long way we still have to go when so many women still believe we don’t deserve better than this.

oviraptor21 · 18/04/2026 13:22

Growlybear83 · 18/04/2026 10:48

Of course he doesn’t deserve to lose his job. It was the wrong thing to do but it was a smack on the bum and the sort of thing that women have been dealing with themselves for years and years. .

He absolutely would expect to lose his job. Quite possibly gross misconduct and immediate dismissal.

RoseField1 · 18/04/2026 13:22

QuintadosMalvados · 18/04/2026 12:08

Nope.
Intent matters.
Absolutely it does.
A man who slaps a woman on the bum may well trying to be amusing and not actually getting off sexually on it.

A man upskirting is very different.
Saying, "oh I just thought it was funny" won't wash with anybody.
Because the intent is clearly sexual and it's not in plain sight in the way a slap on the bottom is.

What's wrong with you that you can't see that?

I'm not saying OP should tolerate this at all either.
There should be some comeback for this man. Absolutely.

If the police get involved in this, I imagine they'd have to prove it was not done on jest.

The police would not have to prove anything of the sort! Are you ok? Intent is irrelevant, she was assaulted, and the fact it was on a private area makes it a sexual assault. If the perpetrator is too stupid and misogynistic to realise that smacking a woman's buttocks without consent is in fact a sexual assault not a bit of a laugh then the fact that he didn't intend it to be such makes fuck all difference!

fromthegecko · 18/04/2026 13:21

Not disproportionate to try to get him blackballed (up to you how you do it: if your FD customers are loyal you could refuse to work with any that employs him).

Not disproportionate to report him to the police for battery. If he accepts a caution it can be publicised.

His behaviour seems to be escalating: hitting the officiant of a funeral is unhinged.

Chocaholick · 18/04/2026 13:21

Foxglovex · 18/04/2026 13:01

A slap to the face would hurt a damn sight more and is done maliciously so yes as slap to the face by someone intending to cause harm I would treat differently. A slap on the arse is humiliating and unacceptable and I would never defend it. It is something which needs to be dealt with.
All I am saying is, I probably would not want him on the sex offenders register if I felt there was absolutely no chance of it happening again.

And if he slaps her back?

ArtAngel · 18/04/2026 13:20

Is the FD a member of the NAFD?

If so I would report contact them, and ask what recourse you have being assaulted / sexually assaulted by a person tis FD regularly employs.

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