What is it with some women and weight?

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I also think it’s jealousy and to an extent I get that.

i was really unwell when I gained weight, very high blood pressure, sleep apnea and high cholesterol. I also really disliked my appearance dressing in stretchy black clothes.

If I’d been unable to afford the meds, and I could see people getting them becoming slim, being really healthy, loving their appearance, running round in size ten jeans, as I sat in my size 18s, being unhealth, finding it utterly impossible to stick to a diet, as the sleep apnea left me exhausted beyond belief, I can imagine I’d feel some jealoosy, and resentment, anger even thay others could get them and I couldn’t.

but I do like to think I’d not attack, spread misinformation, pretend to be concerned about long term effects, and try to make people feel bad or worried about taking them, I’d like to think I’d own it, and say I would love these drugs, I’m struggling so much, but I can’t access them,

who knows, I’m fortunately not in that situation, I am on them, and can afford, and been hugely successful, but I’ve never behaved badly as I’m jealous, treated others badly as I’m jealous. But others feel that they can do that, or can’t stop themselves, from the anonymity of their key boards they let it all out, or beyond closed doors.

i think when the price comes down and these become more widely available it will stop, but whilst it’s a have and have not situation, and its over something so enviable, it will continue. The anger will persist.

She told you, the WLI remove some of the superiority complex some women attach to being slim.

How do you explain my obese SIL being upset that my DH has used the jabs to get down to a healthy weight then? Is she just jealous? I suspect this is it. She claims that her views are purely because she's worried about the long-term health consequences, while ignoring the consequences of obesity on his (and presumably her own) health. I was really surprised how angry she seemed when he lost the weight. For him though, it's been amazing. He's got so much more energy and vitality - it's like he got 10 years younger.

I know exactly what you mean. My (now thankfully) exSIL was obsessed with finding out how much I weighed. OK,so I WAS overweight and frequently on some sort of diet,but it used to piss me off the way she kept trying to find out my weight. She'd say so how much do you want to lose? Followed by what's your target weight? Obviously thinking that I wouldn't know that she'd be able to work out my current weight by what I told her!

I'm a millenial and I am still programmed to think I only look good in clothes if I'm skinny, which I'm not, so I never think I look nice in clothes. But I can look at curvy and big women and think they look gorgeous! I have a friend who is bigger and I wish I looked like her in clothes. So, I feel genuinely body positive about others, but have a block when it comes to my own body. Madness.

The people who tend to be obsessed with how much others weigh have their own hang ups.

Your over thinking it.
Have cake - can be about desire to share and not eat food alone. We are social animals we share food hence we eat together.

How did you loose weight - really means - I might try what you've tried it obviously works - loosing weight is a hard thing to do. Lots of people will have tried lots of diets, 5;2 16;8, atkins, slimming world, weight watchers etc etc. If it was easy they'd be one way that works.

Your over thinking it.
Have cake - can be about desire to share and not eat food alone. We are social animals we share food hence we eat together.

How did you loose weight - really means - I might try what you've tried it obviously works - loosing weight is a hard thing to do. Lots of people will have tried lots of diets, 5;2 16;8, atkins, slimming world, weight watchers etc etc. If it was easy they'd be one way that works.

I feel infinitely better, less vulnerable, prouder, more confident, sexier, more fashionable… when I’m lighter. And I’m not overweight, I just mean more of a size 10 than a 12.

My own opinion is that there is such a thing as a healthy weight range, however defined (BMI, body fat% etc). Also my theory, we all know that people in that range look good and we want to look that way. However I believe that due to various factors lifestyle and food quality mean it is very easy to move out of the healthy weight range. So many people want to be healthy but are not hence the the volume of posting.
then you have the side issues like jealousy and undermining etc

Lets not pretend that there aren't aren't health & self-confidence implications. I have gained about 2 stone in a year - probably due to menopause and it has made me utterly miserable. It shouldn't have such an impact on my life but it does & I am aware of the extra weight all of the time.
It is absolutely nothing to do with patriarchy and everything to do with how I feel, physically having to carry this extra weight.

Just the success of the weight loss jabs ,shows how skewed our thinking is in the west.Slim/ Attractive equals "fuckable" .In the eyes of society sadly .Women are conditioned through the years to look as slim as they can .DGM used to lace herself into her corset every morning .Even when she was in her 80s! DM liked her playtex girdle.Now weight loss jabs /diets and so on have taken their place

Patriarchy. Hth.

Because weight is viewed as a moral issue - if you’re slim, you’re disciplined, successful, hard working, intelligent. If you’re fat you’re ill-disciplined, a failure, slovenly, lazy, thick.

Being fit and slim is more than just a health issue. It means the slim and fit person is morally superior to the fat and unfit person. The former only get to where they are through sacrifices that fat people are too morally compromised to make.

Thats why so many women are “against” weight loss injections. Suddenly weight loss and a slim body are easier to achieve, it removes some of the moral superiority. They seek to reassert the moral superiority by suggesting the use of weight loss injections is in itself morally compromised - that fitness and a slim body can only be properly achieved through hard work, and a slim body achieved with no hard work is somehow “lesser”.

Absolutely hard agree, it is nearly all women on women, men can’t be blamed for this, no matter how hard someone twists it.

beinf slim is considered conventionally attractive. And by taking these meds by default women become more conventionally attractive, and some women take real issue with it, they see it as an easy way to achieve what they can’t, as they can’t get the drugs, often due to cost. Or they see it as being able to do it easily when they need to constantly deny themselves.

and as much as well all knew some women competed and attacked other women, it’s taken these meds to see just how ingrained it is.

A lot of the weight obsession is blamed on society and men, yet most of the comments both negative and positive seem to be made to women by women.

I think it's time we all found another topic of conversation.

Sadly my mum's like this. Even at nearly 80 she still likes being very slim. We are trying to get her to put weight on to be healthier, but old habits die hard.
Anyway, just wanted to say my perspective on men, I don't think it's true that men aren't judged on size, it's just subtler. I have worked in so many different roles in many different types of organisations and I can't recall ever having worked for an overweight male boss let alone an obese one, but conversely, I have had had lots of overweight and obese women bosses, including heads of department.
The higher up men go professionally, the more they seem to have to project an image of being at least somewhat athletic. For some reason though, it just isn't noticed or talked about.

It’s women on women, it isn’t men attacking women for losing weight, or using injections, it’s women attacking other women for it, and dressing it up with a head tilt and faux concern.

My take is some women compete against other women and compare themselves. There is a thread going on now, there is one most weeks, where people are throwing hissy fits about weight loss injections and pretending it’s about concern for other women, we all know it’s not.

they are just really fucked up about weight, and become jealous and resentful if they see someone else become slim with what they perceive as an easy way.

it is absolutely dismaying, that they behave like this, but it says more about them than they wish people to know.

I’m of the older generation and my mother was forever battling to stay “trim” in middle age. I feel like I’ve had a lifetime of hearing about waistbands and so now do battle myself . Not to somehow feels completely wrong

It's not a new phenomenon.

I think labelling everything as misogyny lets women off the hook. It’s often intra sexual competition.

Some women don’t like it when other women are slimmer or considered more attractive than them.

It hasn't changed, despite all the supposed advances recently. Just look at how already slim 'stars' have all gone on skinny jabs and are now looking emaciated. The value of women is still in how thin they are. Look at how Posh Spice (who has admitted that she has an eating disorder) is praised for her look (which, to me, is unhealthily thin). There are very few wealthy, powerful women who are anything except thin.