To think the junior / resident doctors are greedy, selfish, entitled & lazy?

They aren’t lazy. You definitely don’t work in a hospital around doctors if you think they’re lazy! I’m a specialist nurse and always think, why on earth would they do that job? It’s such hard work; no breaks, low pay. Ridiculous

I don’t think they’re lazy and think they have some valid points but I do think they’re deluded re the pay increase they want and it doesn’t reflect well on them.

‘Literally no one in ANY sector earns in line with 2008 inflation adjusted wages. Not saying that’s right but well……we are where we are
So that seems a bloody stupid line to draw in the sand.’

That’s not true. Average real pay is just above. 2008 levels (which is still terrible) but doctors are still 21% lower. Teachers have also really suffered.

These are also professions with shortages. Doctors need to be given both the pay and respect they deserve.

I hate seeing them strike but what alternatives do they have?

Knowing their worth doesn’t make them lazy, entitled or selfish.

Literally no one in ANY sector earns in line with 2008 inflation adjusted wages

This is what bothers me about their demands and why I don't support them.

What is the current salary range of a junior doctor?

I don’t think they are lazy but I do think that they are wrong.
I wasn’t supporting their last strike let alone this one.

They certainly aren’t lazy. I work alongside doctors and they’ve had to study for years and work long hours that’s not lazy.
but they are tone deaf and possibly a bit deluded. The country cannot afford it, the other hospital staff have no where near the amount of pay rise the resident doctors have had and many other public sector jobs. Greedy yes, led on by their unions yes

I support them.

God I hate this we pay their salaries rubbish!
We all pay tax
Doctors included

My sympathy has waned

Same for tube strikers, should they try and strike again

Read the room, we're all struggling 🙄🙄

Not selfish, or lazy, but a bit entitled, and quite greedy. Their pay rise demands are ludicrous and farcical. I don't know why they think they should get such a massive rise and I think they're taking the piss a bit.

Would you want to do that job for £18 an hour though? I wouldn’t. Is that enough for what they are asked to do, it’s a lot of responsibility if/when something goes wrong. I’m a band 3 HCA on about £13 an hour. The difference in skills, knowledge & patient expectation needs to be valued at a lot more than £5 an hour extra. I’d want the person treating my family to be earning enough to care. I’m not sure what the long term answer is but I will continue supporting them because there’s no way I’d want all that responsibility for that little.

I think they have very genuine concerns about working conditions and training prospects. I don't think they're realistic about salaries. Nobody gets paid the equivalent of what they got in 2008; cost of living is higher for everyone and quality of life is lower. So I don't think it's a reasonable request given the increase they've already had.

It's general practice that I think needs the money and support far more.

They accrue a ton of debt and study for years to qualify.

The NHS abuses its position as a monopoly employer to underpay them.

Good ones move abroad where their expertise and years of study are recognised and rewarded.

They should be paid more than they are.

Wow, don't hold back, Spot.

Other staff work just as hard. But the buck stops with the doctor when something goes wrong. They’re the one that gets blamed.

I think they’ve pushed it too far this time and list the support they previously enjoyed tbh

Literally no one in ANY sector earns in line with 2008 inflation adjusted wages. Not saying that’s right but well……we are where we are
So that seems a bloody stupid line to draw in the sand

I support them. I feel as though a lot of other essential workers should be better valued too.

I was torn on this one as I think now is a terrible time to strike and I also think doctors striking is a terrible look.

OTOH, it is a really tough and really important job and losing pay in real terms since 2008 is crazy. It is not as if we have a massive excess of doctors willing to do the job for the current salary.

We need to have a proper mechanism to pay doctors fairly without them needing to strike.

They are greedy, i literally don’t know anyone who supports them. They have had a better pay deal than many fellow staff who work just as hard. Yes the wages starting are low but they won’t be like that forever!

Very few people in the private sector, who ultimately pay the doctors’ salaries, have received anything like as much

You do understand that public sector workers, including doctors, also pay tax?

They're not lazy, but they're certainly utterly tone deaf when considering all the other people who've not had anything like the pay rise they got last year who are the poor sods who'd be taxed more to pay for yet another huge rise if they got it.

I support them.