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Only knickers in the Co-op

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1981RickyVilla · 12/04/2026 18:02

A teenage girl (aged 15 or 16, roughly) in front of me in the Co-op was wearing a crop-top and a pair of knickers only. Not bikini bottoms, not short shorts but cotton M & S midi style knickers. I didn’t say anything (none of my business and she probably wouldn’t have approved my sartorial choices either). If I had been her mother, seeing her before she left the house, I would have said that it looked unhygienic and wasn’t an appropriate way to go to the shops.
YABU: People of whatever age can dress how they like when they go to the Co-op.
YANBU: A mini-skirt or pair of shorts are a minimum requirement when you’re off to the shops.

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x2boys · 13/04/2026 12:58

nomas · 13/04/2026 12:39

If you look down at the pavement, you won’t trip up.

But nobody should have to do that just beause they dont fancy looking at somebodys nether regions

x2boys · 13/04/2026 12:56

nomas · 13/04/2026 12:47

If they’re decent men, they can do what the Bible advises to do - guard your gaze (I.e. look away)

This isn’t a new problem, it’s been around for thousands of years, the dear widdle
men can cope.

I dont want to look at some womens bare backside either and im a straight femsle as i said earlier i waa presented with this very scenario on a very packed bus a few months ago i couldnt move to avert my eyes.

nomas · 13/04/2026 12:47

LeopardPrintFleece · 13/04/2026 12:42

Honestly I do feel for decent men sometimes - unbelievably there are a few.

I think there's only one person in this scenario 'centring' themselves and that's the person who thinks it's OK to walk round a supermarket in underwear.

If they’re decent men, they can do what the Bible advises to do - guard your gaze (I.e. look away)

This isn’t a new problem, it’s been around for thousands of years, the dear widdle
men can cope.

LeopardPrintFleece · 13/04/2026 12:42

nomas · 13/04/2026 12:16

He’s saying his discomfort is worse because he is a man, thereby centreing himself.

You really don’t need to stare at a woman’s bottom, you can look away, your eyes have the ability to swivel. And arses don’t hang out.

Honestly I do feel for decent men sometimes - unbelievably there are a few.

I think there's only one person in this scenario 'centring' themselves and that's the person who thinks it's OK to walk round a supermarket in underwear.

nomas · 13/04/2026 12:39

Dollymylove · 13/04/2026 12:37

Why should people have to look away and risk tripping up and breaking a bone because some gormless individual thinks its appropriate to leave their arse hanging out?
Just put some clothes on FFS

If you look down at the pavement, you won’t trip up.

nomas · 13/04/2026 12:38

Flushitdown · 13/04/2026 12:30

Arses DO hang out.

When young men wear their jeans below their bottom so that the whole of their underwear covered bottom is shown above the jeans waistband, that is hanging out.

When a woman wears a skirt in which her bum cheeks are visible beneath the hemline, that is hanging out.

Both are fashionable and common sights near me.

^ the skirt one is not hanging out. The mens jeans one is hanging out, I agree. But no one seems to criticise men here, it’s all about women.

Dollymylove · 13/04/2026 12:37

nomas · 13/04/2026 11:51

Given that the ONS statistic that the overwhelming majority—nearly 100%—of individuals who commit in-person indecent exposure (flashing) are male, we can make an educated guess that young teen girls aren’t wearing their clothes to distress others.

I’m a conservatively dressed woman, and I do think that women are being sold a lie that being naked = empowerment, but I don’t subscribe to the view that you can’t look away from women’s bodies, you absolutely can.

Why should people have to look away and risk tripping up and breaking a bone because some gormless individual thinks its appropriate to leave their arse hanging out?
Just put some clothes on FFS

nomas · 13/04/2026 12:36

Flushitdown · 13/04/2026 12:30

Arses DO hang out.

When young men wear their jeans below their bottom so that the whole of their underwear covered bottom is shown above the jeans waistband, that is hanging out.

When a woman wears a skirt in which her bum cheeks are visible beneath the hemline, that is hanging out.

Both are fashionable and common sights near me.

That is not hanging out. It’s visible flesh but it is not ‘hanging out.’

