"Not all men” replies are ridiculous

I generally agree OP.

Generalizations are an important part of language (and our ability to organize and function in a complex world). We don't need to caveat all generalized comments with "Not all" or "I know its not 100% but..." or "I don't mean every..." because every sane and rational person knows that "men " or "women_" is a generalization, or an average, and the speaker didn't mean all.

But I would say that this issue isn't only annoying when men are used. Just that this is the case most commonly seen on here for obvious reasons.

Personally I find it annoying when you make comments about children, boys this or girls this and you get "well not all girls!!!!" yes I know. but just like with male violence, there are gender based differences that mean more girls on average (to a lesser or greater extent) will do/think/like/act in a certain way. or the same with boys.

The generalization police come to all sorts of topics.. what ever they feel sensitive about.

Surely it depends on the subject, how the post is written and the contents of the post. I Icould say “men love footballl”. While it would obviously be factually correct to reply to with “not all men”, there’s not much point because hopefully it is fairly obvious from the context of my post that I am not trying to say “100% of men” plus it is not derogatory.

if I said “men treat women badly” that would be a whole different matter and it would be entirely reasonable to reply witb “not all”

Agree

Often means, not most men

If you say it in capitals, it must be true!!!!

Lol you literally report a statistic that women commit at higher rates than men.

For emotional abuse, prevalence rates were high, averaging around 80%; 40% of women and 32% of men reported expressive aggression

Emotional abuse in intimate relationships: The role of gender and age - PMC

This is a good point.

I don’t know the numbers of male perpetrators and nor do you. So spouting it’s between 1-5% is nonsense.

The important fact is simoly

MEN AS A SEX CLASS POSE A REAL DANGER TO WOMEN AND WE CAN’T EVER REALLY KNOW WHICH ONES ARE BAD OR HOW MANY.

You say only 1-5% of men committed rape on 25% of women and do all the assaulting, dick pic sending, murdering, domestic abuse, the upskirting, the flashing, wanking in public places, the groping and following and heckling out of their white vans on 99% of women. And the epidemic of male in male violence? All committed by just as little as 1% of men.

Hahahaha!!!

"One in three men (32%) aged 18 to 57 years report using emotional abuse towards a partner. One in ten (9%) say they have used physical violence."

So no, it's not '1 to 5 in a 100'.

Oh yes, sorry, I've quoted it inaccurately - attempted or committed rape.

"Almost a quarter (24.5%) of these men acknowledged committing an act since the age of 14 that met standard legal definitions of attempted or completed rape; an additional 39% had committed another type of sexual assault involving forced sexual contact or verbal coercion."

I'm glad to know that:

• a.) you think verbal coercion and sexual touching without consent are fine and dandy, that
• b.) you think going on a date means consent is assumed, and
• c.) for some bizarre reason, you think sexual assault and rape don't count if a man is university age, as opposed to being concerned that men commit or attempt rape so early in their lives, and
• d.) you're arguing in bad faith as you ignored every other linked statistic on my list.

Additionally the study quotes other studies.

"The first study was conducted by Kanin in the 1960s, who found that 25.5% of the male college students he surveyed had forcefully tried to make a woman have sex with them since being in college."

"The first large-scale study was conducted by Koss et al. [1987], who surveyed a nationally representative sample of 2,972 college men. [...] Twenty-five percent of these men reported that they had committed some form of sexual assault; 7.7% had committed attempted or completed rape."

"Numerous researchers have replicated these basic findings. Depending on the university and exactly how questions were phrased, self-reported rates of sexual assault perpetration have been as high as 61% and rates of attempted or completed rape have been as high as 15% [Abbey et al., 1998, 2001; Craig et al., 1989; Mills and Granoff, 1992; Muehlenhard and Linton, 1987; Rapaport and Burkhart, 1984; Wheeler et al., 2002]."

"Calhoun et al. [1997] surveyed 65 young men in a rural community in Georgia who had recently participated in a study of school-aged youth. The average age of participants was 19 and most were Caucasian. Twenty-two percent of these men (n = 14) had perpetrated some type of sexual assault based on their answers to a modified version of the SES; 6.4% had committed an act that met standard legal definitions of completed rape."

" Senn et al. [2000] surveyed a representative sample of 195 men in a small Canadian city. Participants ranged in age from 19 to 82 and most were Caucasian. Using a modified version of the SES, 27% of participants reported committing some type of sexual assault; 7.7% reported committing attempted or completed rape."

"One large noncollege study was conducted with a special population. Merrill et al. [2001] surveyed 7,850 male US navy recruits from three different locations. These men were on average 20 years of age and approximately two-thirds were Caucasian. Using a shortened form of the SES, approximately 11% of these men reported that they had committed an act that met standard legal definitions of rape."

It seems pretty clear that on average, by the time they're in their early twenties, between 6% and 15% of men have admitted to either actively trying to rape a woman, or having committed rape, and nearly 1 in 4 or more have admitted to committing sexual assault.

Is that better?

How many adults are sexually abused?
According to statistic reports in England and Wales, 20% of women (1 in 5) and 4% of men will experience sexual violence in their lifetime. Approximately 85,000 women and 12,000 men experience rape or sexual assault in England and Wales every year which is around 11 sexual offences every hour.
Estimates from the Crime Survey for England and Wales in the year ending March 2022 showed that 2.7% of adults aged 16-59 years experienced sexual assault (including attempted offences) in the previous year.
How many children are sexually abused?
The NCPCC published a child sexual abuse statistics briefing in March 2021. Research with 2,275 young people aged 11-17 about their experience of sexual abuse suggested around 1 in 20 children in the UK have been sexually abused.
According to the latest statistics provided by the charity Rape Crisis, 1 in 6 children has been sexually abused.
What percentage of sexual abusers are male/female?
Although the exact figures are not available, research suggests most perpetrators of sexual abuse are male.

Straw man, and demonstrates a fundamental problem of threads like this as most people can't do numbers or thinking.

In other words, the number of victims =/= number of prepretrators

9 in 10 girls and young women in schools say:
Sexist name-calling and being sent unwanted 'dick pics' or other images of a sexual nature happens to them or other girls and young women their age.

I'm afraid not.

@HelmholtzWatson

How many women are raped or sexually assaulted every year?
739,000*
That's 1 in 30 women. So, probably at leastone woman you know was raped or sexually assaulted in the last 12 months.
*This figure is for the year ending March 2025.

This is inaccurate.

and between 95% and 99% of men do not commit violent or sexual crimes.

So yeah, sucks if you are the woman who happened upon the 1-5 in every 100 men who suck, but that's not a reasonable way to ground your opinion of the other 95-99 in 100.

You are making stuff up now 🤣

1 woman is killed every 5 days by a man in the Uk

30 men were killed by their partner/ex-partner.

That's 1 every 12 days.

That's context. A ratio of about 2:1

If 1 in 4 women will be raped in their life time it can’t be a tiny minority, even accounting for each rapist making multiple rapes.

These stats are meaningless out of context. When the question is effectively "In the 40 years that you've been married, have you ever had penetrative sex with your husband when you didn't really want to", then I'm surprised it's only 25%.
Men of course can't be raped by women by the legal definition.

Headline stats are almost always cherry-picked to support a view.

@CanSeeClearlyNowTheRainHasGone

right now in the Uk there are approximate 35 million women and girls

Approximately 8.9 million of today’s women and girls will be raped by a MAN in their lifetime.

8.9 million rapes.