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AIBU to envy friends with wealthier husbands and easier retirements?

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TheAngryPuxie · 11/04/2026 21:30

Just had coffee out with a friend and then went back to her house. She is similar in age to me (I am 57) and recently retired. I know she didn't earn much as she told me that she earnt sround £32,000 a year. My husband, like me, is a teacher and IS close to retiring. He's on about £44,000. I know that sounds a lot but after mortgage, bills, etc thers's not much left. I try to economise with the food shop, buying supermarket own brands,etc, I buy almost everything in charity shops, discount stores, etc. We rarely eat out or have takaways. My friend's husband runs his own business and, I don't know what he makes, but when I saw their house I was stunned. It is absolutely beautiful with 5 double bedrooms, 3 of them with en-suites, massive kitchen, dining, living room area,, downstairs bathroom and a large utilty room, large garden with another little 'bungalow' at the bottom, plus double garages, etc.

I have worked hard my whole life in a really stressful and demanding job and all of my female friends and colleagues seem to have one thing in commmon: their husbands earn a lot of money meaning they can afford to stay at home or earn a rubbish salary like teaching (which they are doing more as a hobby or for a bit of 'pocket money'). They have long holidays abroad and a lot of other luxuries I just can't afford.

AIBU to envy these women and think that life isn't fair? I love my husband, but sometimes wish he was more ambitious and that I could have a gorgeous house and didn't have to work.

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Easterbonnet26 · 12/04/2026 16:00

CalmPlumDog · 11/04/2026 23:39

I’m not one to argue and can see your viewpoint. But statistically it’s simply just rare to have a job in corporate that will pay 80k+ and be a job where you’re not expected to be available at least most of the time. This salary is high in London outside of major corps let alone the rest of the country….

Not true. I have a relatively easy corporate job, earn £78k. Work from home most of the time and can finish at 5pm every day (if I chose to)

MyDogTheInternetSensation · 12/04/2026 15:59

SundayMondayMyDay · 12/04/2026 15:53

I have a friend who charges £45 per hour for tuition, and works 22+ hours during the week. A lot of that is done in her house, but also online (using zoom and bitpaper). She also tutors during the school day, for students who are home schooled, and for 16-18 year olds who may have free periods. What subjects do both you and your husband teach? Could you expand your tuition base, with a view to gradually reducing your school contact hours? I think my friend’s £45ph is actually a lot less than some others charge (maybe £75ph online for A level science subjects). It so definitely worth looking into. And get your dh to split the housework 50:50. If he is finishing work at 3.00pm, that is essentially part time hours. It would make your life more enjoyable :)

Yes, we pay £90 per hour for A level Chemistry tuition.

TheAngryPuxie · 12/04/2026 15:58

BringBackCatsEyes · 12/04/2026 15:46

You still haven't explained where your monthly income has gone over the years such that you find yourself at this stage in your life unable to treat yourself to a meal out or takeaway and need to buy your clothes from charity shops.

Mortgage, bills, etc. I don't know, but we're not big spenders by any means.

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SundayMondayMyDay · 12/04/2026 15:53

TheAngryPuxie · 12/04/2026 15:32

In FE I've finally got a wotk/life balance. I do all household chores when I work part time. Husband doesn't see the need for it - once didn't change his bed sheets for 6 weeks! I am not unhappy but it just seems unfair that some people hit the jackpot with money snd I never have.

Husband started on again today about how we need to cut back when he retires and quite honestly I don't know how I can cut back more than I already am!

I have a friend who charges £45 per hour for tuition, and works 22+ hours during the week. A lot of that is done in her house, but also online (using zoom and bitpaper). She also tutors during the school day, for students who are home schooled, and for 16-18 year olds who may have free periods. What subjects do both you and your husband teach? Could you expand your tuition base, with a view to gradually reducing your school contact hours? I think my friend’s £45ph is actually a lot less than some others charge (maybe £75ph online for A level science subjects). It so definitely worth looking into. And get your dh to split the housework 50:50. If he is finishing work at 3.00pm, that is essentially part time hours. It would make your life more enjoyable :)

BringBackCatsEyes · 12/04/2026 15:46

TheAngryPuxie · 12/04/2026 15:32

In FE I've finally got a wotk/life balance. I do all household chores when I work part time. Husband doesn't see the need for it - once didn't change his bed sheets for 6 weeks! I am not unhappy but it just seems unfair that some people hit the jackpot with money snd I never have.

