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Child given money by "Vicar" at school

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TakeALookAtTheseSwatches · 03/04/2026 20:51

So my 10 year old daughter (year 5) came home from school on Thursday and told us the Vicar (possibly just a trainee, I'm not entirely sure) who was taking their collective worship at school gave her £5 to "get herself an Easter treat" and that it was "just between me and you" I asked her if she told the teacher and she said no. I feel quite uneasy about this, should I say something to the school?

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Daffodildahlia · 03/04/2026 23:13

Firstbornunicorn · 03/04/2026 23:07

Do you spend a lot of time in churches or watching children's object lessons?

I don't know what's gone on here any more than anybody else does, but I was raising it as a realistic possibility rather than jumping straight to grooming.

I've never seen or been involved with a children's Object Lesson. I had never heard of them until tonight.

However, I understand that the school is C of E and that is not taught (as far as I am aware)in their schools.

soundsys · 03/04/2026 23:13

pimplebum · 03/04/2026 22:11

Yes this, report to the school and to the safeguarding person in the church

hopefully there is a really sensible, reasonable, appropriate explanation (please god)

i know a lot if old Irish grandad types who give kids money but a vicar should have had training not to do that- ever

It’s the saying “just between you and me” that’s the issue

i know what you mean by the “old Irish grandad type” as my children seem to get given money at random by older people at the football/on the bus or whatever but the difference is they will say to me “is it ok if I give her” or they’ll do it in front of me perfectly openly and kindly -

giving money to one kid in a group and telling them to keep it quiet is… not ok. even if well meaning and thought maybe the child wouldn’t get any Easter treats and was trying to be kind, surely - if you were visiting a school - you’d day to staff afterwards “is it ok to give some cash so you can make sure everyone gets some chocolate” not give a fiver to a random child?!

Caplin · 03/04/2026 23:10

I would ask more questions before diving in. It may well be true, in which case the school need to be aware. But, at this age my daughter started to tell lies, she could steal and lie bare faced. She once told the teacher her Dad had beaten her, but they realised it was a fib when she described him doing a round house kick on her.

she grew out of it, but it was crappy as I had to question everything she said for a few years. It stopped around 9/10. She is a teen now and showing clear signs of autism which she has masked until a couple of years ago, not sure if she had been lying as part of that.

Anyway, just ask questions before leaping to conclusions.

stichguru · 03/04/2026 23:09

I go to church and have been involved in kids work in the past. The church is very up to date with safeguarding, no vicar would fail to know that this was totally inappropriate. Definitely report.

Olderbutt · 03/04/2026 23:08

Raindropskeepfallingon · 03/04/2026 21:06

Contact the school, ask to make a safeguarding report - if what your daughter said happened is accurate it needs addressing.

Not only should the Vicar/visitor not have given her anything, he shouldn’t have been in a position to be giving her anything if he was there leading collective worship - he should be supervised and the children supervised by their teacher. I can’t quite picture how someone leading collective worship could secretively give a child money unless it was a ill-judged prize or something, but that would’ve been in front of staff not a secret.

This above and definitely not Maundy Money, the King gave that out in St Asaph yesterday and it's not coins of the realm or notes.

PollyBell · 03/04/2026 23:07

I would presume it was a Easter money thing and a sont tell your parents so you can spend it on yourself type thing same as my grandparents did for me yes no relation but it was when I was young so back when there was no conspiracy in everything like these days

Firstbornunicorn · 03/04/2026 23:07

Daffodildahlia · 03/04/2026 23:03

Thanks for that info.

However, I think £5 is rather a lot of money to allow a child to keep ?

I've never heard of it in C of E or Catholic churches either.

Do you spend a lot of time in churches or watching children's object lessons?

I don't know what's gone on here any more than anybody else does, but I was raising it as a realistic possibility rather than jumping straight to grooming.

MadeInGrimsby · 03/04/2026 23:04

Daffodildahlia · 03/04/2026 23:03

Thanks for that info.

However, I think £5 is rather a lot of money to allow a child to keep ?

I've never heard of it in C of E or Catholic churches either.

Also, they wouldn't tell the child to keep it secret.

MadeInGrimsby · 03/04/2026 23:03

TakeALookAtTheseSwatches · 03/04/2026 23:00

She knows their name and it will be C of E because it's a C of E school. Apparently this person sometimes does the services but it's also done by a couple of other people too so I'm not confident it's the actual Vicar, maybe a curate?

Right. That makes it a bit clearer then. You know who to contact and you have a name.

Daffodildahlia · 03/04/2026 23:03

Firstbornunicorn · 03/04/2026 23:00

You've never heard of object lessons? Quite often they do involve money as they talk about value systems or similar and cash can be a good way to make it understandable. Sometimes the poor kid who got dragged up to assist the pastor (or whoever) would get to keep the money or other object. This is not unusual or uncommon in children's work. I haven't known it to happen with a fiver, but definitely with coins. I worked for a non -denominational Christian organisation.

Thanks for that info.

However, I think £5 is rather a lot of money to allow a child to keep ?

I've never heard of it in C of E or Catholic churches either.

moto748e · 03/04/2026 23:03

Wouldn't the names of the vicar and curate(s) be on the parish website?

