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Child given money by "Vicar" at school

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TakeALookAtTheseSwatches · 03/04/2026 20:51

So my 10 year old daughter (year 5) came home from school on Thursday and told us the Vicar (possibly just a trainee, I'm not entirely sure) who was taking their collective worship at school gave her £5 to "get herself an Easter treat" and that it was "just between me and you" I asked her if she told the teacher and she said no. I feel quite uneasy about this, should I say something to the school?

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SchrodingersParrot · 05/04/2026 10:01

I haven't RTFT so apologies if this has already been mentioned, but I suggest you hold on to the £5 note, preferably in an envelope or a plastic bag, as it might be needed as evidence (fingerprints etc) in a further investigation.

Clavinova · 05/04/2026 09:42

TakeALookAtTheseSwatches · 03/04/2026 23:00

She knows their name and it will be C of E because it's a C of E school. Apparently this person sometimes does the services but it's also done by a couple of other people too so I'm not confident it's the actual Vicar, maybe a curate?

She knows their name

Could you clarify whether the person who gave your child money is a man or a woman.

SafeG · 05/04/2026 09:40

DugnuttEyeBoogies · 05/04/2026 00:45

Why should OP trust you, random internet person? You could be anybody Confused

Thank you for being suitably incredulous on the OPs behalf. I was merely offering to help if needed.

Needspaceforlego · 05/04/2026 09:07

Lots of people seem to miss "innocent until proven guilty" and lots of people never seem able to shake off allegations once they have been made.

Daffodildahlia · 05/04/2026 08:57

Needspaceforlego · 05/04/2026 08:51

"Innocent until proven guilty" seems to escape lots of people in the UK.
That Radio Presenter was sacked last week over 10 year old allegations that the police didn't press charges with.

The Police don't "press charges" the CPS do. (Crown Prosecution Service)
The job of the police is to gather evidence and submit it to the CPS who determine the validity of the allegations. It is they who decide if the evidence will secure a conviction, and if it won't they have to let the accused go.

I'm not sure what point you're trying to make here?

Needspaceforlego · 05/04/2026 08:51

"Innocent until proven guilty" seems to escape lots of people in the UK.
That Radio Presenter was sacked last week over 10 year old allegations that the police didn't press charges with.

Daffodildahlia · 05/04/2026 08:41

ByQuaintAzureWasp · 05/04/2026 08:35

I speak from experience of a serious safeguarding case. Diocese safeguarding officer did everything within his power to rubbish the allegations, including interviewing alleged victim with perpetrator present. It happens! Fortunately others protect children.

Maybe you do have that experience but everyone is "innocent until proven guilty".
Peoples' lives have been wrecked and reputations destroyed by false allegations.

ByQuaintAzureWasp · 05/04/2026 08:35

Daffodildahlia · 03/04/2026 21:56

Lets get to the facts before you rush to judgement.

I speak from experience of a serious safeguarding case. Diocese safeguarding officer did everything within his power to rubbish the allegations, including interviewing alleged victim with perpetrator present. It happens! Fortunately others protect children.

TeaCupTinsel · 05/04/2026 06:54

Despite it being the holidays, you should be able to reach the Safeguarding Lead. This should be signposted on the school website or in communications to parents.
You are 100% doing the right thing in contacting... in school we have it drummed into us never to single out children for special treatment, no matter how well intended.
Even if this person is just very misguided and naive around children, they need to be trained and dealt with or they shouldn't be allowed into schools.

We are expressly told never ever to keep secrets with a child or encourage them to do so. This is ringing alarm bells.

Daffodildahlia · 05/04/2026 05:52

DugnuttEyeBoogies · 05/04/2026 00:45

Why should OP trust you, random internet person? You could be anybody Confused

So could you for that matter !

Daffodildahlia · 05/04/2026 05:50

DugnuttEyeBoogies · 05/04/2026 00:04

Better some kids miss out on lessons than even one kid is abused.
Shame you can’t see that.

A shame you have to be so condescending.

You seem to have an issue with this topic, why is that?

Have you been DBS checked?

Daffodildahlia · 05/04/2026 05:26

@DugnuttEyeBoogies Pay the DBS or let a primary age kid be raped by a disgusting pervert? Ooh tough choice

It's not an either/or situation - that a simplistic view

Don't forget a DBS certificate proves nothing - only that someone never got caught.

Peggyandemma · 05/04/2026 01:56

I’m afraid I wouldn’t wait for school to reopen, I’d report to the police. And I say that as an officer working in child protection. Schools aren’t investigators. They don’t hold intelligence on people. And if they do their own investigation they could give the person the heads up it’ll be handed to police, but still nothing will happen for another fortnight. Please call it in and report it.

Gingerwolfe · 05/04/2026 01:30

Oh my goodness, call the school immediately and request that vicar guy be nowhere near children.Huge red flag 1 - giving your daughter money ie a gift. Huge red flag 2 - asking her to keep it a secret. This is paedophilic behaviour and it needs reporting immediately. Do not second guess this. You had a hunch it was off so trust your gut instinct. No need for niceties and polite behaviour when it comes to protecting kids.

DugnuttEyeBoogies · 05/04/2026 00:45

SafeG · 04/04/2026 20:57

@TakeALookAtTheseSwatches if you PM me the name of the school, I will find the DSL and contact details for you.

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Why should OP trust you, random internet person? You could be anybody Confused

DugnuttEyeBoogies · 05/04/2026 00:31

Daffodildahlia · 04/04/2026 15:04

So your saying that it's the volunteers fault for picking the "wrong" organisation to work/volunteer for in good faith?

