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mocked for Gold DofE and 'acting British'

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swpark · 26/03/2026 23:05

We’ve lived in London suburbs since 2010 when we moved to the UK. It’s a leafy, quiet spot, and while it’s not the most diverse part of London, it’s a pro-European lib dem voter area. With our neighbors and our international employers being so welcoming, we’ve always felt like we fit right in and never faced any discrimination. There were occasionally instances of small comments or hearsay, but it was never anything serious.

Our kids grew up here. They went to a local nursery, the local state primary, and then the local state comprehensive secondary and sixth form. We’re originally from Eastern Europe, but we’ve got our dual citizenship and we’ve built a good life here. We’re university-educated with good jobs, and while London prices mean we aren’t exactly 'rolling in it', we’re doing fine since we own our (tiny) home and enjoy our holidays.

Today, my teen daughter came home incredibly upset. She was bullied and mocked at school because she just finished her Gold DofE. Because the Gold level of the award is new to her school, it was announced in the weekly school newsletter. She has a good circle of friends at school, but this other crowd really went for her. They called the whole thing useless and pretentious, saying she only did it because she’s a snob and wanted to 'act British'. They even dragged us into it, claiming we pressured her into it because we’re desperate to belong and that, as Eastern Europeans, we never actually will. She’s obviously excited for the Buckingham palace award ceremony. Anyone would be, but they acted like her (and our) excitement was just us trying too hard to fit in.

The worst part is that she genuinely loved the whole experience. She’s super sporty and outdoorsy, so the hiking and camping were right up her street, and she already does swimming and basketball anyway. She used her real hobbies, singing and cooking, for her skills and spent two years volunteering at a hospital and with girl guides (rainbows unit helper). The only 'extra' bit was a summer camp which she chose for her residential trip, but that was also useful for her uni personal statement.

Now she says she feels like a 'second-class Brit'. It’s heartbreaking because she grew up here; this is her home. She’s being made to feel like an outsider just for having some ambition and putting in the effort. Why be so bullish and judgmental toward someone who’s just working hard and making the most of things? This caught me completely off guard as she has never had any such incidents at school. She was really shaken by how nasty and aggressive their comments were.

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OhDear111 · 27/03/2026 09:03

@CapacityBrown Frankly, that’s ridiculous! These were children who coined views! Not the nanny employing parents! Who would almost certainly know better. If you want to politicize this, look at Reform. Lib Dem voters are pro EU!

LimpysGotCancer · 27/03/2026 09:03

Urgh, I'm so sorry OP, that's awful.

I remember similar comments from my schooldays, directed towards anyone who was enjoyed applying themselves, being genuine and trying to achieve new things. It was a sin to be earnest and "try too hard", the only acceptable behaviour was to be cool, detached, uninterested. I always interpreted it as being fearful of failure and so disdaining anyone who tried - crabs in a bucket mentality.
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Anyway, the point I'm making is that some horrible jealous people would be like this whatever your daughter's background was - the nationality thing is really just a peg to hang it on. If her parents were British nationals they would just find something else to use against her.

I don't mean to downplay the very real racism that exists, just to hopefully reassure you that most people aren't like this - some people are unfortunately just total arseholes.

FlamboyantlyIncognito · 27/03/2026 09:00

Gold D of E is an outstanding achievement. She should be so proud of that. Absolutely to class imo and it's usually a sign of someone with a brilliant attitude, someone with proper back-bone, bright, committed and able to push-through. She should be so proud of what she's done. The other kids are just muppets. She's got to rise above it. They'll soon be forgotten and once she leaves school and moves on she'll never see them again. They wont move in her high-attainment circles.

CapacityBrown · 27/03/2026 08:55

Awful way to be treated OP, but I'm not surprised as the Lib Dem pro-European people who populate your area do it to virtue signal and aren't actually that tolerant. For them Brexit meant less easy access to cheaper nannies and plumbers from Eastern Europe, and not less Eastern European friends treated as equals.

DrNo007 · 27/03/2026 08:52

HugeMonstera · 27/03/2026 08:42

There seem to be a lot of well-meaning posters terribly anxious to tell the OP that it’s not an ethnic slur against her DD being Eastern European. Respectfully, the bullies themselves referenced her background — why wouldn’t you take them at their word? Why try to explain away the role of ethnicity in this unpleasant incident?

