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To ponder legal action for being slapped on the arse

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IneedAniffler · 18/04/2026 01:49

Very long story short, I work in an unregulated industry as a self-employed contractor. I provide a professional service in what can be quite a high-pressure environment, and I take a lot of pride in what I do.

Today, just before I was due to deliver a service, another person working there (in a separate but related role) slapped me hard on the backside. He clearly thought it was “banter” or playful, but I was completely shocked.

I reacted immediately and told him in no uncertain terms that it was unacceptable and that he must never do anything like that again. He apologised straight away, and the contractor (who works with both of us) also apologised, as did others present.

The issue is that I then had to go straight on and deliver a half-hour professional service as if nothing had happened, and then go straight to another client meeting. I didn’t really have time to process it at all.

Now I’m home, it’s all hit me properly and I feel incredibly upset. I feel violated, embarrassed, angry, and quite shaken. I also feel a bit stupid even writing this, because technically everyone has apologised and it’s “dealt with”, but it doesn’t feel dealt with to me at all.

There’s no HR in this situation as I’m self-employed, and this isn’t a traditional workplace. I’m just trying to work out whether I’m overreacting, and what (if anything) I should do next.

WWYD?

OP posts:
Carnationbloom · 18/04/2026 12:16

liamharha · 18/04/2026 12:09

I wouldnt take it further ,highly.doubt he will be doing it again .
You dealt with it directly and recieved a apology .
I don't see what else you would gain except stress by taking it further with either the police or civilly .
Does the person who did it have a 'boss' or was they self employed ,if so you could possibly leave reviews about inappropriate behaviour to warm other clients .

Quite apart from not recognising the impact
on the OP, why on earth would you think he wouldn’t do it again??? This belies all logic and ignores that the OP says he has done it many times before??! Did you miss the posts also pointing out that sex offenders start exactly like this? ‘Small’ crimes building to larger ones, especially if they go unchecked.

let’s just think through the impact here of who and how people are impacted; OP’s feelings and wellbeing in the moment then sense of safety in the future. The family who had lost a loved one and were relying on the OP to be totally in the moment for them. Then there are the other victims yet to come because sure as hell he is going to do it again.

Dantalya · 18/04/2026 12:15

A small part of me dies inside every time I see a woman support a man who is behaving like this.

PrincessofWells · 18/04/2026 12:15

QuintadosMalvados · 18/04/2026 12:08

Nope.
Intent matters.
Absolutely it does.
A man who slaps a woman on the bum may well trying to be amusing and not actually getting off sexually on it.

A man upskirting is very different.
Saying, "oh I just thought it was funny" won't wash with anybody.
Because the intent is clearly sexual and it's not in plain sight in the way a slap on the bottom is.

What's wrong with you that you can't see that?

I'm not saying OP should tolerate this at all either.
There should be some comeback for this man. Absolutely.

If the police get involved in this, I imagine they'd have to prove it was not done on jest.

No they don't have to prove intent. It's about what the reasonable man would think, and I don't know any who would think this is OK.

Sexual assault is the touching of a body or body part without your consent.

Assault is causing the victim harm and or distress. It may be more difficult to prove the sexual part but this is certainly assault.

Scout2016 · 18/04/2026 12:14

Sorry OP that's horrible. The context makes it even worse. Well done speaking up.

I don't think talking to the police would be OTT, as you were assulted. He keeps doing it too - and in the workplace! - he isn't learning. What's he doing out of work if he thinks that's OK in it?

LongDarkTeatime · 18/04/2026 12:12

I’m also shocked by those minimising this.
@IneedAniffler if it’s ok I’m not going to focus on your appropriate shock, but on this man’s behaviour.

There is evidence that this man has physically targeted women with unwanted touching which could be viewed as both violent and sexual in nature. These known assaults have taken place in a work environment. After receiving past reprimands for this behaviour he has moved on to new targets/victims to potentially avoid further negative consequences.
This describes a repeated pattern of observed behaviour. I would ask what behaviour is unobserved and how can this be explored to safeguard vulnerable individuals?
@IneedAniffler please do take this further. Could you raise further concerns with the Funeral Director and also ask advice from ACAS or the Police?

