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PTA raffle-all 4 of the Chair’s kids won the top prizes

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PTAcoincidence · 27/03/2026 20:16

There was a PTA raffle at school this week to win Easter egg baskets. There were 4 huge baskets with around 10-12 eggs in each along with about 30 smaller baskets with a variety of eggs in them. Some had more eggs than others so between 3 and 6 eggs per basket. Lots of prizes, lots of happy kids at the Easter Fayre.
The raffle was drawn out of sight before the Fayre began with the dad of the 4 winning kids removing one huge basket from school before the rest of the baskets were even made up. Eyebrows were raised but you don’t cross the PTA mums I’m told.
Tickets were £2 each and approx 500 tickets purchased in total so a great fundraiser for the PTA. The chocolate was donated by the kids in exchange for wearing their own clothes as is the norm.
It is usually the PTA kids who win competitions, get chosen for the main
parts in plays etc and lots of parents roll their eyes and accept that’s the way it happens.
All 4 kids winning the top 4 prizes though? Surely that’s highly unlikely to be random and takes the biscuit? Or the Easter eggs in this case!
My dc won something and is very happy about winning so it’s not a case of sore loser before anyone accuses me of jealousy.

If this happened at your school would you think it was fixed or just luck?

YANBU = Fixed
YABU = Luck

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BikeShmike · 28/03/2026 09:41

To the question, maybe they bought a lot of tickets...
They would need to buy about 422 out of the 500 tickets to have better than a 50% chance of winning all 4 prizes.

caringcarer · 28/03/2026 09:33

The draws should be made publicly. Lots of schools do them in assembly or actually at the Easter Fayre.

ForPlumReader · 28/03/2026 09:27

Only one way to find out for sure, you're going to have to join the PTA.

NotSmallButFunSize · 28/03/2026 09:23

firstofallimadelight · 28/03/2026 07:30

I was on the pta we use to buy lots of tickets but so did everyone else so I rarely won. The only perk we got was front row seats at Xmas concerts (for dealing with tickets, selling refreshments) and parents complained about that!

Everyone loves to moan don't they but never offer to volunteer themselves!

I do think they should have drawn it in public but I also hate threads that bash the PTA - I know everyone thinks they are a Mean Girls type bunch of people who get special treatment but the reality is they are just the only ones who get off their arse and spend their own time doing a thankless task for the benefit of all the kids at school.

People were absolute arseholes to my friends when she and her husband chaired and ran events - lazy, entitled knobs who wanted the events and the resulting money for the school but absolutely refused to offer to support in any way, including just buying bloody event tickets on time so they then didn't have to take calls from whining parents who's precious little child would now miss things.

So you deserve the front row!! If others want it they are more than able to join the bloody PTA themselves!

Fluffypuppy1 · 28/03/2026 09:13

TheWineoftheChicken · 28/03/2026 07:25

Yes this a good point, why on earth would anyone want that many chocolate eggs in their house?

Maybe they give them to extended family as Easter gifts?

NeverDropYourMooncup · 28/03/2026 09:00

TheWineoftheChicken · 28/03/2026 07:25

Yes this a good point, why on earth would anyone want that many chocolate eggs in their house?

Drop them off at the Food Bank?

firstofallimadelight · 28/03/2026 07:30

I was on the pta we use to buy lots of tickets but so did everyone else so I rarely won. The only perk we got was front row seats at Xmas concerts (for dealing with tickets, selling refreshments) and parents complained about that!

TheWineoftheChicken · 28/03/2026 07:25

Plinketyplonks · 28/03/2026 07:16

How odd. Our PTA raffles are done in front of everyone. I also thought they had to be held under strict guidelines as it’s gambling? You could email the governors from a new email address outlining your concerns? It seems strange though that they would want so many Easter eggs? I certainly wouldn’t want my kids having TEN eggs!

Yes this a good point, why on earth would anyone want that many chocolate eggs in their house?

