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Will antisemitism ever be looked at and dealt with in the same way as Islamophobia is?

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LucyWestenra · 01/04/2026 15:32

AIBU for thinking it won’t? Because it doesn’t seem to be the case in this country or my home country (Germany).

(I just googled because it didn’t seem right to have antisemitism in lower capitals, but apparently that is correct, as I thought)

Much love to the Jewish community, wherever they are.

❤️

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Workplaceworrier · 01/04/2026 17:06

Citruswood · 01/04/2026 16:58

Oh please. I know many Jewish people and am no anti-Semite. Most people oppose Netin fu-face and are anti-zionists.

Of course many Jews are openly and visibly Jewish. That doesn’t mean that others are not hiding it so thank you so much for dismissing my experience. I missed the part where I called you personally or anyone an antisemite.

Citruswood · 01/04/2026 17:05

Everanewbie · 01/04/2026 17:02

@Citruswood what is your definition of a Zionist? To me, a Zionist is someone who believes in the right of Israel to exist. To be Anti-Zionist is to deny the right of Jews to live in peace in Israel.

No, I'm anti apartheid and colonialism. Maybe my definition of anti Zionism differs from yours, maybe I've read up it's history. I don't believe in there being a chosen people, regardless of creed. Ethno theocracy is wrong on all grounds: Saudi Arabia included.

Everanewbie · 01/04/2026 17:04

and @Citruswood I think you are being disingenuous with your use of semite to somehow detract from the racism they suffer; a slightly cleverer effort at "all lives matter". We all know that biblical definition of semite is archaic and the word in common usage refers to Jews.

neveragainforreal · 01/04/2026 17:04

LucyWestenra · 01/04/2026 16:40

Thank you for your post.

As you can see, we are in the minority.

But that’s why it’s even more important we speak up.

I applaud you for not giving up ❤️

I'm just to tired to see comments like in this thread, eg people not even covering the basics and not knowing that many Jews are "brown people".

@Workplaceworrier I wish that people would read "Jews don't count". But they would only do it if they were interested to learn. It is so much easier to just hate/be ignorant.

Over the last few years I've unfortunately lost a lot of respect for many around me for this very reason.

JSMill · 01/04/2026 17:03

@Clardiganexactly. When I give my DCs obviously Muslim names for appointments etc, I dread their reaction. I work in a C of E school and it took me years to reveal my family’s names as I couldn’t trust I wouldn’t get a reaction. This is why I do understand how Jewish people must be feeling. My jewish neighbour has a dc at uni and I do worry about what she might be experiencing, as I had to about my own children when there was a lot of islamic terrorism in Europe. Actually the Southport riots were really scary and I was glad my family was in my dh’s country.

Everanewbie · 01/04/2026 17:02

@Citruswood what is your definition of a Zionist? To me, a Zionist is someone who believes in the right of Israel to exist. To be Anti-Zionist is to deny the right of Jews to live in peace in Israel.

Citruswood · 01/04/2026 17:01

Genocide is okay, but Anti-Zionism is not. Islamophobia is okay, but anti fascism is not.
Muslim people are semites, Jewish people are semites.

Anti-semitism IS definitely a thing, but it's not only Jewish people who face it!

Citruswood · 01/04/2026 16:58

Workplaceworrier · 01/04/2026 16:55

Appreciate your post OP. It won’t be taken seriously full stop, not compared to any other minority group.
People report how much they hear about it and not other groups, I wonder if they realise there’s only 300 thousand Jews in the Uk and 15-16 million in the world. They don’t realise that many Jews are scared to say who they are, they hide it in many cases. They are having conversations with their reception age children to be careful who they tell at school, to keep it from their teachers. In 2026 in a world where we are supposed to be proud of who we are, David Baddiel is right, Jews don’t count. People are so quick to give their opinion without listening to what Jews are actually saying, can’t think of any other groups this would happen to. And this is not to lessen the discrimination that other minority groups suffer from, all discrimination should be taken seriously.

Oh please. I know many Jewish people and am no anti-Semite. Most people oppose Netin fu-face and are anti-zionists.

Swiftie1878 · 01/04/2026 16:56

Both have a terrible time.
It shouldn’t be a competition to the bottom.

LucyWestenra · 01/04/2026 16:56

Workplaceworrier · 01/04/2026 16:55

Appreciate your post OP. It won’t be taken seriously full stop, not compared to any other minority group.
People report how much they hear about it and not other groups, I wonder if they realise there’s only 300 thousand Jews in the Uk and 15-16 million in the world. They don’t realise that many Jews are scared to say who they are, they hide it in many cases. They are having conversations with their reception age children to be careful who they tell at school, to keep it from their teachers. In 2026 in a world where we are supposed to be proud of who we are, David Baddiel is right, Jews don’t count. People are so quick to give their opinion without listening to what Jews are actually saying, can’t think of any other groups this would happen to. And this is not to lessen the discrimination that other minority groups suffer from, all discrimination should be taken seriously.

