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IneedAniffler · 18/04/2026 01:49

Very long story short, I work in an unregulated industry as a self-employed contractor. I provide a professional service in what can be quite a high-pressure environment, and I take a lot of pride in what I do.

Today, just before I was due to deliver a service, another person working there (in a separate but related role) slapped me hard on the backside. He clearly thought it was “banter” or playful, but I was completely shocked.

I reacted immediately and told him in no uncertain terms that it was unacceptable and that he must never do anything like that again. He apologised straight away, and the contractor (who works with both of us) also apologised, as did others present.

The issue is that I then had to go straight on and deliver a half-hour professional service as if nothing had happened, and then go straight to another client meeting. I didn’t really have time to process it at all.

Now I’m home, it’s all hit me properly and I feel incredibly upset. I feel violated, embarrassed, angry, and quite shaken. I also feel a bit stupid even writing this, because technically everyone has apologised and it’s “dealt with”, but it doesn’t feel dealt with to me at all.

There’s no HR in this situation as I’m self-employed, and this isn’t a traditional workplace. I’m just trying to work out whether I’m overreacting, and what (if anything) I should do next.

WWYD?

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deeahgwitch · 18/04/2026 18:42

Anyone else wish men would man up and call out sexist behaviour.

Foxglovex · 18/04/2026 18:30

moderate · 18/04/2026 18:01

Yes, I was being facetious. We know you did not forget to answer the question; it’s completely transparent that you were unable to give a satisfactory answer to the question.

I take it that is aimed at me?

Do you ever have a gut feeling about something?

If he seemed genuinely remorseful, embarrassed, mortified? If in my gut I thought he was genuinely sorry, just an absolute knob and not some kind of sexual predator. I would still want him dealt with but I would be unlikely to go down the legal route.

If that answer is not satisfactory then that's on you not me. I look forward to seeing a post where you are telling an OP to "trust her gut"

moderate · 18/04/2026 18:27

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Did you miss the bit where he did it before to someone else and “sincerely” apologised for it?

Doone22 · 18/04/2026 18:21

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moderate · 18/04/2026 18:01

Yes, I was being facetious. We know you did not forget to answer the question; it’s completely transparent that you were unable to give a satisfactory answer to the question.

QuintadosMalvados · 18/04/2026 17:46

Weeklyreport · 18/04/2026 17:43

JFC, still pushing your pathetic nonsense on this thread? Why are you so keen to discourage a woman from reporting a sex crime?

Because I doubt anything will come of it if she does.

lottiegarbanzo · 18/04/2026 17:44

IneedAniffler · 18/04/2026 17:34

I also went as ballistic as I could at him in that moment whilst having the bereaved family at the forefront of my focus, who were just around the corner with their dead wife/mum/nan

Yes but I mean they’d have no doubt or hesitation about taking it further afterwards. Loudly.

One day he going to mess with the wrong woman and the company that hired him is going to be in big trouble reputationally - because they knew.

This is why a written record, even just an emailed summary of your chat, is so important. They cannot say they didn’t know, or that no-one has complained.

Weeklyreport · 18/04/2026 17:43

QuintadosMalvados · 18/04/2026 17:11

How can you write that you're not taking further action and go to the police, though?
If you do get the police involved, then you have put it in writing you're not taking further action so it could be seen as you flip-flopping. In the - imo highly, highly unlikely- event this goes to trial and that won't look good at all.

I don't get this 'quiet word' stuff, either.
If you get the police involved, they're obliged to look into it.

You must think really hard if you're going to get the police involved.

JFC, still pushing your pathetic nonsense on this thread? Why are you so keen to discourage a woman from reporting a sex crime?

IneedAniffler · 18/04/2026 17:41

QuintadosMalvados · 18/04/2026 17:35

I know. I'd feel the same as you. You've given away a lot of details about yourself here. Particularly the company you work for, though. I think maybe you should consider this.
I'll just say I really do think this guy should be reprimanded in some way and leave it at that.

I know- i will probably have this removed soon - although I'm not really fussed if anyone knows me on here because haven't done anything wrong. Im used to being identified.

I dont work for them, they engage me for the client - they only make up a small amount of my contracts thankfully so if I chose to be unavailable to them going forward it wouldn't make a difference

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Weeklyreport · 18/04/2026 17:40

MissFancyDay · 18/04/2026 16:26

I don't think anyone here is concerned about his career. There is only concern for the OP and her reputation in a very male dominated sexist industry.

It's very easy for people to be warriors behind a keyboard. Op you should go as far as you feel comfortable doing.

Sadly you are mistaken. If you read the full thread you will see multiple posters have spoken about not wanting to ruin this man's job, his marriage, his reputation or his life.

QuintadosMalvados · 18/04/2026 17:35

IneedAniffler · 18/04/2026 17:14

I know. I just haven't been able to decide - I'm thinking out loud on here and am grateful to repliers

I will talk to people that can help me directly on Monday morning.