Beachtastic · 13/04/2026 12:35

nomas · 13/04/2026 12:16

He’s saying his discomfort is worse because he is a man, thereby centreing himself.

You really don’t need to stare at a woman’s bottom, you can look away, your eyes have the ability to swivel. And arses don’t hang out.

I think the trouble is that increasingly, we don't know where to look. This "style of dress" is all over the place! 🫣

nomas · 13/04/2026 12:35

2dogsandabudgie · 13/04/2026 12:27

I'm not sure about you but when I'm walking I look where I'm going, ie in front of me. My eyes don't swivel all over the place. If someone is in front of me they're in my line of vision.

Not sure why you think it's ok for young teens/women to walk around half naked. If a middle aged man walked through town in just his Y fronts people would think it strange.

Not sure why you think it's ok for young teens/women to walk around half naked.

Can you quote where I have said this? I’ve repeatedly said I’m a conservative dresser. I usually wear full sleeved, crew neck, down to ankle clothes.

I just hate the derogatory way women talk about girls’ bodies here (jiggling arse cheeks, arses hanging out, etc) and the idea that they HAVE to look, they can’t possibly be expected to look away.

Even the Bible says men (which includes women) should guard their gaze:

  • Matthew 5:28 (The Core Verse): Jesus states, "But I tell you that anyone who looks at a woman lustfully has already committed adultery with her in his heart". This teaching shifts the focus from just external actions (physical adultery) to internal intentions and desires.
  • Job’s Covenant (Job 31:1): Job is presented as a model of righteousness for saying, "I made a covenant with my eyes not to look lustfully at a young woman". This implies a voluntary, proactive decision to avoid gazing at a woman's body with desire.
likelysuspect · 13/04/2026 12:32

2dogsandabudgie · 13/04/2026 12:27

I'm not sure about you but when I'm walking I look where I'm going, ie in front of me. My eyes don't swivel all over the place. If someone is in front of me they're in my line of vision.

Not sure why you think it's ok for young teens/women to walk around half naked. If a middle aged man walked through town in just his Y fronts people would think it strange.

Worse when you're working with someone, not a colleague but client, who has a huge hanging out cleavage, trying to concentrate on their face.

Flushitdown · 13/04/2026 12:30

nomas · 13/04/2026 12:16

He’s saying his discomfort is worse because he is a man, thereby centreing himself.

You really don’t need to stare at a woman’s bottom, you can look away, your eyes have the ability to swivel. And arses don’t hang out.

Arses DO hang out.

When young men wear their jeans below their bottom so that the whole of their underwear covered bottom is shown above the jeans waistband, that is hanging out.

When a woman wears a skirt in which her bum cheeks are visible beneath the hemline, that is hanging out.

Both are fashionable and common sights near me.

StellaAndCrow · 13/04/2026 12:27

Some men like to talk about underage girls wearing underwear, and post to hear more about it. It's a fetish.

2dogsandabudgie · 13/04/2026 12:27

nomas · 13/04/2026 12:16

He’s saying his discomfort is worse because he is a man, thereby centreing himself.

You really don’t need to stare at a woman’s bottom, you can look away, your eyes have the ability to swivel. And arses don’t hang out.

I'm not sure about you but when I'm walking I look where I'm going, ie in front of me. My eyes don't swivel all over the place. If someone is in front of me they're in my line of vision.

Not sure why you think it's ok for young teens/women to walk around half naked. If a middle aged man walked through town in just his Y fronts people would think it strange.

likelysuspect · 13/04/2026 12:24

Well of course YANBU but people will leap to tell you not to comment on womens clothing and that women should be able to wear whatever they like

I only really read that view on here, in real life people know this isnt appropriate and dont go out dressed hanging everything out or allow their children to do so either.

BillieWiper · 13/04/2026 12:22

nomas · 13/04/2026 12:18

I think your post had a point. Why do these men think it’s worse them? Just look away.

Well yeah. There is that. I personally wouldn't give a strangers clothes more than a microsecond of thought.

x2boys · 13/04/2026 12:20

nomas · 13/04/2026 12:16

He’s saying his discomfort is worse because he is a man, thereby centreing himself.

You really don’t need to stare at a woman’s bottom, you can look away, your eyes have the ability to swivel. And arses don’t hang out.