MadeInGrimsby · 03/04/2026 23:01

hahabahbag · 03/04/2026 22:58

@MadeInGrimsby. You need to know the denomination and name of the clergy though, the c of e diocese can’t help unless they are from c of e. On a positive note we monitor the email (well I do at least) a few times a day during weekends and administration is back in on Tuesday if it’s more complicated to work out who it could be

Yes, I have to say I was assuming C of E, but that's easily checked. Someone must know who this person is.

TakeALookAtTheseSwatches · 03/04/2026 23:00

hahabahbag · 03/04/2026 22:58

@MadeInGrimsby. You need to know the denomination and name of the clergy though, the c of e diocese can’t help unless they are from c of e. On a positive note we monitor the email (well I do at least) a few times a day during weekends and administration is back in on Tuesday if it’s more complicated to work out who it could be

She knows their name and it will be C of E because it's a C of E school. Apparently this person sometimes does the services but it's also done by a couple of other people too so I'm not confident it's the actual Vicar, maybe a curate?

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MadeInGrimsby · 03/04/2026 23:00

CatJump · 03/04/2026 22:57

It needs reporting.
However, unless the vicar has contact with DD outside of school it seems very low risk.

Hopefully its a case of she either looked sad or he got the impression she doesnt have much money, and he gave it without considering the more modern rules around safeguarding and conduct.

Its the sort of thing which wouldn't have seemed unusual in the past, I remember being given money around christmas time on 2 occasions as a child, both times by elderly men who seemed to have no other intentions, one was a neighbour and the other a stranger.

However, this is 2026, and child protection and safeguarding are huge issues. The church is dealing with historic cases of child abuse and has had to implement safeguarding.
This is not another worldly unaware older gentleman. This is someone who must have done safeguarding training.

Firstbornunicorn · 03/04/2026 23:00

Daffodildahlia · 03/04/2026 22:36

Whaaat?

I've never heard of such a thing. What church/denomination were you involved with ?

You've never heard of object lessons? Quite often they do involve money as they talk about value systems or similar and cash can be a good way to make it understandable. Sometimes the poor kid who got dragged up to assist the pastor (or whoever) would get to keep the money or other object. This is not unusual or uncommon in children's work. I haven't known it to happen with a fiver, but definitely with coins. I worked for a non -denominational Christian organisation.

suki1964 · 03/04/2026 22:58

can we not think this is a school version of Naundy money/.

hahabahbag · 03/04/2026 22:58

@MadeInGrimsby. You need to know the denomination and name of the clergy though, the c of e diocese can’t help unless they are from c of e. On a positive note we monitor the email (well I do at least) a few times a day during weekends and administration is back in on Tuesday if it’s more complicated to work out who it could be

CatJump · 03/04/2026 22:57

It needs reporting.
However, unless the vicar has contact with DD outside of school it seems very low risk.

Hopefully its a case of she either looked sad or he got the impression she doesnt have much money, and he gave it without considering the more modern rules around safeguarding and conduct.

Its the sort of thing which wouldn't have seemed unusual in the past, I remember being given money around christmas time on 2 occasions as a child, both times by elderly men who seemed to have no other intentions, one was a neighbour and the other a stranger.

MadeInGrimsby · 03/04/2026 22:53

vdbfamily · 03/04/2026 22:52

If you know what church the vicar was from, they will have a safeguarding lead whose contact should be on the church website. That should be monitored daily even over Easter weekend and you could tell them what your daughter is saying and ask them to get to the bottom of what happened

Yes, please do this.

MadeInGrimsby · 03/04/2026 22:53

TakeALookAtTheseSwatches · 03/04/2026 22:52

This is from co Durham website:

This is a distraction now, I was responding to an earlier poster.
Please report this to the school, and to the Diocese.

vdbfamily · 03/04/2026 22:52

If you know what church the vicar was from, they will have a safeguarding lead whose contact should be on the church website. That should be monitored daily even over Easter weekend and you could tell them what your daughter is saying and ask them to get to the bottom of what happened

TakeALookAtTheseSwatches · 03/04/2026 22:52

MadeInGrimsby · 03/04/2026 22:41

Right. The schools I know must be outliers, fine.

This is from co Durham website:

Child given money by "Vicar" at school
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MadeInGrimsby · 03/04/2026 22:52

SinnerBoy · 03/04/2026 22:47

North Tyneside here, the normal schools finished yesterday.

Anyway, I'm on team: "He's a wrongun, get it reported."

Giving her money and telling her to keep it quiet is 100% grooming. Call the Police, dont be fearful about it. Call the council education department ASAP.

I can't believe that 18 people voted that you are unreasonable.

I think she's unreasonable not to have reported it straight away and contacted the diocese ( not that I voted that way, but I could see how some might).

Horses7 · 03/04/2026 22:52

Definitely take this up with the school in the first instance - send an email without delay.

MadeInGrimsby · 03/04/2026 22:50

SinnerBoy · 03/04/2026 22:47

North Tyneside here, the normal schools finished yesterday.

Anyway, I'm on team: "He's a wrongun, get it reported."

Giving her money and telling her to keep it quiet is 100% grooming. Call the Police, dont be fearful about it. Call the council education department ASAP.

I can't believe that 18 people voted that you are unreasonable.

I'm on the same team as you, if you've read my posts.

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