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MrsR85 · 03/04/2026 19:15

Hi all, I could really do with some perspective as I feel like things have come to a head tonight.

I’ve been with my husband for several years and we have a 17-year-old daughter (his stepdaughter). There have been ongoing issues with his temper for a long time – he can be very critical, moody and then suddenly escalate into shouting over relatively small things. It’s been a pattern for years if I’m honest.

Tonight we were having tea and he started moaning at my daughter, telling her she “needs to learn to keep her mouth shut”. She responded by saying “stop being a prick” (which I know isn’t acceptable), but he then completely lost his temper – shouting very loudly at her. She went to her room, and then he turned on me, shouting repeatedly that I needed to “sort my daughter out”.

I tried to ask why he was shouting at me, and it escalated further. I went into the kitchen and he told me to “fuck off to my mum’s”, then said I wouldn’t because I have no money. That really triggered me as I’ve always worked (I earn less than him but still contribute, and have even put inheritance money into savings). I ended up losing my temper and throwing a clothes airer, which I’m not proud of at all.

For context, this isn’t an isolated incident. Over the years there have been issues around:

him shouting or blowing up at me and my daughter
controlling behaviour around money (questioning spending, setting limits without discussion)
using things like the car (which is in his name) to control situations, e.g. taking it so I couldn’t get to work undermining me with parenting decisions
lack of emotional support (e.g. when a close family member was dying)

I feel like I’ve reached the point where I don’t want to be in this relationship anymore. I also don’t like the person I’ve become I’m more reactive and angry than I used to be.

However, we have a mortgage together and I don’t want to leave the house. He tends to act like it’s his because he earns more.

I suppose I’m asking:

Am I overreacting in feeling like this is no longer acceptable?
Has anyone been in a similar situation and how did you handle it, especially with a house and finances involved?
Any advice on next steps?

Please be honest but kind, I know my daughter shouldn’t have spoken like that, and I’m not proud of my reaction either. I just feel completely at the end of my tether.

Thank you.

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magiciansgirlonce · 26/04/2026 19:48

Get rid of him any way you can .All women deserve better than this

EvieBB · 09/04/2026 02:22

TON618 · 03/04/2026 19:58

I'm glad your daughter gave him back chat. It could be the best thing that ever happened to both of you. Make sure your finances are a secure as possible and liberate yourselves from this wazzock.

Wazzock - it's been a long time since I heard that word, lol, brings back memories..
Agree with everything you've said 👌

SadTimesInFife · 07/04/2026 11:47

Yes you must leave him.
It will not get better.
He will not change.
You can't throw your life away like this, living with such a man.

Dont get bogged down in he said she said. Your husband is an arsehole that you dont need. LTB.

dh280125 · 07/04/2026 11:10

I suffered through a bad relationship for over a decade. Sunk cost fallacy had me in its grip. But as hard as it is to get out, the price is nothing compared to being free for the rest of your life, IMHO.

ForeverTheOptomist · 06/04/2026 22:29

I just hope that you can also see that there is so much kindness here, despite the judgemental bat shit. I've posted before on this thread. Know that there are people here who have your back. However, If you are not in a position to feel that now, that is fine, and nobody who has given you support is going to judge you, or judge your decisions in going forward.

You are going through a terribly difficult time.

I wish you strength and hugs xxx

hcee19 · 06/04/2026 22:28

Stop telling people not to judge you. You asked for advice, it's given and obviously you dont like what you read. Bottom line is, put your daughter first, because as soon as she is old enough, she will be gone & you will be stuck with him.

MrsR85 · 06/04/2026 21:07

FirstdatesFred · 06/04/2026 20:29

(And I did make the break and it was awful and very hard, but am still glad I did it. Thinking about my dc helped give me the strength to do it)

If you’ve experienced it, then you should understand how insidious and confusing it can be which makes this kind of judgement even less helpful.

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FirstdatesFred · 06/04/2026 20:29

(And I did make the break and it was awful and very hard, but am still glad I did it. Thinking about my dc helped give me the strength to do it)

FirstdatesFred · 06/04/2026 20:26

I‘m sorry if it upset you, that wasn’t the intention, I do understand it’s complex, but sometimes hearing it straight from strangers can be a wake up call and help see the wood for the trees. Putting her first might not mean leaving straight away or doing anything drastic and sudden. But that should lead your decision making if you’re unsure if you can make the break.

lazyarse123 · 06/04/2026 19:38

FirstdatesFred · 06/04/2026 19:28

Put your daughter first ffs.

