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AIBU to let 11-year-old manage contact with unreliable bio mum directly?

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Haveyouanyjam · 25/03/2026 22:59

AIBU to let 11 year old DSS manage his own contact with his mum after dealing with endless rudeness/abuse and problems from his biological mum?

She is meant to visit once a month and call twice a week. She comes more like once every 3-4 months, calls maybe once a week and gives no explanation or apology when she doesn’t call. If we ever miss video contact I am inundated with texts and calls and we of course explain apologise and rearrange if something has come up, or notify in advance if we know we can’t do it.

We make plans for contact to progress but she never sticks to it and then blames us for keeping him away from her.

She hasn’t attended a single (virtual) parents evening in 5 years and doesn’t ask about progress or show interest in him aside from when they occasionally speak.

DSS wouldn’t have a smart phone if it wasn’t for their contact. He would just be getting a basic phone for calls and texts as he is starting to walk from school.

AIBU if from now on I say she can have all communication directly with him, he can communicate with me about dates for visits etc. and she can explain directly to him when she doesn’t call etc. as honestly she has created so much unnecessary stress in our lives. She refuses to use a parenting app.

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TreadSoftlyOnMyDreams · 25/06/2026 17:03

Haveyouanyjam · 29/05/2026 21:22

Update and need some more advice…

So I tried grey rocking and it seemed to be going reasonably well, she was still relentless and unreliable but I was feeling less affected by all of it.

However, she once again made an unreasonable ask for contact and I held firm on our plan, she became extremely rude toward me and I reached my limit and said I would be blocking her on WhatsApp and would be going through a parenting app from now on. I sent the link to her WhatsApp first and to her email to make sure she got it. She did not (and has not) accepted this.

She still has my phone number, so do her mum and nan, and has contacted me on Facebook previously. Also obviously has DSS’ number. So it’s not that she can’t reach me at all.

She called him the next day when his phone was off (not a contact day) and then we haven’t heard from her since. She didn’t call on the contact day, was due to come down for a visit that weekend and I made sure to have his phone on all the time the days before just in case she needed to get in touch (we had already agreed time and place). She didn’t come. He called and she didn’t answer or send any response. We tried to call her on his phone again a few days later, at his request, and nothing.

It has been nearly a month and there has been no calls or messages and she appears to have actually blocked him on WhatsApp as his message does not go through, but she still shows as having a WhatsApp account attached to her number. He could still see her pictures and statuses until then.

I am torn as obviously that’s heartbreaking for DSS but at the same time, if she wanted to call or see him, she would and her Inconsistency has caused him so much pain and frustration. He has asked occasionally whether she’s tried to contact him and I’ve said no, and he misses her and we have talked about it, but I feel like contacting her to tell her what she’s going is just artificially prolonging a relationship she doesn’t want (or doesn’t want to work for) and DSS is actually better off with no contact as at least it’s consistent and he’s not being constantly strung along and let down.

He has asked about calling his nan to ask her why his mum hasn’t called, and I’ve said that’s absolutely his choice and just encouraged him to think about how he may feel if he doesn’t get an answer that he wants.

He has actually been calmer since contact stopped but I know it’s hurting him a lot.

Is there anything I else I should be doing other than supporting him with what he wants and being there for him?

Sorry, I didn't spot this update /appeal for help and it's nearly a month down the line. How is your step son doing? Is his mother still MIA and ignoring him ?

Realistically she is cutting her nose off and killing her relationship with her child. All you can do it be there to support him and possibly support a closer relationship with his grandparents so he doesn't feel quite so isolated. Hopefully in time his own father will get his sh*t together enough that they can rebuild that relationship too

You are doing a very good thing. It doesn't mean you have to be the doormat she wipes her feet on so don't second guess yourself all the time.

Advocodo · 25/06/2026 11:07

DO NOT EVEN THINK ABOUT RESCHEDULING!

Haveyouanyjam · 29/05/2026 21:22

Update and need some more advice…

So I tried grey rocking and it seemed to be going reasonably well, she was still relentless and unreliable but I was feeling less affected by all of it.

However, she once again made an unreasonable ask for contact and I held firm on our plan, she became extremely rude toward me and I reached my limit and said I would be blocking her on WhatsApp and would be going through a parenting app from now on. I sent the link to her WhatsApp first and to her email to make sure she got it. She did not (and has not) accepted this.

She still has my phone number, so do her mum and nan, and has contacted me on Facebook previously. Also obviously has DSS’ number. So it’s not that she can’t reach me at all.