Husband started on again today about how we need to cut back when he retires and quite honestly I don't know how I can cut back more than I already am!

You still haven't explained where your monthly income has gone over the years such that you find yourself at this stage in your life unable to treat yourself to a meal out or takeaway and need to buy your clothes from charity shops.

Auroraloves · 12/04/2026 15:43

I’m late 40s. I wish I’d known which careers were going to be high salary when I was in my 20s.

Rainbowdottie · 12/04/2026 15:43

I was paid much much better in independent than state. The expectation and the pressure was higher though.

TheAngryPuxie · 12/04/2026 15:40

Jhhgrtf · 12/04/2026 14:32

If you really wanted to get paid better you could have looked at teaching in a private school or a grammar school or done tutoring on the side.

I get tutoring where I can. In most private schools the pay is less than in state.

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TheAngryPuxie · 12/04/2026 15:32

SundayMondayMyDay · 12/04/2026 10:33

I’m sorry @TheAngryPuxie you sound very frustrated and unhappy, and you also sound like you are very stressed and overworked. While more money can really help, it doesn’t automatically lead to happiness. I wonder if there is anything that you can do to change things within your own life, that would make life feel easier, happier, and reduce the frustration and resentment that you feel? I also suspect that you might be focussing on the lower household income that you have (due to your lower earning dh), when actually there may be bigger issues that are causing you unhappiness. I wasn’t sure if you meant in your post that your dh finishes at 3.00pm, then doesn’t contribute to household tasks / family things - that for me woukd be a major issue. It sounds like you are carrying a significant burden, and I think you are not wrong in feeling a huge amount of resentment towards him if that is the case - this needs dealing with, otherwise it is going to continue eating away at you. I would also look at your employment - is there a different setting you can work in, or could you switch sectors and find a job that utilises all your transferable skills? The other thing to think about is that if you do need to work up until state retirement age, then you should start thinking about how to switch to a role that is much more sustainable for you as you get older. It sounds like you may be in burn-out from your current role. Good luck. (Sorry my response is slightly off at a tangent, but you sound like you are struggling - and I don’t think that is just because of your relative household income)..

In FE I've finally got a wotk/life balance. I do all household chores when I work part time. Husband doesn't see the need for it - once didn't change his bed sheets for 6 weeks! I am not unhappy but it just seems unfair that some people hit the jackpot with money snd I never have.

Husband started on again today about how we need to cut back when he retires and quite honestly I don't know how I can cut back more than I already am!

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Strangerthanfictions · 12/04/2026 15:25

TheAngryPuxie · 11/04/2026 21:30

Just had coffee out with a friend and then went back to her house. She is similar in age to me (I am 57) and recently retired. I know she didn't earn much as she told me that she earnt sround £32,000 a year. My husband, like me, is a teacher and IS close to retiring. He's on about £44,000. I know that sounds a lot but after mortgage, bills, etc thers's not much left. I try to economise with the food shop, buying supermarket own brands,etc, I buy almost everything in charity shops, discount stores, etc. We rarely eat out or have takaways. My friend's husband runs his own business and, I don't know what he makes, but when I saw their house I was stunned. It is absolutely beautiful with 5 double bedrooms, 3 of them with en-suites, massive kitchen, dining, living room area,, downstairs bathroom and a large utilty room, large garden with another little 'bungalow' at the bottom, plus double garages, etc.

I have worked hard my whole life in a really stressful and demanding job and all of my female friends and colleagues seem to have one thing in commmon: their husbands earn a lot of money meaning they can afford to stay at home or earn a rubbish salary like teaching (which they are doing more as a hobby or for a bit of 'pocket money'). They have long holidays abroad and a lot of other luxuries I just can't afford.