Wow. That's nasty and uncalled for. Op is dealing with an evolving situation it's never as simple as saying just leave. If it was more people would do it.

MrsR85 · 06/04/2026 19:34

FirstdatesFred · 06/04/2026 19:28

Put your daughter first ffs.

Judging someone in the middle of a difficult situation says more about you than me. It’s easy to judge from the outside. Living in it and recognising it are two very different things. I’m focusing on making things better for my daughter.
I hope if anyone ever comes to you for advice about emotional abuse, you respond with more understanding than judgment. It’s often insidious and can make people doubt their own reality.

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FirstdatesFred · 06/04/2026 19:28

Put your daughter first ffs.

TheHillIsMine · 06/04/2026 19:21

MrsR85 · 04/04/2026 22:23

No-one is minimising anything. I’m fully aware of the seriousness of the situation. I’m here trying to process it, not be judged. I’m dealing with a long-term situation in real life, not a snapshot on a forum. I hope you never find yourself in a situation like this, because it’s not as simple as judging it from the outside. I’m focusing on my daughter.

Your daughter has already seen too much.

and btw. I did leave a marriage that was damaging to me because ultimately I knew what might come.

ForNoisyCat · 06/04/2026 08:47

MrsR85 · 03/04/2026 19:29

@PolkaDotPorridgehes saying it was disrespectful her saying stop being a prick. And I agree she shouldn’t say that but the way he started screaming and shouting and then turned on my screaming at me was unbelievable. I

He’s using your DD words as an excuse to justify his outburst, but his outburst is not justified. He sound horrible, like my ex, and if you stay your DD will not forgive you easily.

ADHDandtakeaway · 06/04/2026 07:52

MrsR85 · 03/04/2026 20:37

Yes I did. I’m extremely ashamed of doing so and it is out of character, but he had just been shouting at my daughter then turned on me then said I have nowhere to go as I don’t have any money so yes I lost my temper!

Op I’d be careful of listening to judgemental posts from people with no experience of abuse.

this is actually a very common reaction to abuse. I’m very easy going and I found myself reacting jn the same way to my ex’s psychological and emotional abuse.

its actually used by abusers as part of DARVO ( reverse victim and offender). He wants you to feel like you are just as bad. And he is the victim of your instability. He provoked you and you reacted. It’s all part of the framing of you as crazy.

the fact he’s calmly watching a film shows he isn’t upset about this- he got the reaction he was after. The fact that you are so upset by your own actions shows you don’t normally behave like this.

just use this information to help regulate yourself. Don’t rise to his provocations in the future. Don’t let him know you feel guilty or upset about this as he’ll use it against you.

ForeverTheOptomist · 06/04/2026 03:40

You've done the hard bit in making the decision to leave him. I was going to say stay strong, but actually you don't have to be strong all the time, just insofar as this separation is concerned. Be super nice to yourself and your daughter, and take every bit of help and support that you can find.

I think I mentioned legal aid some time back in this thread. It may be worth your while looking into this, especially given his abuse.

Take care.

Mcoco · 06/04/2026 00:06

Hope you update OP just to let us know how you are doing.

Mcoco · 05/04/2026 23:59

MummaDaisy · 03/04/2026 20:43

I just want to say that Mumsnet can be quite a harsh place!

Im so sorry for what you’re going through. It sounds like a bad situation and clearly your husband is abusive. As you say it’s slowly changed over the years so don’t beat yourself up for not realising sooner. At least now you know and you’re planning to make changes for your and your daughters benefit. You are a good mother.

dont listen to those saying its awful you didn’t leave sooner. Likely they haven’t been through it. The way the person slowly changes beyond recognition and the fact you’re fed lies like you wouldn’t cope without them. The way you might still love them and hoping they could still be the person you fell in love with. These are all valid reasons why you didn’t and couldn’t leave sooner.

i know you’ve done and said some things you’re not proud of and it’s made you realise so all you can do now is get your ducks in a row and make a better life for you and your daughter!

good luck 🩷

This was a lovely post for the OP to read. I do hope you leave him and cut ties with him.

JJMama · 05/04/2026 15:00

pinkyredrose · 03/04/2026 19:18

I'm only surprised you're still with him. Your poor daughter having to live with this angry, abusive arsehole.

This. Why has it taken so long for you to see his behaviour is unacceptable?