This is why I started this thread.

Thank you.

No more needs to be said.

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Workplaceworrier · 01/04/2026 16:55

Appreciate your post OP. It won’t be taken seriously full stop, not compared to any other minority group.
People report how much they hear about it and not other groups, I wonder if they realise there’s only 300 thousand Jews in the Uk and 15-16 million in the world. They don’t realise that many Jews are scared to say who they are, they hide it in many cases. They are having conversations with their reception age children to be careful who they tell at school, to keep it from their teachers. In 2026 in a world where we are supposed to be proud of who we are, David Baddiel is right, Jews don’t count. People are so quick to give their opinion without listening to what Jews are actually saying, can’t think of any other groups this would happen to. And this is not to lessen the discrimination that other minority groups suffer from, all discrimination should be taken seriously.

Citruswood · 01/04/2026 16:51

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FaceBothered · 01/04/2026 16:49

OP, can please link to some examples of how they are not looked at and dealt with the same?

I'm really interested to learn.

Citruswood · 01/04/2026 16:48

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Citruswood · 01/04/2026 16:44

Let's not forget the racist abuse Pakistani and other Asian people get in the UK! How are you not so angry about that? Is it because they're brown skinned? 🤔

itsadlibitum · 01/04/2026 16:43

This such a tricky thing to comment on because as a non-jewish, non-Muslim person it is not my place to comment on the experiences of those communities. However I do not think much good comes from comparing one against the other, and actually I've not idea what you've got to gain from doing so. If you feel that there's a lot of antimerism at the moment and you support jewish communities who are experiencing that, great. But why bring in Islamophobia? Both are bad surely? We should have less of both, and the fact there might be more of one than the other doesn't make a difference - does it?

LucyWestenra · 01/04/2026 16:43

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Citruswood · 01/04/2026 16:41

I bet you hate this flag 🇵🇸 more than you hate the illiterate paedophile POTUS and his property mogul sons and son in law who are going to be raking in billions in profit from property development on the ruins of Gaza.

Stop trying to take the moral high ground when you don't worry about innocent babies being displaced and their heads and limbs being blown off.

LucyWestenra · 01/04/2026 16:40

neveragainforreal · 01/04/2026 16:32

I'm with you 100% OP. It will never happen, saldy, and the reason why is showcased in this thread - either people are "blind" to antisemitism, partly because, as David Baddiel puts it "Jews don't count" (it's systematic). Another reason is that people are outright racist but refuse to admit it and instead try to hide behind whataboutism or some attempt to try to change the meaning of words, eg refusing to accept that antisemitism means hate towards Jews, or saying that they are anti-zionists but also see it as perfectly legit that British Jews feels unsafe due to the conflict in the Middle East.

Many more are racist than they want to admit.

Thank you for your post.

As you can see, we are in the minority.

But that’s why it’s even more important we speak up.

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BollyMolly · 01/04/2026 16:40

From someone who has no affiliation either way, I hear and see far more media coverage of antisemitism than I do Islamophobia, but I don’t believe it happens any less.

BedlamEveryday · 01/04/2026 16:38

This is a really weird thread.

Neither are ok, but it’s Islamophobia that MPs and wannabe politicians display openly and get away with it.

When there was that story of the young Muslim girl who drowned in Morocco, there was post after post celebrating her death on Facebook.

A lot of Islamophobia goes unreported. The CST encourages anti-semitism to be reported. So figures a skewed.

There are so many examples of which hate is more acceptable in society.

FaceBothered · 01/04/2026 16:36

LucyWestenra · 01/04/2026 15:49

Thank you both for your replies, but surely anyone who has eyes and ears can see that Jewish people are having a much harder time of it.

I asked you for some examples because I'm unsure of how they're not being dealt with in the same way.

It's a bit insulting to imply I don't have eyes and ears?

Clardigan · 01/04/2026 16:34

CoffeeCup14 · 01/04/2026 16:29

There have been huge amounts of Islamophobia since 9/11. It's still there, but I think it may be blurred with general racism and andt-immigrant sentiment.

Antisemitism has also always been around but I think was muted for a long time. However, it has massively increased recently. I suspect the genocide in Palestine and (legitimate) protests against that have emboldened the anti-semites. People shouldn't have to hide their ethnicity and synagogues should not need security guards. Jewish children should not be harassed on the way to school.

I wonder if it's all the same hate, just targetting different groups of people at different times.

Yes I think a certain kind of person is prejudiced against all difference.

I have seen far right groups say they supported Jewish people when this all started in 2023. Of course they didn’t, and are a threat to Jewish people too. They just happened to hate Muslims more at that point. And will change again. Same hate, different target.

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