TheWineoftheChicken · 28/03/2026 07:24

My DH was Chair of Governors at our children’s’ primary when they were there and my kids never won anything!

thanks2 · 28/03/2026 07:23

That link to gambling commission guidelines says raffles can’t be online people need physical tickets

Plinketyplonks · 28/03/2026 07:16

How odd. Our PTA raffles are done in front of everyone. I also thought they had to be held under strict guidelines as it’s gambling? You could email the governors from a new email address outlining your concerns? It seems strange though that they would want so many Easter eggs? I certainly wouldn’t want my kids having TEN eggs!

Hungrycaterpillarsmummy · 28/03/2026 07:04

NeverDropYourMooncup · 27/03/2026 21:17

Online takeup can be non existent and nobody really carries around cash to get caught by the gate with a ticket selling table - there's a good chance that the payment report showed about 6 tickets bought and rather than have a bunch of donated prizes with nobody to win them, the chair put in £300 of his own money so a) the raffle didn't fail and b) so it's not obvious there's sod all interest in the school fundraising and they might as well give up.

PTA are generally a right PITA, but if it's something like that - and I've done the draws before now with zero interest in staying for the event, but I'm independent/don't give a monkey's who wins, I just have to pull a couple of tickets or run a number generator - it doesn't seem too bad that he got a couple of baskets in return for the sizeable purchase.

This does sound plausible to be fair.

UltraAlox5 · 28/03/2026 06:52

Yikes, we always draw the raffle infront of an audience. I never buy tickets myself so not accused of cheating. This is awful, I’d report to the school. A raffle needs to be conducted in a certain way and requires a small lottery return.

Sartre · 28/03/2026 06:18

Kind of missing the point but who want want to win so many eggs?!

This was obviously fixed, draws should take place in front of everyone.

HelloCheekyCat · 28/03/2026 06:15

Even if it was just a coincidence that they won the fact one prize was taken before the draw was.done is incredibly dodgy but also the draw happening behind closed doors it totally unacceptable.
There are laws(?) Or regulations governing school raffles and they aren't following them at all

TheBlueKoala · 28/03/2026 06:01

PTAcoincidence · 27/03/2026 21:01

I don’t know who drew the raffle because it was conducted behind closed doors and after the dad had made off with the biggest hamper. It’s comic really the sheer cheek of it. The same family won last year too which adds to the suspicion.
The tickets were sold online so we didn’t get physical tickets and can’t be sure how the draw was conducted at all or even if all the bought tickets were put in.
If one or two of the 4 kids had won it wouldn’t be as suspicious. Nor if they’d all won but a variety of prizes. But the 4 top prizes? Nah.

I can't believe the school isn't reacting to this. Personally I wouldn't contribute to the PTA anymore.

FarmGirl78 · 28/03/2026 05:06

Peony1985 · 27/03/2026 20:23

Everyone knows you give up your prize if you win more than once.
Bloody rude and yes clearly a fix.

No it ain't. Not necessarily. Having said that, I think it's how it's dealt with that the clincher.

My Dad used to run a weekly event for a local charity. My Mum and Nan would attend, and buy raffle tickets mainly to support the charity, which was a godsend to the local community, not because they actually wanted to win a prize. They'd win a prize most weeks, sometimes 3 or 4. It was ridiculous, and they'd always hand prizes back or refuse to claim them. Why did they win so often? Because it was fixed because my Dad was the event organiser? No, it was because most people would buy 1 or 2 raffle tickets for 50p each, and my Mum would buy £10's worth and so would my Nan. They're just in a fortunate position they had more money and could choose to do that, rather than a lot of people attending the event, who by it's very nature didn't have much cash to spare. So my family won more often just because they bought more tickets.

It's the same situation now my Niece is in primary school. As a family we'll support the PTA loads, and so end up winning more stuff, along with the same familiar faces who also buy large amounts of tickets.

However I do agree that the draw should be made publicly at the event, and with full transparency. Last year we also won one of the many hampers of Easter eggs, which my Brother gave straight back. We won the PTA quiz and gave the prize money back to the PTA. Same as my Dads charity event, it gets embarrassing to keep winning raffles, so we make a point of doing the right thing, but it doesn't stop hecklers shouting it's a fix!