Your poor daughter. At least do what’s right for her now, better late than never.

Dreamer1971 · 05/04/2026 10:29

Good luck with everything OP. This is now a long journey, as you see fit, to secure your future. Hold on to everything that is important tightly and with dignity, the rest will follow. Pay attention to his actions as you go, minimise interaction as much as possible, pause and process. Nothing needs to be done in haste unless there's real threat of harm x

PrivateCry · 05/04/2026 10:11

Good luck, OP. I totally understand your situation and how daunting it must be but you are absolutely doing all the right things. He doesn’t sound like a man who is committed to an equal, loving partnership and you can’t change that (even though you may have tried or hoped for another outcome). You sound like you’d be better off on your own and will be just fine.

I wish you all the happiness for your future life without the fear, belittling and abuse.

MrsR85 · 05/04/2026 09:52

I think what’s become clear to me is the “frog in boiling water” effect. None of this happened overnight it’s been small things over time that I’ve adapted to, justified, or tried to manage, and only now am I really stepping back and seeing the full picture.

When I look back at different incidents over the years, and even something as simple as a recent conversation he had with a neighbour where the neighbour was clearly upset about his marriage ending and my neighbour stated he was not bothered about the material things he just wanted his wife back and my husband’s response was to focus on telling him to take the car back from his wife rather than the loss of the relationship it’s made me reflect a lot on values, empathy, and how situations are approached.

That, more than anything, has made things very clear to me.

I’ve told him the marriage is over. This isn’t about one argument, it’s about a long-standing pattern that I’m no longer willing to accept for myself or my daughter.

I’m arranging to have the house valued so I can understand my options moving forward.

Thank you to those who have offered constructive advice and support it’s been really helpful. I won’t be engaging with more judgemental comments, I feel abuse of any kind has a significant impact and some of the comments could quite frankly push someone over the edge when in a vulnerable state.

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Fionuala · 05/04/2026 08:35

Get into some kind of therapy
Maybe private???

Dreamer1971 · 05/04/2026 08:14

I received a great deal of sound advice here when I started out on the same journey as OP 11 months ago. When I see how much I've evolved from the spiralling and self doubt of those times I wish I could impart every bit of my progress to this lady. Stepping away first from the over explaining was my turning point. Not re-examining the past but committing to laying a change of course. That was way scarier than the conflict. Admitting our relationship was toxic (he was a serial cheater and I never set boundaries) and had realistically been untenable for a long time. My clarity came from myself once I learned to grey rock my stbx's behaviour and I paid attention instead of absorbing the anger and frustration and quite frankly, petulance he showed that I no longer was seen to be trying. New tactics arrived, name calling, then fawning on repeat. It's all patterns and opening up to really seeing what's in front of you is the kindest way to process your new reality. We are managing to co-habit and it's up to the individual to decide if this is feasible once a split is underway. What I'm saying to poster is, you do have it in you so dig deep. The start is a bit like an out of body experience as you navigate emotions alongside practicalities, but this settles I promise. Choose yourself and your daughter every single day. In the mix of the early chaos please still do some fun things together. Yes it can feel weird when you're grieving the end of your partnership but forming new habits can start straight away. Self-care, awareness, creating new enforceable boundaries, routines that suit you, not the old ways even if it's disruptive to him. I had a very personal tipping point where I definitively knew I was living with a stranger and did the bravest thing I've done in my life, taking advice from solicitors. Once I understood my financial position it was easier to see my life's work as a business transaction. His threats or pleadings were muted because they held no true weight. Breaking down the facts can help you see what's truly possible. Empower yourself like you never thought you could, gather information and draw on the people you trust to hold your hand on the worst days. Not being sucked back into old ways rears up constantly, particularly when stbx appears to me as his old self on a good day. You have to forgive both him and yourself, but not forget. You can still move forward kindly, with respect but also with purpose so every day can be a new win. I'm leaving behind a 30 year marriage. At first I saw it as a disastrous ending, nearly a year on it's a new beginning once you see it with fresh eyes away from the complexities of disentangling from old habits and fears of 'starting again'. Commit to finding your peace, we all deserve it.

Maxme · 05/04/2026 07:09

Given this is a long term problem, I think you know in your heart the marriage is over, and more than likely neither if you will live in the family home long term due to finances

You should get your ducks in a row and start preparing to complete the split in the summer months (so as to not impact any exams daughter has).

Obviously is there is a physical threat then act now rather than delay.