Dantalya · 18/04/2026 12:11

Growlybear83 · 18/04/2026 10:48

Of course he doesn’t deserve to lose his job. It was the wrong thing to do but it was a smack on the bum and the sort of thing that women have been dealing with themselves for years and years. .

And that makes it ok? I am 55 and have been through the usual crap from men in the 80s etc. I want things to be much better for the next generation

liamharha · 18/04/2026 12:09

IneedAniffler · 18/04/2026 01:49

Very long story short, I work in an unregulated industry as a self-employed contractor. I provide a professional service in what can be quite a high-pressure environment, and I take a lot of pride in what I do.

Today, just before I was due to deliver a service, another person working there (in a separate but related role) slapped me hard on the backside. He clearly thought it was “banter” or playful, but I was completely shocked.

I reacted immediately and told him in no uncertain terms that it was unacceptable and that he must never do anything like that again. He apologised straight away, and the contractor (who works with both of us) also apologised, as did others present.

The issue is that I then had to go straight on and deliver a half-hour professional service as if nothing had happened, and then go straight to another client meeting. I didn’t really have time to process it at all.

Now I’m home, it’s all hit me properly and I feel incredibly upset. I feel violated, embarrassed, angry, and quite shaken. I also feel a bit stupid even writing this, because technically everyone has apologised and it’s “dealt with”, but it doesn’t feel dealt with to me at all.

There’s no HR in this situation as I’m self-employed, and this isn’t a traditional workplace. I’m just trying to work out whether I’m overreacting, and what (if anything) I should do next.

WWYD?

I wouldnt take it further ,highly.doubt he will be doing it again .
You dealt with it directly and recieved a apology .
I don't see what else you would gain except stress by taking it further with either the police or civilly .
Does the person who did it have a 'boss' or was they self employed ,if so you could possibly leave reviews about inappropriate behaviour to warm other clients .

EstherGreenwood63 · 18/04/2026 12:09

OP please do IGNORE the menz here to goad you and minimize. They are desperate individuals and love hanging around mumsnet.
This is awful and I would go scorched earth. He needs to lose his job the cunt. Then he might reflect on his appalling criminal behaviour. Very good luck to you. 💐

Dantalya · 18/04/2026 12:08

Growlybear83 · 18/04/2026 10:36

That’s not what I said at all and I think slapping someone’s bum is quite different to grabbing someone’s breast. If someone slapped my bum, or my daughter’s, then I would have done as others on this thread have suggested and told them to fuck off. If someone had grabbed a breast, my reaction would have been to slap them round the face or twist their bollocks, and also tell them to fuck off. But that would be the end of it if there was an apology and there wasn’t a repetition.

Of course slapping someone’s bum isn’t acceptable nowadays, but I don’t agree it’s the sort of serious sexual assault thst some people are making out on this thread. This happened in front of other people so it’s likely the man has already been reprimanded after the incident, and he will have realised from the OP’s reaction, and the reaction of others, that his action was not acceptable. It’s one thing to want to avoid seeing the man again at work but I think it’s a huge over reaction to take this further through his work and to possibly jeopardise his job, and quite ridiculous to consider going to the police.

*i think it’s a huge over reaction to take this further through his work and to possibly jeopardise his job’

Throughout history, poor men have been protected because of their jobs and reputation. No thanks. No more.

QuintadosMalvados · 18/04/2026 12:08

Weeklyreport · 18/04/2026 11:14

Calling someone silly for calling out your minimisation of sexual assault says a lot about you. Police involvement is the correct way of dealing with a repeat sexual offender. Sexual assault is not an attempt at very badly judged humour. What the hell is wrong with you? And it's interesting that you say flashing is "undoubtedly sexual violations" as a lot of people would actually see that as either funny or a bad attempt at being funny. Your entire post is about minimising this assault and any reasonable person can see that.