She called him the next day when his phone was off (not a contact day) and then we haven’t heard from her since. She didn’t call on the contact day, was due to come down for a visit that weekend and I made sure to have his phone on all the time the days before just in case she needed to get in touch (we had already agreed time and place). She didn’t come. He called and she didn’t answer or send any response. We tried to call her on his phone again a few days later, at his request, and nothing.

It has been nearly a month and there has been no calls or messages and she appears to have actually blocked him on WhatsApp as his message does not go through, but she still shows as having a WhatsApp account attached to her number. He could still see her pictures and statuses until then.

I am torn as obviously that’s heartbreaking for DSS but at the same time, if she wanted to call or see him, she would and her Inconsistency has caused him so much pain and frustration. He has asked occasionally whether she’s tried to contact him and I’ve said no, and he misses her and we have talked about it, but I feel like contacting her to tell her what she’s going is just artificially prolonging a relationship she doesn’t want (or doesn’t want to work for) and DSS is actually better off with no contact as at least it’s consistent and he’s not being constantly strung along and let down.

He has asked about calling his nan to ask her why his mum hasn’t called, and I’ve said that’s absolutely his choice and just encouraged him to think about how he may feel if he doesn’t get an answer that he wants.

He has actually been calmer since contact stopped but I know it’s hurting him a lot.

Is there anything I else I should be doing other than supporting him with what he wants and being there for him?

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Vgbeat · 29/03/2026 19:38

Can I just say well done and thank you for trying to give your son stability. People are so quick to have a go at step mums and you sound amazing.

ThisChirpyFox · 29/03/2026 18:29

bloodyweeds · 26/03/2026 09:56

The dads are a waste of space but she has her other children with her?
She has other children that live with her so she’s obviously not that bad as is capable of being a mum so it sounds more like it’s complicated navigating contact around you.
I imagine it’s not easy trying to have a relationship with him when you paint her in such a way to her child when she is a mum to all her children and didn’t ask to co-parents with another woman who doesn’t like her and paints her the same as the dads who are a waste of space and not in their lives but she IS bringing up their children while you bring up ONE of hers.

What is your issue? Why are you siding with the mother of the ops SS? It is because you too are a rubbish mother like her?

Yes people may say I have gone to far with that comment, but then you seem to ignore what the op is saying and will probably post negative shit regardless of what she says.

Op - it's true that we've only got your side, but his mother sounds like a lot of parents noways - unfit to be parents and it's everyone's fault apart from their own. You seem to be doing an amazing job - I hope things settle down and he will see his mother's true colours. When he is older, hopefully he will realise and appreciate how much you have done for him.

Boomer55 · 27/03/2026 16:27

Haveyouanyjam · 26/03/2026 10:38

Why would I not ‘give back’ my DSS who has lived with me and his siblings for the past 5 years and finally has a settled happy life? Where he is loved and supported and lives in a home without violence, endless chaos or substance abuse. Where he goes to a lovely school and has friends and activities and has his own room. His dad sees him nearly every day and has him overnight regularly and is very much involved with him. There is a court order in place for him to live with me so I couldn’t give him back even if I wanted to…this is his home.

Is this rage bait because honestly 🤣🤣🤣

You sound like you are amazing. Just ignore the dippy posts, and (the bio mother, as far you can) 👍

Thelnebriati · 27/03/2026 16:13

I know services are cut to the bone, but it sounds like you need support. Ask around and see if anything is available.

Dolphinnoises · 27/03/2026 11:22

I agree with others who have said that as hard as it is, your DSS still needs you as a buffer.

He is so lucky to have you. Allow yourself a little pride for that school report. Well done to your DSS, but bloody well done to you as well ❤️

Pearlyb · 26/03/2026 23:45

Haveyouanyjam · 26/03/2026 09:23

Thanks (most). I needed to hear that I just need to keep dealing with her but just keep contact to a minimum. She does have his number, that’s where the video calls happen, and we do prioritise them we rarely miss and it’s always significant extenuating circumstances (stuck in an unending traffic jam for example), if we aren’t going to be available for a known reason we notify in advance and make plans to rearrange.

The thing is she wouldn’t do it anyway! She would find another way to contact me, her mum and nan both have my number, she makes more effort trying to speak to me than she does DSS. It’s frustrating as it seems no one holds her accountable for always letting him down, so sometimes I feel like I must make her aware of the impact she has, but maybe I’m better off just leaving her to it. Challenging her hasn’t changed her behaviour so the impact on DSS is the same whether I advocate for him or not.

She can message or leave voice notes at any times but rarely ever bothers and DSS usually doesn’t reply if she does.

