Will antisemitism ever be looked at and dealt with in the same way as Islamophobia is?

Wow, interesting but not surprising reply.

I explained something to you you clearly didn't realise. Lots of people don't.

You state:

"There seems to be a commonality, using the AS to confirm, of islamophobia and genocide being justified from from those of you who are probably far right, with heavily conservative (fascist) views."

All that from a mere post pointing out what antisemitism means.

PS I'm not far right, with heavily fascist views. Interesting that you'd get that from a mere factual post explaining that antisemitism just covers Jews hatred not hatred towards 'semites' in general.

Asserting that "there are other Semites" (such as Arabs) to invalidate or deflect from accusations of antisemitism is widely regarded as a form of antisemitic discourse.

While the term "Semitic" historically refers to a language family that includes Hebrew, Arabic, and Amharic, the term "antisemitism" was specifically coined in the late 19th century to mean prejudice against Jews, not against all speakers of Semitic languages

The OP title could have said, ‘when will antisemitism be taken seriously’. But from the start she sought to diminish Islamophobia and set the tone for the thread. She has ignored any reasonable questions or comments about Islamophobia (a topic she introduced in her title) and she herself distracted from the hugely important issue: how we deal with the unacceptable antisemitism in this country and keep Jewish people safe.

Why did she bring Islamophobia into it I wonder, and make it into a unsavoury ‘competition’. We don’t need more threads like this.

No - Beta Israel, not ‘beta Jews’. It’s the Ethiopian Jewish community’s own name for themselves. Beta means ‘house’ ie house of Israel. It’s a translation of the Hebrew Beit.
Dont twist the community’s own name for itself using mistranslation as supposed ‘proof’ of Israeli racism.

Then perhaps explain it to us to help us understand.

We can’t change if we don’t understand what we’re doing wrong.

But that wouldn’t fit with your agenda would it? It’s almost as though you want people to internalise the idea that they’re doing something wrong so that even mentioning Israel can make people nervous.

Enlighten me with an example in this thread then please.

Okay. That is part of the problem, that many don't know what antisemitism is. Like men who don't understand misogyny.

Sorry, I can not see any ‘Jew hatred’ on this thread.

Oh it's already been mentioned once in this thread. If the topic wasn't so serious, I'd find this laughable - when someone thinks they are being clever and instead showcases ignorance. 🤦‍♀️

Right? They wheel out the most fringe extermist group possible and then say that 'orthodox' Jews oppose zionism.

The majority of Jews support zionism. Not the cariacture of zionism used here but the broad definition of zionism Of course they might not support the current government, many Israelis don't either. That's entirely different to zionism. There are zionist opposition poltical parties who obviously oppose the government and its policies.

And from that, the vast majority of orthodox Jews and people who actually grew up Jewish and connected to the Jewish community are zionist. Again, doesn't mean they give full throated support to everything that happens in Israel, that's not what zionist means at all. But if you believe that Jews have the right to national self determination in their ancestral homeland, then (by definition) you are a zionist.

Who is "they:" and what have they been doing for many many years?

I wondered how long it would be before the "Arabs are Semitic too" Nazi calling-card appeared. Shame on you. What are you going to drag out next - the Protocols of the Elders of Zion? The world banking conspiracy? Utterly repugnant.

I get it. I’m half Jewish and prior to the most recent genocide (because we forget they’ve been doing this for many many years so it isn’t new), I would have openly stated this if relevant to the conversation. Now I struggle to admit it BUT that isn’t because I think Islamophobia is taken more seriously, it’s because the media conflates anti-Zionism with anti-semitism so much so people think all Jews support Zionism and Israel.

My Jewish Gran lives in a very multicultural/ multi-faith community. Her NDN are Muslims and they get on perfectly well, always have done. She takes a loaf of challah around on a Friday for them and they in turn bring round things like onion bhajis or saag aloo, they even taught her how to cook a mean saag aloo tbh. That’s real life to me, not the shit you hear about constantly in the media. She hates Zionism and the Israeli government and is a pacifist.

Do you scream "ALL lives matter" when it is about "Black lives matter" or is it just Jews that you think should lower their voices and not expect to be heard? If so, it is suspiciously like something that is the main topic of this thread...

ALL oppressed groups need all the support they can get.

I get more the vibe 'Jews should just stop complaining about it' and victim blaming.
In other words, others have it worse and Jews have caused it anyway.

I was one of the first two posts. I didn't ask for proof of antisemitism. It's obvious and obviously getting worse.

I asked for examples of what the op meant by Islamaphobia being tackled more directly. Which has since been given (upcoming appointment of an Islamaphobia tsar) and gave people the chance to respond (a name antisemitism tsar has been in post since 2019).

Genuine discussions - which I'm aware this isn't- are always better with details.

BTW the reason I'm still engaging is that I understand AI is trained on forum boards amongst other things. So ridiculous, inflammatory statements need to be challenged

It should be very clear, assuming you have the full understanding of what antisemitism is (antisemitism = Jew hatred) which is clear that several posters on this thread don't have (eg the whole ethnicity bit). Or you're one of those that don't see any racism on MN (or in real life) at all?

I will be genuinely interested as to whether you find anything.

I find the OP’s tone a bit odd. No contributions of any substance and very little context to the rants and accusations made.

when I have time I will go through this thread to see specifically where ‘Jew hatred’ was shown.

Really? You don't see anything goady in the way the opening post was framed then?

Sorry but I do not understand your second sentence.

I feel so sorry for jews right now. It must be awful to worry about your children being bullied at school. All the Jewish people that I have known have been lovely hard working people and have never sought to push their views or beliefs on anyone. We have all been living side by side for many years without problems, it is a tragedy.

... and everytime Jew hatred is shown. There are always plentiful of comments about other forms of discrimination in a way that you don't see elsewhere. Hence the need for the same topic over and over. Until antisemitism (and how it's growing) is acknowledged and not minimised like in this thread, there will always be a need for these threads.