AIBU to envy these women and think that life isn't fair? I love my husband, but sometimes wish he was more ambitious and that I could have a gorgeous house and didn't have to work.

Why do you blame your husband for not being ambitious and not yourself? Mena do have pay advantages and perhaps more opportunities but not to the extent that he alone could have improved your financial set up, you still have time, why don't you find yourself another income stream

TheAngryPuxie · 12/04/2026 15:24

PissedOffAndStuck · 12/04/2026 08:19

I think you're getting an unfair bashing here @TheAngryPuxie

For context I'm school support staff and do a second job at school one evening a week to make ends meet. If I didn't do the second job my mortgage and basic essential bills alone (not including running a car, food, pets, Netflix etc) would be over half my take home pay. I certainly can't afford a pension, and have no partner - high earning or otherwise.

Working with older kids in the current climate is utterly gruelling and I don't blame you for envying your friends who don't have to do it, but I suspect that envy is more about how unhappy you are at work rather than wishing you had a higher earning husband. One of my colleagues works two days a week in a non student facing role and does not stop moaning about it - do I roll my eyes internally - yes; am I a bit envious - also yes, but I still like her and just have a moan with her these days.

Is there anything you could do to change your job or get a better work/life balance? I'm planning to relocate and downsize (was supposed to going on the market this week but had had to put plans on hold for this year 🙄) so I can maybe work p/t all year round and clear my mortgage sooner.

If all else fails - does your mate really need a house tha big? Think of all the cleaning and maintenance...sod that!

She's got a cleaner.

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TheAngryPuxie · 12/04/2026 15:15

Velvian · 12/04/2026 07:21

A PP suggested you have a joint income of £70K and you didn't correct them @TheAngryPuxie . If your DH is on £44K, that would mean you are on £26k. That cannot be right if you are working full time.

Why don't you change job now? You have another decade until state retirement age to do something else. You would be able to get a local authority job aligned with your experience, which would likely be a hybrid role, mostly WFH for £35-40K.

Believe me - I have tried. Teaching is all I've ever done so normally it's instant rejection, and if I do get intetview I'm told thst I was great but they've hired someone with a little more experience than me.

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crossedlines · 12/04/2026 15:07

Jhhgrtf · 12/04/2026 14:32

If you really wanted to get paid better you could have looked at teaching in a private school or a grammar school or done tutoring on the side.

Private schools don’t necessarily offer higher salaries and loads of them have left the Teacher Pension Scheme.

honestly, a married couple who are both teachers should have been able to work up to a very nice joint income and a bloody brilliant pension - way better than a private one or most other occupational pensions. There really shouldn’t be any need for the OP to be so envious. Especially as it sounds like the woman she envies doesn’t even have a career of her own

TheMustardSeed · 12/04/2026 15:04

ImmortalSnowman · 12/04/2026 13:46

Two full time teachers without progression should be on £45k each at the top of the main pay band. You benefitted from cheap houses in the 90s and are still paying a mortgage? Doesn't sound like your income is the actual problem.

Yikes.

Dancingsquirrels · 12/04/2026 14:38

BewareoftheLambs · 12/04/2026 09:36

It isn't, the salary is significantly reduced to reflect that. Also, they are often expected to do quite a lot of work in those unpaid holidays.

The salary may reflect the long holidays, sure

But that's entirely different from those holidays being unpaid, as I have seen people claim on here

And the teachers I know do not work in school holidays. Yes they have told me this

WearyAuldWumman · 12/04/2026 14:37

YouBelongWithMe · 12/04/2026 06:57

No, in Scotland at top end of the pay scale. I do think Scotland pays its teachers better though.

Ah right.

That's more than I got as a PTC on .6, but I recall that there was a wage increase after I quit and - the way that the SPPA administers pensions - that helped my pension a bit.

Digression

As soon as I resigned, my HT had my post job-sized down to .5, in spite of the fact that it was the biggest faculty in the school and the school roll had gone up by more than 200 pupils. Bandit. I've been gone for nearly 8 years now and I've had 6 replacements in that time - all women. I can't prove that there's sexism afoot, but given that the other PTCs were all men with a smaller workload...