So I will continue to keep contact to a bare minimum and facilitate the video calls and when she does visit and just ignore the rest. We have made our position clear that contact will only increase as and when the current contact is consistent enough that they actually have a relationship, and I can just say it’s down to her to take us to court if she thinks that’s unfair, as we have an agreement in place.

The frustrating thing is that she goes through phases of being sensible and calm but it never lasts and she will never accept if we say no to something or don’t agree with her.

I think it’s just hard to accept I will have to deal with her in some form or other for the rest of my life, but I feel so much for DSS that he’s stuck loving her on top of that!! I know one day he will see her for who she is (he already does to a degree) and I can rest in the knowledge that he will know I supported him with it all the way, regardless of how hard it is.

Narcissists do go through phases of being calm and sensible, but that is just another one of their manipulation techniques. They do this to keep you reeled in and responsive - they know you'd drop them in a heartbeat if they were just nasty 24/7. It's constant push/pull with them. But don't mistake their fleeting "co-operation" for them being actually reasonable. The way to deal with it is just to response to their niceties in the exact same manner as you'd respond to their nastiness- short yes/no answers, don't reply immediately, engage in as unemotive manner as possible, etc.

And you don't need to resign to having to deal with her for the rest of your life! No matter how constant her presence may now feel in your life, a time will come when DSS is old and mature enough, and you don't need to deal with her at all. Bide your time. The day will come.

Famholiday2026 · 26/03/2026 20:14

Insist OP. Change your number and ignore any other contact than the app. The end. Don’t give in.

TreadSoftlyOnMyDreams · 26/03/2026 13:41

GetOffTheCounter · 26/03/2026 08:18

You an't expect this poor child to manage a relationship with an abusive parent. Okay so you think she won't abuse him directly, but her broken promises are emotional abuse.

I am so so sorry you are in this situation- but you are clearly the only reliable adult in his life. He's too young to try and navigate such pathetic parents. His dad doesn't like the abuse so isn't stepping up either? This poor poor kid. And yes poor you as well having to deal with parents who are so utterly crap.

Please stand upo for your DSS and protect him while he is so young. I know it's hard, but let the abuse just roll off. Or otherwise maybe talk with the LA (I know they are stretched so this may not be practically useful) and see if they can take over supervised contact in a contact centre. THis is crying out for support being put in place for both you and your DSS.

I'm so sorry.

This is really good advice. Frankly I think if you give her direct contact things will only get worse in ways you can't dream of yet.

You are doing a really good thing looking out for this child. It sounds really hard but kudos 💐

L0V315 · 26/03/2026 13:37

"In terms of therapy, DSS is receiving mental health support, I take him to therapy every week."

That is a relief to hear, you got this op, you are doing great.

Haveyouanyjam · 26/03/2026 13:35

Thanks for the responses. She won’t use a parenting app I’ve tried that before, I tried blocking her and making the request but she just contacts me from other numbers (she seems to have a new one every month or so…) I could change my number but will try the grey rock first.

In terms of therapy, DSS is receiving mental health support, I take him to therapy every week.

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L0V315 · 26/03/2026 13:25

@bloodyweeds your posts are coming across as really cuntish, is that deliberate? Or are you having a bit of a shit day?

Op I am so sorry that your poor wee dss has such a crap bm, he is lucky that he has you in his life. I agree with pp that a separate phone for dss contact with her is the way to go forward.

On a side note, it would be helpful to your dss to have counselling now before he starts going through puberty. He may need a top up then whilst going through puberty, but this should help him before his hormones kick in. A mental health reinforcement as it were, he is mentality vulnerable due his relationship with his mother.

I wish you and your dss a happy and peaceful life 💐

Hankunamatata · 26/03/2026 12:40

I would give her an email to contact you or a communciatuons apps the courts can suggest for co parenting in difficult situations and change your number. She has access to dc on his phone.
She can contact you by email or app

YourKonstantine · 26/03/2026 12:38

Honestly OP I would:

  1. get a new number for yourself and DSS - switch him to a phone you like and say she can use your number for video calls
  2. leave your old phone number active for her to do her rants and other shit on. You can ignore them for the most part, just turn it on for scheduled calls and when it suits you to deal with her nonsense
  3. ignore at all other times.
sunnysunshinebear · 26/03/2026 12:12

You sound like a lovely step mum ❤️ well done to your DSS on his fab school report 🎉

I can’t believe a previous poster said to just give him back to his mum….. wow the mind blows!!

allthingsinmoderation · 26/03/2026 11:46

This must be difficult to deal with.
Who has parental responsibility for your DSS?
If its you,as awful as she sounds to be behaving i think you have to find a way to facilitate your DDS relationship with his unreliable mum.
If its the DD he has to do it.
11 yrs old is still developing and needs parental support and guidance in this tricky matter.