I think people are not saying it's nothing to do with ethnicity; I think they are saying that bullies just pick on anything in the 'victim' that stands out, in order to try to make the victim feel inadequate. That might be that you have ginger hair, are very good at a certain subject, have crooked teeth, need glasses, have an unusual accent, are especially tall or short, or have late-developing breasts (I'm familiar with several of these from first hand experience). So if the OP's daughter wasn't Eastern European but was excelling in the DofE award, they would still attack her for that, no doubt in addition picking on some additional unusual characteristic beyond her control, in order to drive home the knife. They are trying to make the victim feel bad about themselves using whatever personal feature might 'press their buttons'.

JuliettaCaeser · 27/03/2026 08:51

I was also called posh and square. I genuinely didn’t care because even then I could see the full picture. To them I guess I was posh and square!

Actually some of the lads that called me posh did some work on our house a few years ago they are perfectly nice now. They agree I am still posh.

Zsnga · 27/03/2026 08:48

Huge congratulations to your girl. Volunteering with the Rainows would have been a whole new skill in itself and Im saying this as a Rainbow leader. What a role model for those little ones to have.. I agree straight up jealousy.

Namechangerage · 27/03/2026 08:44

WearyAuldWumman · 26/03/2026 23:11

It's jealousy, pure and simple.

My dad was Eastern European, but Mum was Scottish and I was born in Scotland.

i got good grades at school and was accused of being 'posh' and having rich parents. Mum used to be a housekeeper and later a waitress and factory worker. Dad was a coalminer.

My surname was obviously Eastern European and I was academic; ergo, I was picked on.

I got called posh and stuck up at school because I was quiet, well-spoken and studious and got awards in assembly quite often.

In reality my mum was on income support as she couldn’t work due to panic attacks (her usual job was a cleaner) and we were living in a homeless hostel.

joanofaardvark · 27/03/2026 08:43

Firstly congratulations on raising a wonderful young person who is showing all the hallmarks of becoming a great asset to the human race and whatever society she chooses to settle in.

Kids can be cruel. Unfortunately it is a difficult lesson in life that people will want to drag you down for your successes and strengths. It sounds like you're doing a good job of letting her know that they are in the wrong and she has every right to be proud of her achievements.

I agree with the previous advice about addressing the bullying and racism/xenophobia with school. Good luck.

HugeMonstera · 27/03/2026 08:42

There seem to be a lot of well-meaning posters terribly anxious to tell the OP that it’s not an ethnic slur against her DD being Eastern European. Respectfully, the bullies themselves referenced her background — why wouldn’t you take them at their word? Why try to explain away the role of ethnicity in this unpleasant incident?

TroysMammy · 27/03/2026 08:41

Your daughter sounds amazing and I hope she goes far and I expect she would have the same ethos if you lived in any other country in the world. It would be interesting to see where in life these bullies would be in a few years.

Glittertwins · 27/03/2026 08:37

Gold DoE is something to be proud of, it’s a lot of hard work over a period of time. I bet the snidey bullies do nothing outside of school.

Basilmandy · 27/03/2026 08:36

Absolutely ridiculous of these bullies. Gold D of E is a major achievement and a lot of work.

FWIW I noticed that it’s one of the very few things that Oxbridge admissions take note of beyond academics (Grade 8 on an instrument is another). My son did Gold, loved it, is now at Cambridge 🤩

Not suggesting Oxbridge is everything, but I am telling you this so you know how it’s perceived in the wider world. These stupid bullies can piss off - they are probably jealous.

Tell your daughter to hold her head high - she will go far in life ❤️

DrNo007 · 27/03/2026 08:35

OP I totally sympathise with your daughter. However, as a white southerner Brit who went to a white southerner school, I can tell you that if your daughter didn't have an Eastern European background and was multi-generational English, and found something she excelled in, she would still be bullied and picked on for that something. Kids can be vile and it's a time-honoured and very nasty Brit tradition to attack people who succeed at anything or who stand out in any way. I was academically bright at school and other kids constantly told me I was a swot, a teachers' pet, uncool, etc etc.