Some police forces have been less than thorough when investigating child sex abuse. Are you saying therefore that no-one should join or work for the police?

Sexual abuse can occur in care homes. The Care Quality Commission published a report on this in 2020. Are you saying that no-one should work in a care setting?

In 2018 an ITV documentary revealed the true extent of sexual abuse at the UK’s boarding schools, with hundreds of people accused of carrying out sexual attacks in recent years and dozens of ongoing police investigations.
Are you saying that no-one should volunteer or work for a boarding school?

And that it's OK for those church volunteers mentioned before to be penalised financially for the nefarious activities of a disturbed few?

TBH I think it's you who has skewed priorities.

Your whatsboutism is sickening. Yes there are abusers and paedophilic abusers everywhere - that’s the fucking point, so everyone should do everything they can to protect children and the vulnerable.

Pay the DBS or let a primary age kid be raped by a disgusting pervert? Ooh tough choice. Confused

ProfessorBinturong · 05/04/2026 00:26

He played the guitar and was helping some children learn and he had parents' permission for that, This involved sitting behind the child on another chair and guiding their fingers into position on the fret.

That is not how to teach guitar.

DugnuttEyeBoogies · 05/04/2026 00:19

Reasonstobelieve · 04/04/2026 12:53

If you have his name & the church he is associated with I would search for his phone number then call him & ask him why he gave my daughter money & wait for his reaction. He would definitely makeup a story but I'd still want to challenge him. I would even
consider going to his house to question him & hand back the money.

Worst advice ever. OP should follow safeguarding protocols, email school and LADO, Diocese, as stated many times in thread.

DugnuttEyeBoogies · 05/04/2026 00:14

CaptainMyCaptain · 04/04/2026 10:01

I'm not excusing the adult I am 99.99% sure he was at fault. But I am experienced enough to know that 6 year olds occasionally do make things up, I remember doing it myself. I have consistently been saying OP should pursue this with the school AND the church.

6?? OP said her daughter was 10. Year 5.

DugnuttEyeBoogies · 05/04/2026 00:04

Daffodildahlia · 04/04/2026 08:01

I find that hard to believe when there are now such strict safeguarding protocols in place.

Some are so strict, that it interferes with some activities that the children like eg:

One church I know about had a vicar who had a childrens' band in the church tower room on a Saturday morning (his eardrums had my sympathy !)
He played the guitar and was helping some children learn and he had parents' permission for that, This involved sitting behind the child on another chair and guiding their fingers into position on the fret.
After the new Safeguarding Rules came in to operation he cancelled the group because he was concerned that it might leave him open to unfounded allegations.
It was the kids that lost out.

Some of my friends were bellringers and taught children to ring bells.
To do this they needed a DBS certificate from the police. Unfortunately the Diocese required a certificate that covered them for each church tower they rang at. At a cost of £21.50 for a basic certificate and £49.50 for advanced one this was financially penalising.
They approached the Diocese to see if they could have a "mobile" one that would cover them for every tower in the area but this was refused as each church had it's own insurance.

So all they could do was just teach at their own tower. Again the kids lost out.

Not only that, but a Safeguarding rule came into place that said if people were transporting children to a church activity they needed to have an adult male and female, both with DBS checks, in the vehicle.
My friends used to go around the area collecting children and taking them to bellringing practice. Usually they carried 4 in a car. After this ruling came into play 1 child lost out in each car as they could only take 3, to make room for the extra adult.

All this is bureaucracy gone bonkers IMO

Better some kids miss out on lessons than even one kid is abused.
Shame you can’t see that.

TellMeWhatToWear · 05/04/2026 00:02

Glad you’ve contacted school OP. I would also contact the diocese safeguarding officer. And depending on whether both school and diocese act immediately, LADO too.

Assuming she’s telling the truth, then at worst he’s grooming, but even at best he’s displaying appalling judgement and a total lack of safeguarding understanding. Which is also totally unacceptable in his position.

Brace yourself for having to stand up for your child though. I’d expect him to just blatantly deny this ever happened.

DugnuttEyeBoogies · 05/04/2026 00:00

pouletvous · 04/04/2026 07:39

What? You’re very mistaken

It seems from reading the thread that more schools were open than shut so @MagicTapemust be feeling pretty stupid right now. As a PP said, trying to cast aspersions on OP’s story?

DugnuttEyeBoogies · 04/04/2026 23:57

leaflikebrew · 04/04/2026 05:23

Your DD could have found the £5 on the floor and pocketed it before anyone saw.

She may have made up the story so that she could buy herself an Easter Egg without knowing how the story would backfire....

I would be willing to bet a fiver that this is what actually happened.

Yeah let’s never believe women and girls when they are subject to grooming or abuse.

DugnuttEyeBoogies · 04/04/2026 23:53

Daffodildahlia · 04/04/2026 06:12

That's a rather negative viewpoint 😕

Lived experience thanks

DugnuttEyeBoogies · 04/04/2026 23:43

PollyBell · 03/04/2026 23:07

I would presume it was a Easter money thing and a sont tell your parents so you can spend it on yourself type thing same as my grandparents did for me yes no relation but it was when I was young so back when there was no conspiracy in everything like these days

With the rates of reported historical and current child abuse, you are alarmingly naive. It’s not a conspiracy, it’s safeguarding as now we KNOW that a percentage of adult men are paedophiles (even if many don’t act on it to a criminal level).