Nope.
Intent matters.
Absolutely it does.
A man who slaps a woman on the bum may well trying to be amusing and not actually getting off sexually on it.

A man upskirting is very different.
Saying, "oh I just thought it was funny" won't wash with anybody.
Because the intent is clearly sexual and it's not in plain sight in the way a slap on the bottom is.

What's wrong with you that you can't see that?

I'm not saying OP should tolerate this at all either.
There should be some comeback for this man. Absolutely.

If the police get involved in this, I imagine they'd have to prove it was not done on jest.

PrincessofWells · 18/04/2026 12:08

Report it to the police. It is then out of your hands and the decision about what to do about it is up to them.

I'm so sad this is still happening to women in 2026. I was a child of the 70s and I know of only one person my age who wasn't sexually assaulted, abused or raped. It may have improved but not enough.

Tryagain26 · 18/04/2026 12:07

That's terrible OP and it being just before a funeral where you are about to officiate seems to makes it so much worse somehow. I'm sorry this happened and you are not over reacting
I think you should make a formal complaint in writing to the Funeral director and perhaps also to the Crematorium. It's not banter, it's not just a joke he assaulted you and it seems as though he has done it before.
I find it hard to believe that anyone in 2026 thinks it's acceptable.

Inthenameoflove · 18/04/2026 12:05

Sam9769 · 18/04/2026 11:48

You can call the police. It is unlikely to be regarded as a sexual assault as it would be difficult to prove that his intention was sexual and not banter.
They may consider a charge of common assault which if he accepts, he would probably receive a caution. If not, it would go to trial and you would be called as a witness to give evidence and be subject to examination and cross examination in court together with others who were present. This would be a lengthy process. He may or may not be convicted.

You could take a civil action which would be costly and lengthy for you and you may or may not win.

Either option would undoubtedly take a lot of your time and a toll on your mental well being as these processes are long drawn out and emotionally draining for victims.
Ultimately, it depends on what price you want to pay to feel respected.

It is sexual assault. I can’t imagine any jury would think slapping someone in a private area as they are about to take a funeral is ‘banter’. But regardless of whether CPS chose to prosecute it would be on record for the inevitable time he does something else and someone reports. Thats adds credibility to the victim. So it’s significant to report if you can even if you don’t know what the outcome will be. Sadly men like this are know to escalate. Very serious sexual offenders often started with this sort of behaviour that goes unchecked.

Carnationbloom · 18/04/2026 12:04

@IneedAniffler And in case it isn’t clear from previous posters, in a normal business this would be be gross misconduct, instant dismissal and, in my company, HR would report the incident to the police.

Pessismistic · 18/04/2026 12:02

Oh yeh let the little fucker get what’s coming to him I’m sure if he got locked up he wouldn’t be wanting his arsed smacked by the blokes in prison would he.

IneedAniffler · 18/04/2026 12:02

tokennamechange · 18/04/2026 11:59

and what about the 'multiple other people' the FD knows he's done it to?

I'm sorry, I just don't see how you have so much faith in the FD taking this seriously given he has continued to hire this guy despite knowing he's done this multiple times. That doesn't come across as the actions of a decent person or a responsible employer.

No, i know

Probably because he feels he has to take it seriously if I do, but he cannot relate in any way to how it feels to have this happen to you. He is now probably quietly hoping it will all blow over because it always does with this kind of thing.

OP posts:
Dimpledaisies · 18/04/2026 12:01

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Pessismistic · 18/04/2026 12:01

Op do not waste your money and time on a legal route he needs the police to stop him no amount of money will fix how you feel honestly it will drag you down even if you did go the legal route the police will need to be informed so do that now he might be on file and this could be the one that gets him jailed you never know if he’s been reported before but they let him off with a caution the police are saying sexual assault has to stop so let them stop it. A few grand in the bank will not fix this. He took advantage of you in a situation that he should have shown respect he didn’t so he really doesn’t respect women does he. So show him he messed with the wrong woman and fuck up his life.