When I first got the job, it was advertised at .6. All the candidates were women. The day before the interview, I got a scrap of paper with a printed note telling me that it was only .5. (I was a PT for one subject prior to that - it was when the regions were shoving secondary departments together into faculties as PTs retired.)

I still have no idea how the region thought that they could get away with that...and it was literally a guillotined scrap, not even a full letter.

My faculty was the last in the school to be formed. I checked with the PTCs in the school, and they were all on .6 on the pay scale...so at the 'Any other questions?' stage of the interview, I raised the matter of the drop in pay. I was quite blunt.

The next day I was called into the then HTs office and was told that the region had agreed to restore the pay to .6.

The HT who cut the pay for all my successors was a different chap. To this day, I cannot fathom how the region got off with it.

Jhhgrtf · 12/04/2026 14:32

If you really wanted to get paid better you could have looked at teaching in a private school or a grammar school or done tutoring on the side.

rainuntilseptember · 12/04/2026 14:05

DuchessofStaffordshire · 11/04/2026 22:28

You've managed to retire at 57 and have benefitted from nice long holidays. Look at the positives and stop comparing yourself to others. If you want to improve your lot, do something about it.

OP hasn't retired, it's the friend in the fancy house who is retired

ImmortalSnowman · 12/04/2026 14:03

GreekIslands · 12/04/2026 12:44

This is not in a teacher's contract.

Edited

Full time Scottish teachers get 40 days paid annual leave and 195 paid working days. The other 26 week days are not paid. Salary is normal paid over 12 payments but it is 10 months salary. It is in the contracts. Pay & Leave specifications are in the job adverts never mind the contracts.

Gillthepill · 12/04/2026 13:58

If your goal was to be comfortable in life then you should have had a plan to accumulate wealth by looking at different careers, marrying someone else etc. There are lots of reasons why people become wealthy, successful business, inheritance, investments paying off.

GreekIslands · 12/04/2026 13:52

BewareoftheLambs · 12/04/2026 13:09

I don't need to because that's not what I've said, I've said if the holidays were fully paid for (rather than it being a division across 12 momths) the salaries would be higher, which is true. Perhaps your close family member will explain it to you if you aren't willing to read pp's post.

I don't think we are disagreeing in principle, just the way we are commenting.

The salary reflects the amount of time in the classroom.
That's not the same as saying teachers are not paid for holidays.

You've gradually clarified your explanation and now it aligns with mine, which is what I've always known.
(It's not a case of my not understanding.)

The number of weeks holiday can be-
Summer - 6
Easter and Christmas - 2
Half terms - 3.
Plus occasional days.

It's not relevant anyway in terms of the OP's AIBU and envy. Unless she and her H find other work in the school holidays to increase their income.

bafta16 · 12/04/2026 13:47

Teainapinkcup · 12/04/2026 13:46

terrible isnt it, if everyone aimed that high then who would teach, clean, fill shelves in shops etc, empty the bins... see society without all those people being dubbed "working class careers" the snobbery...

At the end of the day we have to live with ourselves. " working class?" disgusting comment.

Teainapinkcup · 12/04/2026 13:46

bafta16 · 12/04/2026 13:37

You and your husband chose a typical working class career

You seem nice.

terrible isnt it, if everyone aimed that high then who would teach, clean, fill shelves in shops etc, empty the bins... see society without all those people being dubbed "working class careers" the snobbery...

ImmortalSnowman · 12/04/2026 13:46

Two full time teachers without progression should be on £45k each at the top of the main pay band. You benefitted from cheap houses in the 90s and are still paying a mortgage? Doesn't sound like your income is the actual problem.

hjskdhu88649 · 12/04/2026 13:45

Teainapinkcup · 12/04/2026 13:41

men do not give birth lol, stay at home mum thing affects careers a lot of the time.

Just because women give birth doesn’t mean they can’t be ambitious. I earn double what my husband does, I am the more ambitious one of the pair of us,
despite the fact I gave birth. Twice.