They can , i was on a packed bus a young school girl had her skirt so high i could could see her knickers and bum cheeks
I didnt want to see that and couldnt exactly turn around as i was squashed into a far seat .

nomas · 13/04/2026 12:18

BillieWiper · 13/04/2026 12:17

Fair enough. Bit harsh. I was kinda joking but point taken.

I think your post had a point. Why do these men think it’s worse them? Just look away.

BillieWiper · 13/04/2026 12:17

2dogsandabudgie · 13/04/2026 12:12

That's an unfair comment. He wasn't saying that. I'm a woman in her 60s but if I'm walking behind a woman with her arse hanging out it's hard not to stare or be aware of it.

Fair enough. Bit harsh. I was kinda joking but point taken.

x2boys · 13/04/2026 12:16

2dogsandabudgie · 13/04/2026 12:12

That's an unfair comment. He wasn't saying that. I'm a woman in her 60s but if I'm walking behind a woman with her arse hanging out it's hard not to stare or be aware of it.

I agree Im a 52 year old straight female i have no desire to see a young womens bare backside
If it was a young male posters would be saying he should be done for indecent exposure

nomas · 13/04/2026 12:16

2dogsandabudgie · 13/04/2026 12:12

That's an unfair comment. He wasn't saying that. I'm a woman in her 60s but if I'm walking behind a woman with her arse hanging out it's hard not to stare or be aware of it.

He’s saying his discomfort is worse because he is a man, thereby centreing himself.

You really don’t need to stare at a woman’s bottom, you can look away, your eyes have the ability to swivel. And arses don’t hang out.

nomas · 13/04/2026 12:13

AntiqueBabyLoanSmurf · 13/04/2026 12:08

I didn't say they're trying to distress people; just that they're deliberately pushing social boundaries for whatever reason.

I still stand by the belief that people shouldn't have to look away. Just like if somebody painted a deliberately provocative/offensive/profane/highly controversial slogan on the outside wall of their house - would that be fine, as passers-by who spot it can just look away as they walk past; and even the people who live directly opposite can just not look out of their windows?

First you compared young teens girls to flashers, when that didn’t work, you’re comparing them to profanity/offence.It doesn’t work. Women’s bodies are not profane.

Again, there are public decency laws to deal with this.

2dogsandabudgie · 13/04/2026 12:12

BillieWiper · 13/04/2026 10:15

It impacts you as man how? It makes you feel guilty for being turned on by a teen's undies?

That's an unfair comment. He wasn't saying that. I'm a woman in her 60s but if I'm walking behind a woman with her arse hanging out it's hard not to stare or be aware of it.

DoraSpenlow · 13/04/2026 12:11

Wheresthebeach · 13/04/2026 10:03

The problem is parents stopped saying 'you are NOT going out dressed like that young lady' in an attempt to be cool. Cool parenting has a lot to answer for.

Ah takes me back to 1968 when I was 14. The trend was for short skinny rib tops, mine was red, with short black skirts (but with all the essentials covered) and black tights. My dear mum stood in front of the locked door and would not let me go out because there was about 2 inches of bare skin between my top and the skirt. There was no way her daughter was going out in public looking like a tart.

She took the top off me and binned it, although she did pay me for it. Oh how I miss you mum.

AntiqueBabyLoanSmurf · 13/04/2026 12:08

nomas · 13/04/2026 11:51

Given that the ONS statistic that the overwhelming majority—nearly 100%—of individuals who commit in-person indecent exposure (flashing) are male, we can make an educated guess that young teen girls aren’t wearing their clothes to distress others.

I’m a conservatively dressed woman, and I do think that women are being sold a lie that being naked = empowerment, but I don’t subscribe to the view that you can’t look away from women’s bodies, you absolutely can.

I didn't say they're trying to distress people; just that they're deliberately pushing social boundaries for whatever reason.

I still stand by the belief that people shouldn't have to look away. Just like if somebody painted a deliberately provocative/offensive/profane/highly controversial slogan on the outside wall of their house - would that be fine, as passers-by who spot it can just look away as they walk past; and even the people who live directly opposite can just not look out of their windows?