Towundertwo · 18/04/2026 12:01

The minimising on here is absolutely SHOCKING! The people saying legal action is too much? It definitely isn’t. I would speak to the police personally. We CANNOT as a nation, and especially women, allow this behaviour, it gives a message that this is okay and men will use that to take their actions further and further. I would go online and report.

Gillthepill · 18/04/2026 12:00

It’s an assault. Report to the police. The rest is just noise

Carnationbloom · 18/04/2026 11:59

Weeklyreport · 18/04/2026 11:57

I dont think people are saying they are the same. What's being questioned is your attitude to this assault: "if it’s just a one off then unfortunately chalk it down to that person is a d**khead & move on". If this is your view about this type of sex crime, why not apply it to other type of sex crimes. Where do you draw the line that once is once too often?

Oh, and saying just "move on" is where you give the dickhead a free pass.

Edited

Exactly this.

What if she has turned round and pulled his trousers down? Is that ok???

FML with this one and some of the responses.

tokennamechange · 18/04/2026 11:59

IneedAniffler · 18/04/2026 11:51

To answer your question

The FDs wife (who works with him so is always on jobs with us) dealt with it the way I did

She gave him a bollocking and he has kept hands to himself. I imagine the FD is happy with that if she is - she told me after it happened but it is common knowledge that this bearer is this kind of person.

Their family approach to it when it happened to her was to call him out and put him straight - she is formidable! And trust that he would learn his lesson, but when it happened to me - I am a lot younger than - I think it hit differently as im a contractor and also the person delivering the ceremony and they have a responsibility to me

and what about the 'multiple other people' the FD knows he's done it to?

I'm sorry, I just don't see how you have so much faith in the FD taking this seriously given he has continued to hire this guy despite knowing he's done this multiple times. That doesn't come across as the actions of a decent person or a responsible employer.

TheIceBear · 18/04/2026 11:58

orangespikeyfrog · 18/04/2026 11:16

Gosh how times have changed as a student in the 90s I was grabbed between the legs whilst at a bus stop by a man in a balaclava ,also in my twenties had the same by a drunk man in a pub I chased the first guy down the road and slapped the other round the face . No police involvement . If this happened in a work place I think if would be a hr matter not the police . Yes it was wrong but it was a slap on rthe bum I wouldn’t involve the police god that if the guy is genuinely remorseful and has been repremanded what are you going to gain from contacting the police the stress of a legal case and he’ll probably get a slap in the wrist

Edited

People are recounting these stories as though they are a badge of honor that they happened and they didn’t do anything about it. Stuff like this happened to me in the 00s and I did nothing about it either but that doesn’t make it ok or something that should continue in this day and age

Carnationbloom · 18/04/2026 11:57

Growlybear83 · 18/04/2026 11:53

You seem to have forgotten that the OP started this thread to ask foe people’s views on the action she was considering. @JustChillin70has given her views, as requested by the OP.

Oh behave. This thread is depressing. I can see years of progress unraveling before my eyes. Anyone remember ‘me too?’

I am old. I had many similar incidents as a late teen, early twenty year old. Each impacted me deeply and left me feeling anxious, depressed, humiliated, belittled. Hearing women minimise this assault is ludicrous.

Weeklyreport · 18/04/2026 11:57

IndyMamaRex · 18/04/2026 11:42

Yes they are sexual and offences but to compare the two is completely disrespectful to victims of rape. As they are not compatible & legally the police would deal with them differently. I’m not saying he’s get a bloody free pass where have you read that?

I dont think people are saying they are the same. What's being questioned is your attitude to this assault: "if it’s just a one off then unfortunately chalk it down to that person is a d**khead & move on". If this is your view about this type of sex crime, why not apply it to other type of sex crimes. Where do you draw the line that once is once too often?

Oh, and saying just "move on" is where you give the dickhead a free pass.

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