I know. I'd feel the same as you. You've given away a lot of details about yourself here. Particularly the company you work for, though. I think maybe you should consider this.
I'll just say I really do think this guy should be reprimanded in some way and leave it at that.

IneedAniffler · 18/04/2026 17:34

lottiegarbanzo · 18/04/2026 17:29

Can you imagine the reaction from a 20-30yo woman experiencing this? They’d go ballistic.

Honestly I think you have to be 45+ to have any notion of this sort of behaviour ever having been considered ‘humorous’, or casual sexual assault being in any way normal. Older to remember it happening in the workplace.

I’m in that older age group and really, I see this as the sort of shit that used to happen in the 1960s-70s but died out in the 80s, so long before I entered the workplace. The perpetrators now retired.

I would always have gone ballistic. I do understand the shock and paralysis and business concerns and I haven’t been self-employed but it wouldn’t have occurred to me not to complain loudly (possibly to my detriment). I feel like I’m reading a thread from forty years ago.

I’m not trying to undermine the reality of your shitty experience. I am saying that the people involved are absolutely deluded if they imagine they can carry on sweeping this sort of shit under the carpet. Younger women won’t let them - and THEY are woefully, knowingly failing to protect all women.

I also went as ballistic as I could at him in that moment whilst having the bereaved family at the forefront of my focus, who were just around the corner with their dead wife/mum/nan

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IneedAniffler · 18/04/2026 17:32

lottiegarbanzo · 18/04/2026 17:29

Can you imagine the reaction from a 20-30yo woman experiencing this? They’d go ballistic.

Honestly I think you have to be 45+ to have any notion of this sort of behaviour ever having been considered ‘humorous’, or casual sexual assault being in any way normal. Older to remember it happening in the workplace.

I’m in that older age group and really, I see this as the sort of shit that used to happen in the 1960s-70s but died out in the 80s, so long before I entered the workplace. The perpetrators now retired.

I would always have gone ballistic. I do understand the shock and paralysis and business concerns and I haven’t been self-employed but it wouldn’t have occurred to me not to complain loudly (possibly to my detriment). I feel like I’m reading a thread from forty years ago.

I’m not trying to undermine the reality of your shitty experience. I am saying that the people involved are absolutely deluded if they imagine they can carry on sweeping this sort of shit under the carpet. Younger women won’t let them - and THEY are woefully, knowingly failing to protect all women.

Im 35 if that helps. But have been abused before quite badly.

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lottiegarbanzo · 18/04/2026 17:29

Can you imagine the reaction from a 20-30yo woman experiencing this? They’d go ballistic.

Honestly I think you have to be 45+ to have any notion of this sort of behaviour ever having been considered ‘humorous’, or casual sexual assault being in any way normal. Older to remember it happening in the workplace.

I’m in that older age group and really, I see this as the sort of shit that used to happen in the 1960s-70s but died out in the 80s, so long before I entered the workplace. The perpetrators now retired.

I would always have gone ballistic. I do understand the shock and paralysis and business concerns and I haven’t been self-employed but it wouldn’t have occurred to me not to complain loudly (possibly to my detriment). I feel like I’m reading a thread from forty years ago.

I’m not trying to undermine the reality of your shitty experience. I am saying that the people involved are absolutely deluded if they imagine they can carry on sweeping this sort of shit under the carpet. Younger women won’t let them - and THEY are woefully, knowingly failing to protect all women.

Foxglovex · 18/04/2026 17:24

moderate · 18/04/2026 14:14

You forgot to answer the question.

I did not "forget" to answer the question. Why should I engage further if someone has to quote me on one word but choose to ignore how I made it clear this is not acceptable and something needs to be done, but hey who cares about the truth if it doesn't fit the narrative.

IneedAniffler · 18/04/2026 17:14

QuintadosMalvados · 18/04/2026 17:11

How can you write that you're not taking further action and go to the police, though?
If you do get the police involved, then you have put it in writing you're not taking further action so it could be seen as you flip-flopping. In the - imo highly, highly unlikely- event this goes to trial and that won't look good at all.

I don't get this 'quiet word' stuff, either.
If you get the police involved, they're obliged to look into it.

You must think really hard if you're going to get the police involved.

I know. I just haven't been able to decide - I'm thinking out loud on here and am grateful to repliers

I will talk to people that can help me directly on Monday morning.

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QuintadosMalvados · 18/04/2026 17:11

How can you write that you're not taking further action and go to the police, though?
If you do get the police involved, then you have put it in writing you're not taking further action so it could be seen as you flip-flopping. In the - imo highly, highly unlikely- event this goes to trial and that won't look good at all.

I don't get this 'quiet word' stuff, either.
If you get the police involved, they're obliged to look into it.

You must think really hard if you're going to get the police involved.

