To think the junior / resident doctors are greedy, selfish, entitled & lazy?

Not sure it’s just about pay though is it? I thought it was also about qualifying and then not being able to get a job? Or one that you want?

I don’t think doctors are lazy, but I do think people lucky enough to be in well paid jobs, doctors, lawyers, high level civil servants, should at some point recognise doing such a job is a privilege. So much of this country is struggling, and with a number of doctors in my family, I can honestly say they are not. Yes they do a hard job, but they’re well paid and they’re in secure employment with good pensions. It’s time for the strikes to stop.

People in ALL sectors pay for the NHS.

Are you willing to work for £15 per hour after years and years of studying and investment in your vocation? Honestly? That's before you start spending money on mandatory annual fees

I do think they should count themselves lucky compared to lots of others
And that public sympathy is running out

They have skills with a global market, pay them the market rate or they'll disappear to Australia, New Zealand or Canada!

Alternatively they'll become like Dentists, become very picky on what NHS work they do.
The UK seems to want to fund the NHS on a shoestring

I do think that if there are no jobs, we need to reduce the number of university placements each year for medicine.
Or have university fees linked to working in the NHS.

Everyone wants and deserves a higher salary.

resident Dr strikes are very clever in saying how little they earn. What they never say si what their average salary is after 3, 5 and 10 years. What their average salary is if they work full time for 30 years. Doesn’t look so bad then. Plus their pension after 30 years full pay.

compare that with other public service jobs - a nurse, a teacher, a paramedic say,

I graduated in 2009 as a doctor in the UK. Out of my uni friendship group 80% of us are not working for the NHS any more. We’ve all left for better wages, recognition and conditions. The NHS runs the risk of losing more and more UK trained doctors if pay and conditions don’t improve.

whilst I agree generally, anyone can do those jobs. Most of them are unskilled, and there is no impact when an unhappy person leaves them, the same can’t be said for doctors

Yes.

HTH

My DD is just about to qualify as a Midwife. She'll have £70k of student debt round her neck for a £29k starting salary but there are no jobs locally for her to even get a foot inside the door of a maternity unit. One of her school friends is a junior Doctor who went out to Australia last year and isn't planning to come back, they're living a great life out there and are very well paid for the hours they work (was formerly working in A & E in London).

The Government needs a serious kick up the arse. The NHS is no longer fit for purpose.

I’ve lost some sympathy due to the timing of strikes. Tacking them on to bank holiday weekends just seems like wanting to maximise time off.

What money are we talking here compares to years of experience ?

They work hard and deserve the pay. However, so do many other occupations. Carers, teachers, social workers, nursery nurses, teaching assistants, warehouse operatives, paramedics, military etc. They all deserve a pay rise too!

I think you and all of the people in agreement with you should be ashamed of themselves. Working in the NHS is a thankless job which many are leaving in their droves. The NHS is under massive pressure, yes due to years of austerity and underfunding but also because simply people attend hospitals/walk in centres and call emergency services when they simply don’t need too. If more families looked after their elderly relatives the pressure on the NHS would be much less. There would be less bed blocking in hospitals, fewer people attending A&E due to falls/malnutrition/dehydration. There would be less pressure on community staff if people were cared for properly by family as it used to be. It is honestly getting outrageous the entitlement of the general public, the junior doctors work horrific shift patterns in extremely high pressure roles. Yes many will say well they don’t have to do it but someone does as patients families certainly aren’t!

I believe it means “hope that helps”. It’s meant to be deliberately patronising.

Hope that helps

I don't agree with striking in any form.
It causes misery for people who cannot affect the outcome.

Except MPs! Their salaries seem to have kept up with inflation and they certainly don't work as hard as doctors!
Some MPs do their jobs well, others seem to think it's a sinecure but they are not under the kind of pressure that doctors are and don't need to have the same level of education

I am a junior doctor. Hardly any of my colleagues are lazy or selfish- most are incredibly hard working and genuinely care about their patients. It is a tough job and the pay is not great.

I supported the strikes a few years ago (when i feel pay really was diabolical!) but can not and do not support them this time round. I agree with many of the above comments- everyone is struggling at the moment finacially and I think these strikes are out of touch with reality. It angers and upsets me greatly.

Also it was just over half the BMA membership who voted in the ballot. So nearly half of BMA memberships did not vote for these strikes and thousands of resident doctors have chosen not to join the BMA so are ineligable to vote. Thus it is less than half of all resident doctors who have actually voted in favour of this strike. Lots of my colleagues are as equally appalled as me about them. Please keep this in mind- don't tar us all with the same brush.

I support them.

There are lots of professions people go into because they are greedy, selfish, entitled & lazy and this isn't one of them.

How much do the consultants who are covering the shifts get paid ? It feels like the strike actually reduces the money in the pot ?

Yes, it is already happening with teaching (another chronically under valued profession).