It's all about jealousy and while it's a learning experience for your daughter regarding just how horrible and petty kids can be, you can reassure her that things will get hugely better as she gets older and can choose her own friends, rather than being thrown together with idiots, which is how it is at many schools.

LatteLady · 27/03/2026 08:35

Congratulations to your daughter @swpark! Getting a gold DoE award is not to be sniffed at, it is a huge achievement and says so much about your daughter and her tenacity. As others have mentioned it will definitely set her application apart for university and jobs.

Also, you do need to contact the school, I know your daughter has asked you not to, but this is around culture in school, as a Chair of Governors, I know staff would want to know in order to nip this in the bud... xenophobia is not to be tolerated at any level and needs to be stopped. Like your daughter, I am the child of migrants, the economic variety in my case, but no one has ever questioned my heritage but I just look at myself as being really lucky in having a number of differing traditions, foods, celebrations to dip into.

Again, well done to your daughter, you should all be incredibly proud.

GreyCarpet · 27/03/2026 08:35

I don't know, OP, coming over here and taking our gold DofEs! 😉

It is jealousy and inadequacy and it makes it far harder for people to justify their own 'lack' when they see someone succeed here who wasn't born here.

Well done to your daughter. Gold is no small achievement!

soupycustard · 27/03/2026 08:34

Oh your poor DD. There had always been a tendency for children to bully those who do better than them.
I don't know whether it happens more here than elsewhere because we've got an odd attitude sometimes to success.
These are silly, small-minded, mean people.
But your DD has friends, and will continue to make friends, especially if she carries on being the kind of person doing all the extra-curricular stuff. Massive well done on the Gold!

SatsumaDog · 27/03/2026 08:29

Sounds like a case of jealousy and bullying. Unfortunately bullies will latch onto anything that makes someone stand out and different. In this case it’s your daughter’s awesome achievement. Usually what happens is one particularly nasty individual latches onto something snd the others follow because they are frightened of being singled out themselves. The followers don’t always believe what they are saying, but go along with it out of fear.

I would reassure your daughter that it
really is a case of it’s them, not her. Presumably she’s going to uni relatively soon and she won’t have to put up with this crap much longer.

Dilemma87 · 27/03/2026 08:28

I’m British born and it’s quite common here regardless of background. I did my Gold Duke of Edinburgh at a non private sixth form and they really encouraged it because it looks good for uni applications, I’m sure I even got UCAS points for it. It definitely helps on job applications too, I get asked about it quite a lot. Teenagers can just be mean for no reason and it does seem to be getting worse. Hopefully she goes to uni and finds people more on her wavelength

Quine0nline · 27/03/2026 08:27

Although it is technically xenophobia and not racism, under hate crime legislation, hate based on perceived nationality, culture and race are all treated as a race based hate crime.
If you pursue this with the school, push this aspect.
Otherwise you have tasted a wonderful daughter and she sounds bound for great things and success. Very good luck to her.

Dragonflytamer · 27/03/2026 08:26

Congratulations to your daughter! That is a fantastic achievement. Some kids (just like some adults) don't like it when other people succeed.

haribooboo · 27/03/2026 08:24

I'd tell her to hold her head up high and not listen to those kids because they probably have issues themselves that make them want to pull others down. It's the behaviour of insecure teenagers. If she doesn't want to get the school involved then I wouldn't at this stage, but I'd tell her you're really glad she felt able to tell you and to tell you again if it keeps going.

Your dd sounds fantastic, well done her!

MassiveOvaryaction · 27/03/2026 08:19

Sadly some people are just dicks. Putting other people down is their way of feeling better about themselves, not that it makes sense. If it wasn't the fact she's not British born they'd find some other way to rubbish her achievement.

If she doesn't want you to contact the school @swpark then I'd respect that. But I'd definitely be bigging her up at home.

EarthSight · 27/03/2026 08:18

They're jealous.

Well done her. She sounds like a well rounded girl. Her extra activities will probably help her in future in terms of connections and applications for courses & jobs.

TartanCurtain · 27/03/2026 08:15

OP, I am sorry this has happened but I wouldn't take the detail to heart.

This is no different to any other sort of bullying and stupidity. They are jealous and know they couldn't do it and want to bring your dd down so have found a button to press.

Your dd will go far and use all the skills and experiences to live life to the full. They won't.

Help your dd to hold her head high and know her worth.

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