Dantalya · 18/04/2026 16:55

Midlifehereicome · 18/04/2026 13:37

You dealt with it and made your annoyance known. It was stupid of him but surely not worth ruining his career / business. It happened to me years ago i just said please don't do that again and moved on without a second thought. People that are saying its battery or SA its not at all in the same categories in my opinion.

Why are you so worried about this poor man and his big job?

IneedAniffler · 18/04/2026 16:38

Gettingbysomehow · 18/04/2026 16:32

Dignity Ltd lol. No dignity was shown to anyone that day.

Ha... yes, quite!

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BabooshkaHaHa · 18/04/2026 16:35

I am so sorry this happened to you— it’s horrible.

He has repeatedly committed a criminal offence and he doesn’t seem to think the law applies to him. His actions do seem to have been tolerated every single time — I have little to no doubt that he knows it’s wrong but experience has taught him he’ll get away with it.

It is assault and it’s a criminal offence for a good reason — it violates and traumatises — your feelings testify to that.

Age is not an excuse for breaking the law. Many serial rapists and killers would be walking the streets if their age allowed them to evade prosecution.

Only you can decide what you want to do in terms of legal action. But this guy gets away with it and will continue to do because too many people don’t treat his actions with the seriousness that they deserve.

IneedAniffler · 18/04/2026 16:35

knittedsloth · 18/04/2026 15:37

It does make for bleak reading. I am so sorry that this has happened to you. I can understand the fear of being blanked or boycotted and losing business because of this horrible incident that was absolutely nothing to do with the way that you conduct yourself.

I've been reading the thread with interest because I think it's very difficult to report an unpleasant sexist assault such as this one without severe consequences for the person reporting it. I think that first of all you can't actually believe that they have done such a thing. There's a mismatch between your experience and what was witnessed and what your mind is telling you should happen and is supposed to happen. Perhaps the other people who witnessed it also have this kind of cognitive dissonance where they can't really believe what's happened and also they want to forget all about it.

The breathtaking abuse of power is so shocking. Then there's the worry about it happening to somebody else which is pretty realistic. There is trying to think of ways that you could have prevented it happening (which are non-existent). Then there are the consequences. For the man, there don't seem to be any consequences other than a slight embarrassment at being shouted at.

I like the idea of him being reported to the police and them giving him a talking to, and I am reassured by the fact (thanks @Weeklyreport) that similar assaults have been punished in the courts. But your action will have consequences for you and it's trying to balance whether the consequences for you are going to inflict further damage to you, or whether they are going to make you feel vindicated.

Which way are you leaning at the moment?

Thank you for this lovely thoughtful post.

I'm leaning into calling up a respected and helpful celebrant, who trained me and has helped me before with a homophobic relative of a gay woman that had died and his attempts to humiliate her with his eulogy. She is incredible and often encourages us to "phone home" if we get in a situation

I think i will write down what happened, who was there, and why its an assault, and how I am treating it - then perhaps ask the crem manager to record it officially and inform the FDs that use him that this is what's happened, its being treated as an offensive action from him, he has apologised but I wish for it to be recognised- and add that I have decided not to take it further but would appreciate everyone's support in ensuring we have a safe environment to do our work, which is already sensitive, requiring safety and respect to everyone

Id like to report him to the police and might do, quietly and privately. Will see what my friend and mentor says as I bet she has dealt with this countless times

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Gettingbysomehow · 18/04/2026 16:32

IneedAniffler · 18/04/2026 14:44

Irs owned by Dignity LTD a private company

Dignity Ltd lol. No dignity was shown to anyone that day.

MissFancyDay · 18/04/2026 16:26

Chocaholick · 18/04/2026 16:10

This. All this talk of her ‘ruining his career’, ffs. HE is the one ruining his career.

I don't think anyone here is concerned about his career. There is only concern for the OP and her reputation in a very male dominated sexist industry.

It's very easy for people to be warriors behind a keyboard. Op you should go as far as you feel comfortable doing.

Chocaholick · 18/04/2026 16:25

IneedAniffler · 18/04/2026 16:16

I've also said a few times he's retired and just does the odd job - so its not a threat I can really weald

Look, speak to the police. At the very least he needs an embarrassing ‘talking to’ - sadly by other men as they’re the only ones he will have a modicum of respect for. Otherwise who will it be next time? Your daughter? Your friend?

JustSawJohnny · 18/04/2026 16:23

IneedAniffler · 18/04/2026 16:16

I've also said a few times he's retired and just does the odd job - so its not a threat I can really weald

The threat you can, and should weald IMO, is by reputation.

You are well within your rights to demand a meeting with him and the business owner of the grounds on which the incident occurred and make it cleat that, as in 2026 it is reasonable to assume that NOBODY is ignorant enough to not know that smacking the behind of another worker is in any way acceptable, that you will go ahead and assume that the action was an assault.

I would state that on this occasion you will not be taking the matter to the Police, although you are well entitled to, but that any further actions will result in you doing so.

He is a DINOSAUR! Do not be fooled into thinking you just have to put up with his shit OR forget about it now time has passed!