The school and headmistress wouldn't even dream of selecting any pupils for parts in school plays etc based on their parents involvement in the PTA. It's frustrating to know that goes on. Mind you, that might be because my Niece is such a bad, wooden, actor that it would completely destroy any nativity 🤣🤣

It's a very poor example your PTA leaders are setting that they're so greedy and supporting these events for the wrong reasons. It's very demoralising for the rest of school, and just perpetuates the strength of the inner-circle "don't question the PTA Mums" that puts others off and shores up the sides of their ivory tower. It's everything that's wrong about PTAs. We're lucky that my Nieces school is a rarity that it doesn't put up with any of that shit.

ScholesPanda · 28/03/2026 01:30

The people who run this kind of thing often end up buying a lot of the tickets themselves, I know this from bitter experience.

Over the years, I've won many a raffle, sometimes winning back the prize(s) I donated in the first place. Yes, you can put them back, but that can also lead to proceedings dragging on interminably if everyone keeps doing it.

But in your case I'd imagine these people give up their time and effort for the PTA so they can run a sophisticated scam targeting baskets of chocolate Easter eggs. Much more likely.

EstoyRobandoSuCasa · 27/03/2026 23:48

I wouldn't be happy about this. At our school, either the headteacher or deputy head draws the raffle and a short film of the draw is put on the school website. I'm sure this is partly to protect the members of the PTFA - if one of them did win a big prize fair and square, they wouldn't deserve to be under suspicion.

TheAutumnCrow · 27/03/2026 23:40

JanBlues2026 · 27/03/2026 21:39

I bet they bought a lot of tickets, does anyone really want multiple hampers of eggs a week before Easter! It does sound a very odd set up though and should be drawn in public.

They still should stick to the rules, though, as set by the regulations.

DrEmilyCrabtree · 27/03/2026 21:40

I'm a helper on our PTA. More often than not, our main committee members will have a redraw if they win any of the main prizes or if they win more than one prize at all. If they are drawn lower down the list/smaller prize they will take it (they buy tickets same as rest of us) but only one. Nor do they take front row seats or anything else preferential (for them or their kids) - they're usually too busy helping with refreshments etc

Yours seems a bit suspicious to me, and is what gives PTA a bad name.

JanBlues2026 · 27/03/2026 21:39

I bet they bought a lot of tickets, does anyone really want multiple hampers of eggs a week before Easter! It does sound a very odd set up though and should be drawn in public.

Dragonflytamer · 27/03/2026 21:36

Whether it a coincidence would depend on many of the tickets were purchased by the family. If they stuck in £100 out of the £500 there is a high chance of winnig. It is not uncommon for most raffle tickets purchases to come from the PTA members. So many parents don't give a shit about putting anything in but just like to complain.

pteromum · 27/03/2026 21:33

yeah that’s shit. And why people won’t join the PTA. Or PC.

I am chair just now, in a rural Scottish school, for my sins.

I am the annoying one, trying to change things and make it more accessible.

I drew a raffle at a family games night this week. not in public. The night was running over, so I stopped playing, pulled the head out to draw it, another staff member to supervise and we ticketed the prizes for people to collect as they left.

I am from a raffle village, always draw it in public or as above with two individuals. NEVER take more than one main prize behind closed doors, and indeed in public most of committee would pop back in.

sounds highly against the ethos of fundraising and yes I would raise it, but I would also take it over and change it.

GertrudePerkinsPaperyThing · 27/03/2026 21:30

Yeah, I think this is far too suspicious to be a coincidence!

The odd prize, sure, even some of the main prizes, but not all four.

My DS won an amazing Bluetooth speaker recently at an event at DD’s school - unfortunately dd was one of the people drawing out the raffle but at least it was in front of people. Then the other ticket we had bought (I only bought two as only had £2 left!) also got drawn - I said to draw again as it was too embarrassing!