ImImmortalNowBabyDoll · 26/03/2026 11:40

It's too much to expect of an 11 yo but this is his Dad's job, not yours.

Mooselooseinmyhoose · 26/03/2026 11:33

As a stepmum who retained partial custody of my stepdaughter after divorcing her dad and who also experiences an inconsistent mother... just wanted to say you're doing an amazing job. Its an absolute tightrope to walk.

I think you still need to manage the contact at 11 with the trauma of an inconsistent parent it will be too much for him but absolutely cut off all other contact. Grey rock and dont reply to anything that isnt you making arrangements. Hes lucky to have you.

outerspacepotato · 26/03/2026 11:28

I think leaving this for an 11 year old to deal with that is putting far too much on the 11 year old. If you as an adult have difficulty dealing with her, and his dad can't because it will affect his mental health, how is your stepson supposed to manage? He doesn't yet have the skills and I think if you try this now, he'll be the worse for it.

Could you switch to using a court admissable app for communication with her and use that only? I think the video calls are intrusive into your privacy and would limit those to only one area of the home. I would suggest therapy both to help him deal with his feels and to teach him communication skills that will help him deal with his mom in the future.

Unfortunately, I think you're going to have to suck it up for a few more years. 11 is still quite young to have him dealing on his own with a volatile parent.

You've done great taking this responsibility and conflict on, your stepson is lucky to have you in his life.

Haveyouanyjam · 26/03/2026 11:26

mindutopia · 26/03/2026 11:15

Where is his dad? His dad should be handling all of this. Not you, not him.

Our job as parents is to be a buffer for our children from the world to a degree. It’s not his fault that he lost in the mum lottery. It’s your dh’s fault for having a child with a crap co-parent. He shouldn’t be shouldering the responsibility for his parents poor choices.

This is on your Dh. I would, however, stop planning the calls and visits with him. It can be a surprise if she turns up. But stop dropping him in the disappointment every time she doesn’t. He can soon decide for himself if he doesn’t want to speak to her or see her and that can be relayed to her by your Dh. It’s not his job to manage what you as an adult find too hard.

I don’t think you’ve read the full thread. He lives with me not DH and his mum was very abusive toward DH for a long time. It is down to me and I will carry on with that.

We tried not mentioning when she was due to come until she was on the way, and just putting his phone on and not saying if she doesn’t call, but DSS is 11 and not daft. When they do speak he asks her when she’s coming and knows what days she’s supposed to call. If she doesn’t call I don’t say anything unless he asks, but he is old enough now to be aware.

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HelloSkeletonFace3 · 26/03/2026 11:22

Can't believe some of the batshit responses on this thread, and people who haven't taken the time to properly read the posts. You sound like a loving and caring stepmum and your DSS is lucky to have you in his life and advocating for him. Wishing you all the best. Definitely worth reading some of the books previously suggested (say goodbye to crazy, etc).

mindutopia · 26/03/2026 11:15

Where is his dad? His dad should be handling all of this. Not you, not him.

Our job as parents is to be a buffer for our children from the world to a degree. It’s not his fault that he lost in the mum lottery. It’s your dh’s fault for having a child with a crap co-parent. He shouldn’t be shouldering the responsibility for his parents poor choices.

This is on your Dh. I would, however, stop planning the calls and visits with him. It can be a surprise if she turns up. But stop dropping him in the disappointment every time she doesn’t. He can soon decide for himself if he doesn’t want to speak to her or see her and that can be relayed to her by your Dh. It’s not his job to manage what you as an adult find too hard.

Silvers11 · 26/03/2026 11:12

Haveyouanyjam · 26/03/2026 10:41

Thanks to (almost) everyone for the thoughts and support. It’s helpful. I will keep dealing with the challenges of communicating with her in the best interests of DSS. I know it’s worth it. He got his school report today and for the very first time he is actually on track for some of his targets. He was so behind when he came to us he could barely read or write his name and he and we have worked really hard to get him caught up, his school teacher has been great these last two years. I honestly could have cried when I saw it! So will focus on that instead.

That is good news @Haveyouanyjam. Sounds like all your hard work is paying off for your DSS. You won't have to deal with DSS Mum for ever. He will be able to deal with his Mum on his own terms in another few years, but I'm glad you aren't asking him to do it now.

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